Kashmir sapphire??

[Daisys and Diamonds]

You should send it to a lab. I just sent mine out today to GIA. It only costs $85. Nobody here can tell you anything from photos.

That seems really good value for money
how much did it cost you to unmount it (or was it loose to starr with?)

Good luck for the results
Please come back and tell us

 

[kenny]

Rasztapaszta, you took a moment to "like" my question below, but you didn't answer it.
Why not?
What IS the significance of cleaning in front of a pine forest?

We get lots like you claiming to have a holy-grail super expensive rare gem and posting 10 time more pics than necessary.
Then several posters tell you it can't be identified by pics, and you should take it to a legitimate lab like GIA or AGL.
But instead of sending to a lab the poster ignores multiple such recommendations; instead they just posts more pics.
It's just getting old and tiresome.

You are doing something new though, posting lots of nonsensical gibberish - and spelling it both Kashmir and cashmere was pretty funny.

Are you for real, or am I just feeding a troll?

 

[rasztapaszta]

Don’t get mad, I just put up so many pictures to see if I can get some information here so I don’t have to run an extra lap into a lab with the stone. Because there is simply no meaningful gem laboratory here in Hungary.

 

[kenny]

Don’t get mad, I just put up so many pictures to see if I can get some information here so I don’t have to run an extra lap into a lab with the stone. Because there is simply no meaningful gem laboratory here in Hungary.

It's just that after getting the same advice from 3 or 4 people it's like running circles.
As 3 or 4 more offer the exact same advice the circle just gets bigger.
I'm not mad.
Running in circles can be fun.
And I DO need the exercise, or maybe I'm just part hamster.

So your choices are:
1. To be as sure as possible whether it is natural sapphire and its origin, call to arrange to ship it to American Gem Labs in NY USA.
Their phone number is on their website, https://www.aglgemlab.com
I'd at least call them and explain where you live, and ask them what your options are.
When you call them ask whether it has to be removed from the setting to get their "Premier Report".
Perhaps ask about all their reports. (This may be on their website.)

2. Take a vacation, bring the gem to New York and submit it to AGL in person - of course first check the customs rules of both countries.
GIA would be my second choice in the USA, they are also in New York.

3. Maybe someone here can recommend the most reputable gem lab in Europe for high-level colored gem testing you could travel or shop to.

4. End your search. If travel and shipping is not an option for you stop wasting time asking anyone on the Internet for expertise based on photos.
Any advice you get this way is not reliable, so why bother.
Just enjoy your beautiful family heirloom, and the mystery regarding authenticity and the very remote possibility it is worth a fortune.

BTW, I've been reading Pricescope around 20 years, and I'm familiar with the people giving you advice.
I'd trust them.

 

[Avondale]

Because there is simply no meaningful gem laboratory here in Hungary.

Maybe none that you know of. Sending half-way across the planet isn't always an option. But local labs and gemologists usually aren't famous. Find a reputable pawn shop that deals with jewellery, that buys and sells diamonds and coloured gemstones. Or just a jewellery store. Ask them who they use. They most certainly work with someone to authenticate the pieces they're buying and selling. They can provide you with a reference and contact details.

Also, gemologist are usually well known in local mineralogical museums. Those museums, if well funded, could also support labs of their own.

The thing with gemstones is that a lot can be concluded just by means of careful observation and basic equipment. Some stuff requires specialised equipment that only the bigger, more reputable labs can afford, so there will be limitations. But you can always ask. See what they will be able to tell you and go from there. It might just be sufficient to satisfy your curiosity.

 

[qubitasaurus]

You don't need to send it half way across the planet. To tell whether its synthetic or natural a local lab is probably enough. To be sure about origin or resell at any kind of premium you need a slightly more well recognised lab certificate but you can get one of those in most regions of the world. From Googling labs I can see theres a bunch in europe

The List of Top Gem Labs in The World - 2023

The Directory of Gemological Laboratories(Testing Institutes/Gem Identification Labs) in the World: GIA, IGI, ICA, AGL, Gubelin, SSEF, GIC, NGTC, AIGS, CGL, CDTEC, EGL in London, Dubai, Bangkok, New York... To Find Certificate Pricing List and Report Verification for Precious Gemstones: Ruby...

www.gemtochina.com

The top 5 here are pretty well known, you might not reach them immediately with covid the way it is, but as Bron said it'll make a big difference to the value of the item so it kind of makes sense to just sit on it till you get your opportunity.

 

[CaseyLouLou]

That seems really good value for money
how much did it cost you to unmount it (or was it loose to starr with?)

Good luck for the results
Please come back and tell us

They can actually review it mounted so I sent the whole ring!

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

They can actually review it mounted so I sent the whole ring!

That's awsome
A very well spent $85
Again, good luck with the report

 

[rasztapaszta]

I was now with a relative of us who was a jeweler and he looked at it and he said it was real but not a sapphire but rather a color changing spinel in his opinion. He showed me an interesting test, which I was amazed to know, I did a test again and I did the test again at home, but tomorrow I will take him to an expert.
Have you ever encountered a similar trait?
It became positively charged with rubbing, attracting a piece of paper and the other test we put the ring on a sponge bed and held a very strong magnet in front of it pretty slowly attracted me.
these are useful checks?

 

[rasztapaszta]

Unfortunately, I can't post anything about the video

 

[VividRed]

I was now with a relative of us who was a jeweler and he looked at it and he said it was real but not a sapphire but rather a color changing spinel in his opinion. He showed me an interesting test, which I was amazed to know, I did a test again and I did the test again at home, but tomorrow I will take him to an expert.
Have you ever encountered a similar trait?
It became positively charged with rubbing, attracting a piece of paper and the other test we put the ring on a sponge bed and held a very strong magnet in front of it pretty slowly attracted me.
these are useful checks?

No

 

[rasztapaszta]

Hiiiipppphiiiiipppp hurraaaaa real sapphire!!!!!!☺☺☺