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soontobe2013

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Hey everyone! Been lurking for a bit and like most lurkers decided to come outta hiding as I'm looking for an e-ring. I was originally going to go thru BN but started poking around on the internet and saw some unflattering comments. I haven't ruled them out just wish they had images of their diamonds and not some perfect stock photo. Anyway, opinions on the best site would be appreciated. (BN, WF, BG)

On to the good part. my budget is about 7k I don't really wanna go over that (diamond and setting). I prefer the simple setting but she wants pave. I would rather spend more on the diamond and upgrade the setting later. I would like to get something around a carat, min color H, preferably VS2. Do you think this is realistic with my budget or no? Any help would be greatly appreciated to get me started.
 
Why VS2?? I think your budget is much more doable if you drop down in clarity...I mean who is really going to care if you can see an inclusion with a 10x loup or not. You will find the majority of PSers would rather go big on size, or higher in color, but are more then willing to drop down in clarity to eye clean Si1.

What shape are we going for? I'm assuming RB?
 
Yeah RB, nothing is set in those specs but price and min color. Problem was how can I be sure I'm getting eye clean if the site doesn't have the images?
 
not impossible, but you might have more look going with an I than an H. I would shop JA. itll be hard to have a H&A stone, but a regular GIA ex with an HCA les sthan 2 or an AGS 0 would work.
here is one for an I, it scores exactly a 2 but GIA rounds numbers so might be with putting a hold on, unless you find better ones. They let you hold up to 3 woithout a charge and they will give you idealscope images and tell you if they are eye clean
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1545752.asp (keep in mind they will give you a Pricescope discount)


and here is the link for the HCA, you look at the GIA report for the numbers
https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/14k-white-gold-scroll-basket-pave-set-diamond-engagement-ring.html
they have lovely settings, but the pictures dont do them justice :)

ETA: thats why you want to shop places with pictures. ALso when you pull a diamond the people will tell you if it is eyeclean
 
I guess I'm just a bit hesitant with someone else who is selling me a diamond telling me it's eye clean. It doesn't affect them in the slightest to push a diamond with visible inclusions. This is my main concern as I'm reading that most of these sites don't have the diamonds on site so their reps are in fact just calling someone else. The customer for the most part can always return it just kinda a hassle. I guess this is why my original thought is to stay in the VS range as apposed to the SI.
 
Well they call them in and review then themselves. And they are reputable dealers that would make there business off gold online reviews. So I don't think that's an issue. But if your concerned go to an I. Still considered near colorless and you can get a ct in vs2
 
Have you looked at the Blue line over at Brian Gavin?
Also a well liked pretty inexpensive pave setting is the Legato Sleek Pave at whiteflash.
 
soontobe2013|1356983872|3343824 said:
Yeah RB, nothing is set in those specs but price and min color. Problem was how can I be sure I'm getting eye clean if the site doesn't have the images?
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Hi,
This is why I'd only buy a diamond from a vendor who has it on site, such as WF or BGD. I wouldn't be entirely opposed to BN except I recently bought a pair of colored stone studs from them and the stones didn't match. It really turned me off to them. If I can't trust them for a little purchase (under $150), then how can I trust them for a bigger one.

The SI stones I bought from WF were amazing. They did veryify the stones were eye clean since the stones were on-hand.
 
Nm wrong link.

I think I'm going to scrap the pave idea and go for a simple setting that I can upgrade later. This is alot harder than I thought. Reading through all the knowledge on here is driving me nuts. I almost wish I was completely uneducated on the subject of the 4 C's and HCA! :errrr:
 
Now that I can see the diamonds under JA's little microscope now I'm hesitant to pull the trigger. I know it won't be that visible in person but still. Ahhhhhh. Tough decisions.
 
soontobe2013|1357255581|3346744 said:
Now that I can see the diamonds under JA's little microscope now I'm hesitant to pull the trigger. I know it won't be that visible in person but still. Ahhhhhh. Tough decisions.
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Well, two things. They have an on staff gemologist who will tell you if it's eye clean. And they have a 60 day return policy. Also, if you like any of them PUT THEM ON HOLD ASAP!
 
i wouldnt spend this kind of money on something you can get pictures and a light performance pic on.

