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Supracrx

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I have been looking for an engagement ring last few weeks and trying to decide which stone I want. Have shop at three different jewelers all recommended by close friends so I do trust them. I'm leaning towards this one particular.

Round
1.O1 carat
G-vvs2

Measurements: 6.22 - 6.29 x 4.03 mm
Polish excellent
Symmetry good
Cut very good

Depth 64.4
Table 57%
Crown angle 37.5
Pavilion angle 40.6
Pavilion depth 43
Star length 50
Lower half 80%
Thin to thick

It is GIA certified. I'm debating that and a .93 round with D color vs2. Don't have specs but is a excellent cut.
The 1.01, I'm only worried because of the very good cut. I would rather buy something with better quality and better shine. The difference in the 1.01 and .93 is about $700...what do you'd think?
 
Supracrx|1358373691|3357192 said:
I have been looking for an engagement ring last few weeks and trying to decide which stone I want. Have shop at three different jewelers all recommended by close friends so I do trust them. I'm leaning towards this one particular.

Round
1.O1 carat
G-vvs2

Measurements: 6.22 - 6.29 x 4.03 mm
Polish excellent
Symmetry good
Cut very good


Depth 64.4
Table 57%
Crown angle 37.5
Pavilion angle 40.6
Pavilion depth 43
Star length 50
Lower half 80%
Thin to thick

It is GIA certified. I'm debating that and a .93 round with D color vs2. Don't have specs but is a excellent cut.
The 1.01, I'm only worried because of the very good cut. I would rather buy something with better quality and better shine. The difference in the 1.01 and .93 is about $700...what do you'd think?

Garbage!!! I'm sorry, but this stone is terrible!! It's way too deep and you should ever consider buying something with "good" symmetry!!! What's your budget? We can find you something that's *ideal* cut and will beyond out perform that stone! I realize that friends have an impact on where you shop, but diamonds is not something I'd take a recommendation for unless they can get you a true hearts and arrow stone for the best price. Just out of curiosity...what are they asking for?

** and, I wouldn't pay for a VVS2...I'd stick with SI1 or VS2 but you don't need to go up so high in clarity unless money grows on trees for you.

can you get more information on the .93 stone? it sounds better, but still hard to tell without more info. do you have pictures?
 
6500. The reason i posted was because I thought it was too deep. I haven't seen in person yet.

Budget for entire ring is 9000-10000. I like to stay close to 9000.

The .93 I did see and it was beautiful stone. I just didn't get the dimensions.

I thought ring shopping was easy but it's harder than buying a car
 
Supracrx|1358373691|3357192 said:
I have been looking for an engagement ring last few weeks and trying to decide which stone I want. Have shop at three different jewelers all recommended by close friends so I do trust them. I'm leaning towards this one particular.

Round
1.O1 carat
G-vvs2

Measurements: 6.22 - 6.29 x 4.03 mm
Polish excellent
Symmetry good
Cut very good

Depth 64.4
Table 57%
Crown angle 37.5
Pavilion angle 40.6
Pavilion depth 43
Star length 50
Lower half 80%
Thin to thick

It is GIA certified. I'm debating that and a .93 round with D color vs2. Don't have specs but is a excellent cut.
The 1.01, I'm only worried because of the very good cut. I would rather buy something with better quality and better shine. The difference in the 1.01 and .93 is about $700...what do you'd think?

Oh, gosh. I may be repeating a lot of what is in the post above mine, but here goes.

Cut needs to be excellent. This stone is too deep and faces up like a .90 stone. A well cut 1 ct stone should be 6.4-6.5mm. You'd be paying for a stone that looks smaller than 1 ct. In addition, "good" symmetry is not acceptable. I only consider excellent for symmetry but very good on polish can be okay. Thick girdle is not acceptable...again, makes stone face up smaller when weight is hiding in the girdle.

You need the GIA report on the .93 stone and we'll be happy to look at it. I am just going to tell you from my own experience, my nice local jewelers just did not have any selection of excellent cut stones. Nice people, but overpriced mediocre diamonds. I would not spend thousands on anything but an excellent cut diamond.
 
Seriously, diamond shopping is not all that hard if you limit your search to GIA Excellent cut only (or AGS Ideal cut, which are not as commonly found in local jewelers).
 
Supracrx|1358374237|3357202 said:
6500. The reason i posted was because I thought it was too deep. I haven't seen in person yet.

