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Date: 5/10/2008 11:58:36 PM
Author: monarch64
A good online resource for researching used vehicles is Consumer Reports. I can''t remember if they are a .com or a .org.

Anyway, you can get detailed yearly reports regarding reliability of each make and model. Edwards.com is another site that does pretty much the same thing. Good luck with your search! And good for you for being a responsible consumer!
monarch: great idea about Consumer Reports. I used to subscribe...guess I need to again, huh? I didn''t know about Edwards so I''ll check into that. You know, I didn''t think about being a responsible consumer (I assume you mean because I plan to get a used car) I figured it would save me money and, right now, we have a plan to get out of debt so I am looking at every penny.
 
Date: 5/11/2008 12:02:09 AM
Author: scarleta
you may want to ask a good car repair place or a mechanic.Often people will approach them if they know a buyer for their car.If you know a good one you may be able to also get a history of the car..
scarleta: great idea...I didn''t even think of this...thanks!
 
Date: 5/11/2008 12:05:30 AM
Author: rockzilla
Toyota toyota toyota.

Edited: I bought a 1995 Camry in 2004 for $5k with over 100,000 miles on it. Four years later I have had no issues - just regular maintenance!
rockzilla: I saw several cars at CarMax online (figured I''d check out some place with lots of options to see what was out there and get an idea of prices) and I was shocked to see cars with over 100,000 miles and priced between $6k and $10k. I thought with so many miles the prices would be much, much lower. I guess your situation proves a good car can go well beyond the 100,000 mile mark and would be well worth the $5k you paid. I only hope I get so lucky with my next car. I''m putting Toyota on the list! Thanks!
 
Someone mentioned that japanese cars are more expensive to fix - I disagree. Toyotas (and hondas as well) are very common and a lot of mechanics work with them, so you have more competition there. Also, since there is a large market, many manufacturers make replacement parts (in the case that you ever need any...)

I have a friend who bought a used Audi and has been cursing it ever since. Looks great, but has caused him so many headaches because every part is imported from Europe.
 
Date: 5/11/2008 2:24:56 AM
Author: brazen_irish_hussy
Consumer reports is your best bet. They are the best in the business. I looked, hondas are their recomendation. They last the longest, have the highest resale value, the lowest repair costs and the fewest need for repairs.

I have known many people with hondas and their nicer models, acuras, and those cars last longer than any other cars I have ever seen.
brazen: Thank you for looking! I figured Hondas would be at the top. I have had two Hondas in the past, both CRXs, you know--those little two seaters with a flattened rear end--they don''t make them anymore but I absolutely loved them...I flipped one when I ran over a patch of ice on Christmas Eve, total loss of course, someone else hit me in the rear, also total loss. I didn''t get to drive them long enough to see if I would have problems....lol
 
One more thing - my best friend drove a ''93 camry in HS...I was with her when the guy flipped over to 200k miles...we sang a little celebratory song...

She passed it on to her younger brother and he''s still driving it 4-5 years later...
 
Date: 5/11/2008 9:54:55 AM
Author: rockzilla
Why the 2005 year limit? You guys are right, it is going to be difficult to keep it under $12k for a full size like a camry - a corolla would be no problem though. The corrolla has gotten bigger over the years though, so its not like its tiny...

Just wondering if there is something specific about that year, or if it just an arbitrary ''mind clean'' kind of thing...
I''m not sure but 2005 just "felt" right...if that makes sense. I guess I was trying to get at least a 5 year newer car and I figured I may get one with less miles if it was only 3 years old, too. I realize it may be hard to do with $12k
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Date: 5/11/2008 1:39:04 PM
Author: movie zombie
february, 2007 i bought a honda accord 2-door coup with 146,000 miles on it.......for $4000. found it on craig''s list. i love love love this car. especially at the price. my husband has a 1993 honda accord that has about 250,000 miles on it. obviously, we''re not into car payments and/or newer cars.

movie zombie
movie: did you not worry about buying a car with so many miles on it? even for $4k i would think it would break down on me before i got a mile from where i bought it. we don''t like car payments, either, so maybe i''m thinking about this the wrong way...maybe i should consider more mileage on a car such as a honda that is considered to be so reliable. looks like both you and rockzilla are proving high mileage doesn''t necessarily mean bad car. i''m glad you love your car, that''s great!
 
I bought an ''05 Corolla in the fall of ''04, brand new, for just over your budget. I love Toyotas and I don''t think I''ll ever have a reason to change. I also looked at the Scion and I just didn''t like the look. price wise, they were only $1 off. Weird. I looked at a Civic the same day but it looked TOO basic. The Corolla was so much nicer and the price was right, so I went with it.
 