Imagine buying a car without seeing it or any info on how it runs
 
soontobe2013|1357254276|3346723 said:
Nm wrong link.

I think I'm going to scrap the pave idea and go for a simple setting that I can upgrade later. This is alot harder than I thought. Reading through all the knowledge on here is driving me nuts. I almost wish I was completely uneducated on the subject of the 4 C's and HCA! :errrr:
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I hope you don't mind my asking about your SO's expectations. You said that she's mentioned that she really wants pave, but is she actually flexible regarding that aspect? I understand balancing the budget & all of that, it's just that if she has her heart set on an ering w/ pave, she'll be disappointed if the ring doesn't have that.

Also, is your SO color sensitive? If so you shouldn't go below H because that's where a lot of folks start seeing tint (G is even safer but more expensive). I'm concerned that if she's color sensitive & prefers a ring w/ pave, and you present her with a ring that has an 'I' center stone in a plain setting, her face may not light up as much as you hope when she sees the ring. And you're spending a lot of money to just have her smile & say "that's nice", you know?
 
Roxy|1357638418|3350115 said:
soontobe2013|1357254276|3346723 said:
Nm wrong link.

I think I'm going to scrap the pave idea and go for a simple setting that I can upgrade later. This is alot harder than I thought. Reading through all the knowledge on here is driving me nuts. I almost wish I was completely uneducated on the subject of the 4 C's and HCA! :errrr:
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I hope you don't mind my asking about your SO's expectations. You said that she's mentioned that she really wants pave, but is she actually flexible regarding that aspect? I understand balancing the budget & all of that, it's just that if she has her heart set on an ering w/ pave, she'll be disappointed if the ring doesn't have that.

Also, is your SO color sensitive? If so you shouldn't go below H because that's where a lot of folks start seeing tint (G is even safer but more expensive). I'm concerned that if she's color sensitive & prefers a ring w/ pave, and you present her with a ring that has an 'I' center stone in a plain setting, her face may not light up as much as you hope when she sees the ring. And you're spending a lot of money to just have her smile & say "that's nice", you know?
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Evwn if she is color sensitive you dont havr to go with a. G, h is still very colorless in a round. And I truly dont think the average person would have any problem with an I. The average diamond in a mall store is usually at least that or lower. I woyldnt be worried at all about it. I think the average woman is more concerned about size than minute color differences. I wouldn't reccomend a k, but I think you are very safe with an I.
Also I think a plain setting is ok but if you know her priorities. If she needs a big stone- its a lot cheaper to buy a temp setting and upgrade in a year than to upgrade the stone. But if her first priority is the whole look, than get some pave :)

Also depending on your relationship and whatnot, you might want to buy a plain one and let her help pick out and pay for the setting (you will be married and all- sharing finances) some people are uncomfortable with that. But I had a house and a child with my FI before were engaged- so in my situation I helped pick out and pay for the ring. It was our shared finances, anyways- and I got exactly the setting I was. looking for.. but again it depends on each relationship
 
nielseel|1357647739|3350167 said:
Roxy|1357638418|3350115 said:
soontobe2013|1357254276|3346723 said:
Nm wrong link.

I think I'm going to scrap the pave idea and go for a simple setting that I can upgrade later. This is alot harder than I thought. Reading through all the knowledge on here is driving me nuts. I almost wish I was completely uneducated on the subject of the 4 C's and HCA! :errrr:
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I hope you don't mind my asking about your SO's expectations. You said that she's mentioned that she really wants pave, but is she actually flexible regarding that aspect? I understand balancing the budget & all of that, it's just that if she has her heart set on an ering w/ pave, she'll be disappointed if the ring doesn't have that.