Date: 5/11/2008 11:25:25 PM
Author: tevyk
yay, a topic I can actually offer advice on instead of begging the advice of others! :)

too funny, i feel like this a lot...most of the time i feel i can only contribute the "nice ring" comments and not much else.

I agree with the recommendations of going with Honda or Toyota *especially* for a used car. Their reliability track record is awesome. And when Hondas have abnormal problems (ie, the transmissions on 2001 Honda Accords), they extend the warranty [I just got my transmission replaced completely free under a 7-year, 100k mile warranty that they extended free on all 2001 Accords from the standard 3-year 36k mile warranty that was long expired]

A bit over a year ago, I had a similar budget to buy a car. If you look for a private party used car on craigslist or something, you can often get a pretty good deal on a 3-4 year old Honda or Toyota. In late 2006, I bought a reasonably equipped 2001 Accord in great condition with only ~40k miles for $10,500 -- right at blue book value. I personally think you might be better off going another 2 years back and looking for something with lower miles, since I don''t imagine you''d find a 2005 Honda/Toyota for under $12k unless .
You''re probably right.

Storm''s suggestion of a new Hyundai is actually a great idea -- I believe they offer a 10 year/100k powertrain warranty standard on most/all new cars, and 5-year bumper-to-bumper. Their reliability isn''t as good as the nice Japanese cars, but IIRC consumer reports said they had equal or fewer problems as most domestic cars. These comments all apply to Kia as well.
That does sound like a great warranty but Hyundai is still such a new name to me--i was curious as to how many folks would mention it.

And you''re much more likely to get good financing (0-5%) buying a new car than you are used. My credit score was over 700 when I bought my car, and I couldn''t get a loan under 8% (which is going to cost me almost $2k in interest over its 3-year term).
This is something I am struggling with, too--higher rates for used cars. last time i checked my score it was high 700s so i thought i would qualify for the best rate which still may be higher than i want to pay.
 
Date: 5/12/2008 8:46:34 AM
Author: Sabine
I just went through a very similar situation when my 1994 chevy cavalier was about to die. My dad is a mechanic, and he knew I wanted a small car with great gas mileage that would be reliable, and my budget was right around yours. His first choice for me was the Toyota Corolla, but I couldn''t find anything with less than 75,000 miles for that price, which is not what I wanted. He then widened my choices to a Honda Civic, a Hyndai (sp?), and a Nissan Sentra. I ended up getting a 2006 Sentra with about 30,000 miles for less than your budget. I''ve had it for close to a year now, and I haven''t had a single problem with it, plus it does get great gas mileage!
Now THAT sounds like a great deal! --newer car, low miles, small price tag, no problems...you have just renewed my hope!!
Maybe your Dad would be willing to shop for a fellow Pricescoper?
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Date: 5/12/2008 6:40:03 PM
Author: rockzilla
Someone mentioned that japanese cars are more expensive to fix - I disagree. Toyotas (and hondas as well) are very common and a lot of mechanics work with them, so you have more competition there. Also, since there is a large market, many manufacturers make replacement parts (in the case that you ever need any...)

I have a friend who bought a used Audi and has been cursing it ever since. Looks great, but has caused him so many headaches because every part is imported from Europe.
rockzilla: i have heard this, as well, but i have seen more shops specializing in japanese car repairs, too, so you may have a point about the competition bringing down the price....good news since it sounds like Honda is in the lead!
 
Date: 5/12/2008 6:44:34 PM
Author: rockzilla
One more thing - my best friend drove a ''93 camry in HS...I was with her when the guy flipped over to 200k miles...we sang a little celebratory song...

She passed it on to her younger brother and he''s still driving it 4-5 years later...
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Are you serious?! I have never had this kind of luck. That''s fabulous!! So the brother still has it?..OMG! I wonder how many miles are on it now?
 
I want to say Thank You for all the responses! This is valuable information and honest opinions that I will use to help me make the decision. I''ll cross my fingers for the autos we have to last 10 more years but i know better....it''s just a matter of time...so many, many thanks for the responses. I will be much better prepared when the time comes.
 
no, i didn''t worry. i''ve been driving for many years and my dad was very mechanical....although i am not! however, i can feel how a car responds and i can hear it. i''ve never been burned buying a used car. i took this one to my mechanic afterwards.....but you can always do a sale contingent upon your mechanic checking it out first. i worked with a woman that claimed to get over 400K miles on her honda before she got rid of it. my hubby has over 250k miles on his and he isn''t the best as regards taking care of it. its older so its going to have some things that will need to be done over time. but i''ve now got over 160k miles on it and i wouldn''t trade it for another vehicle. it does what i want when i want.

with a honda, change the oil on a regular basis and if newer do the recommended checkups, etc. but with one as old as mine, i change the oil on a regular basis and have a tuneup about once a year. my mechanic is excellent and doesn''t recommend doing things to it unless its necessary.

i bought the car and took it immediately to my mechanic who checked it out and changed the oil. i did have to buy a new battery and i put a new set of tires on it. and because i plan to keep the car for awhile, i sprung for new shocks about a month later: but that was not really necessary and my choice.

our third vehicle is a 1995 ford f-150 also bought used with 75K miiles........and i love Big Red! again, test drove her and paid for her. took her to be checked out the next day and have had no major problems with her either.

movie zombie

ps i will admit that my mechanic had a lexus coupe for sale some time back that i was lusting for........but i really do love my accord enough not to spend the extra $ even on a used lexus.
 