Also, is your SO color sensitive? If so you shouldn't go below H because that's where a lot of folks start seeing tint (G is even safer but more expensive). I'm concerned that if she's color sensitive & prefers a ring w/ pave, and you present her with a ring that has an 'I' center stone in a plain setting, her face may not light up as much as you hope when she sees the ring. And you're spending a lot of money to just have her smile & say "that's nice", you know?
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Evwn if she is color sensitive you dont havr to go with a. G, h is still very colorless in a round. And I truly dont think the average person would have any problem with an I. The average diamond in a mall store is usually at least that or lower. I woyldnt be worried at all about it. I think the average woman is more concerned about size than minute color differences. I wouldn't reccomend a k, but I think you are very safe with an I.
Also I think a plain setting is ok but if you know her priorities. If she needs a big stone- its a lot cheaper to buy a temp setting and upgrade in a year than to upgrade the stone. But if her first priority is the whole look, than get some pave :)

Also depending on your relationship and whatnot, you might want to buy a plain one and let her help pick out and pay for the setting (you will be married and all- sharing finances) some people are uncomfortable with that. But I had a house and a child with my FI before were engaged- so in my situation I helped pick out and pay for the ring. It was our shared finances, anyways- and I got exactly the setting I was. looking for.. but again it depends on each relationship
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Nielseel I understand & appreciate what you're saying, which is why I was asking the OP about his SO specifically. WRT color, some notice and some don't, just as some people like warmer stones while others do not. So I was just asking the OP if he knows what "side" his SO falls on regarding color sensitivity.

I also understand your point about having a plain band now & upgrading later. You mentioned upgrading in a year, which I think is absolutely reasonable, but the OP didn't mention a timeframe for the upgrade. So again I think the important point is that his SO knows what's going on "up front" so that neither of them are blindsided. ;))
 
Roxy|1357696471|3350844 said:
nielseel|1357647739|3350167 said:
Roxy|1357638418|3350115 said:
soontobe2013|1357254276|3346723 said:
Nm wrong link.

I think I'm going to scrap the pave idea and go for a simple setting that I can upgrade later. This is alot harder than I thought. Reading through all the knowledge on here is driving me nuts. I almost wish I was completely uneducated on the subject of the 4 C's and HCA! :errrr:
Click to expand...
I hope you don't mind my asking about your SO's expectations. You said that she's mentioned that she really wants pave, but is she actually flexible regarding that aspect? I understand balancing the budget & all of that, it's just that if she has her heart set on an ering w/ pave, she'll be disappointed if the ring doesn't have that.

Also, is your SO color sensitive? If so you shouldn't go below H because that's where a lot of folks start seeing tint (G is even safer but more expensive). I'm concerned that if she's color sensitive & prefers a ring w/ pave, and you present her with a ring that has an 'I' center stone in a plain setting, her face may not light up as much as you hope when she sees the ring. And you're spending a lot of money to just have her smile & say "that's nice", you know?
Click to expand...

Evwn if she is color sensitive you dont havr to go with a. G, h is still very colorless in a round. And I truly dont think the average person would have any problem with an I. The average diamond in a mall store is usually at least that or lower. I woyldnt be worried at all about it. I think the average woman is more concerned about size than minute color differences. I wouldn't reccomend a k, but I think you are very safe with an I.
Also I think a plain setting is ok but if you know her priorities. If she needs a big stone- its a lot cheaper to buy a temp setting and upgrade in a year than to upgrade the stone. But if her first priority is the whole look, than get some pave :)

Also depending on your relationship and whatnot, you might want to buy a plain one and let her help pick out and pay for the setting (you will be married and all- sharing finances) some people are uncomfortable with that. But I had a house and a child with my FI before were engaged- so in my situation I helped pick out and pay for the ring. It was our shared finances, anyways- and I got exactly the setting I was. looking for.. but again it depends on each relationship
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Nielseel I understand & appreciate what you're saying, which is why I was asking the OP about his SO specifically. WRT color, some notice and some don't, just as some people like warmer stones while others do not. So I was just asking the OP if he knows what "side" his SO falls on regarding color sensitivity.

I also understand your point about having a plain band now & upgrading later. You mentioned upgrading in a year, which I think is absolutely reasonable, but the OP didn't mention a timeframe for the upgrade. So again I think the important point is that his SO knows what's going on "up front" so that neither of them are blindsided. ;))
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Agreed. I just didnt want to scare the OP with the color choices he is looking at. I havent ever heard anyone say there H shows too much color in a RB, and I also have heard people say that can see it in an I but everyone i hear with it says its a very sight concession for such a price difference. And sense he didnt give a time frame - i just wanted to throw out a few option in case he hadnt considered them yet. Thats all. Not saying your advise wasnt helpful, I just think we on PS are so aware of color difference, that its easy to forget the average diamond out in the world today is not a G or even an H :)
 
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