Date: 5/12/2008 6:28:03 PM
Author: dianne


Date: 5/10/2008 11:58:36 PM
Author: monarch64
A good online resource for researching used vehicles is Consumer Reports. I can't remember if they are a .com or a .org.

Anyway, you can get detailed yearly reports regarding reliability of each make and model. Edwards.com is another site that does pretty much the same thing. Good luck with your search! And good for you for being a responsible consumer!
monarch: great idea about Consumer Reports. I used to subscribe...guess I need to again, huh? I didn't know about Edwards so I'll check into that. You know, I didn't think about being a responsible consumer (I assume you mean because I plan to get a used car) I figured it would save me money and, right now, we have a plan to get out of debt so I am looking at every penny.
Yup, that is what I meant. Sticking to a budget, getting something reliable and letting someone else take the hit on the depreciation of a new car, and finding something that is great on gas mileage are all money savers and you can still have a nice looking set of wheels if you play your cards right. Also, I think Scarleta mentioned that if you buy from a private seller make sure to take the car to your own mechanic first to have an inspection done, especially if the seller hasn't kept all their records of maintenance on the vehicle. (Actually, try to buy from a seller who has kept all their records and has proof that the car was maintained--i.e. oil changes, tire rotation, etc. if possible.)

ETA: Edmunds.com is the other site besides CR, sorry!
 
Toyota or Honda all the way...
Both of these companies not only make reliable vehicles, but they are both at the top of the list of auto makers on www.betterworldshopper.org or .com. Which means that you can feel good as a consumer about supporting a company that deserves your money. Nobody ranks as high as Toyota, but they are a hard act to follow.

The Scion, although funky looking, is only $15 for a brand spanking new one.

Good Luck!! I also found that reading the book titled "Don''t Get Taken Every Time" was the most value ever. I learned all the tricks of the trade and was able to get a vehicle at far less than the sticker price. My return on investment for that book was a gazillion fold.
 
Date: 5/12/2008 11:35:57 PM
Author: monarch64

Date: 5/12/2008 6:28:03 PM
Author: dianne



Date: 5/10/2008 11:58:36 PM
Author: monarch64
A good online resource for researching used vehicles is Consumer Reports. I can''t remember if they are a .com or a .org.

Anyway, you can get detailed yearly reports regarding reliability of each make and model. Edwards.com is another site that does pretty much the same thing. Good luck with your search! And good for you for being a responsible consumer!
monarch: great idea about Consumer Reports. I used to subscribe...guess I need to again, huh? I didn''t know about Edwards so I''ll check into that. You know, I didn''t think about being a responsible consumer (I assume you mean because I plan to get a used car) I figured it would save me money and, right now, we have a plan to get out of debt so I am looking at every penny.
Yup, that is what I meant. Sticking to a budget, getting something reliable and letting someone else take the hit on the depreciation of a new car, and finding something that is great on gas mileage are all money savers and you can still have a nice looking set of wheels if you play your cards right. Also, I think Scarleta mentioned that if you buy from a private seller make sure to take the car to your own mechanic first to have an inspection done, especially if the seller hasn''t kept all their records of maintenance on the vehicle. (Actually, try to buy from a seller who has kept all their records and has proof that the car was maintained--i.e. oil changes, tire rotation, etc. if possible.)

ETA: Edmunds.com is the other site besides CR, sorry!
Now, Edmunds I have heard of...and used...and forgot about it...thanks for the reminder!
 
Date: 5/12/2008 11:52:56 PM
Author: miraclesrule
Toyota or Honda all the way...
Both of these companies not only make reliable vehicles, but they are both at the top of the list of auto makers on www.betterworldshopper.org or .com. Which means that you can feel good as a consumer about supporting a company that deserves your money. Nobody ranks as high as Toyota, but they are a hard act to follow.

The Scion, although funky looking, is only $15 for a brand spanking new one.

Good Luck!! I also found that reading the book titled ''Don''t Get Taken Every Time'' was the most value ever. I learned all the tricks of the trade and was able to get a vehicle at far less than the sticker price. My return on investment for that book was a gazillion fold.
There''s a book? Oh, I would love to read this one...I''m checking Amazon to see if they have it. Thanks for the link, too!
 
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