Budget for entire ring is 9000-10000. I like to stay close to 9000.

The .93 I did see and it was beautiful stone. I just didn't get the dimensions.

I thought ring shopping was easy but it's harder than buying a car

It will last you a lot longer than a car too!! I'll snoop around and see what I can find you, and others will too. But are you open to our suggestions? We will always find you the absolute best for your budget. No commissions or up charges here!

Do you already have a setting? If so, how much is it? If not, what are you looking for? Side diamonds, three stone? Solitaire? ( i recommend the last one so you can get the best diamond for your budget and upgrade the setting later. This will also score brownie points). If you already have a setting, just let us know how much it is so we know what your budget for the stone is.
 
It is fine if you want to buy locally, but you can ask them to call in excellent cut stones for you. You will probably pay more for the diamond than you would from an online vendor, but that is fine if you prefer to buy locally.
 
I have a few more stones with reports when I get home.

I don't mind buying online but because this lady has helped me searched for diamonds for the last two weeks I would like to purchase from her and she has the setting already that my girlfriend wants.

6 prong , round cathedral, pave with diamonds halfway on the band. 2mm thick band. Ring itself will be around 1000
 
Supracrx|1358375639|3357230 said:
I have a few more stones with reports when I get home.

I don't mind buying online but because this lady has helped me searched for diamonds for the last two weeks I would like to purchase from her and she has the setting already that my girlfriend wants.

6 prong , round cathedral, pave with diamonds halfway on the band. 2mm thick band. Ring itself will be around 1000

If they can't get any stones in with ideal specs, would they be willing to set a stone you get from elsewhere in the ring setting from them? That's what I ended up doing. Bought the setting at a jeweler we had been working with but absolutely got the stone from elsewhere.

The specs on the one you posted, as you can tell from the reaction are pretty bad. I'm not sure if the SA in stores just don't get the importance of cut quality since they all still seem to be stuck in the previous few decades on sales pitch (color + clarity= shiney....NOT!)
or if they are banking on people not knowing or caring. I just don't know, but I'd familiarize yourself with what ideal cut specs look like and request stones that fit those parameters to look at. There's no need to look at VVS2 stones unless you are a stickler for clarity, an eye clean SI1 generally will do the trick. Color again is a personal choice, G, H and sometimes I or J will work for many people. It depends on your color sensitivity.

Here are Diamondseeker's tips from a previous thread:

Choose GIA Excellent cut or AGS Ideal cut ONLY. Don't consider anything else. Some GIA EX's are better than others.

Always look at diameter.

Stay close to these measurement ranges:

Table: 54-58

Depth: 60.0-62.3

Crown angle: 34-35

Pavilion angle: 40.6-41.0

girdle: thin, medium, slightly thick (or combo of two of those)
 
Supracrx|1358373691|3357192 said:
I have been looking for an engagement ring last few weeks and trying to decide which stone I want. Have shop at three different jewelers all recommended by close friends so I do trust them. I'm leaning towards this one particular.

Round
1.O1 carat
G-vvs2

Measurements: 6.22 - 6.29 x 4.03 mm
Polish excellent
Symmetry good
Cut very good

Depth 64.4
Table 57%
Crown angle 37.5
Pavilion angle 40.6
Pavilion depth 43
Star length 50
Lower half 80%
Thin to thick

It is GIA certified. I'm debating that and a .93 round with D color vs2. Don't have specs but is a excellent cut.
The 1.01, I'm only worried because of the very good cut. I would rather buy something with better quality and better shine. The difference in the 1.01 and .93 is about $700...what do you'd think?

Check the diameter of the 1.01 versus the .93 and you will probably find they are close. That's how much weight is hiding in the depth of the 1.01 that you can't see visually.
 
I will going to back to store sometime next few days to look at a few diamonds again in person.

You guys actually helped a lot already. With the ones that I been emailing with, all the stones they gave me either gave good, or very good on symentry and not to my liking.
The orginal place I went to is my friends mom so I will have more questions for her this time.

If you guys can find me a diamond, I am more than willing to purchase online and have them set it.

Any opinions would be great. I don't even know where to begin or what to look for online.
 
Well, at least you are giving them a chance and we can also post stone stones for you to compare. I'll look after we eat!
 
The diamond you are looking to purchase is almost the same mm as a .90ct. If you are ok with a Good - Very good cut, you should still try looking for a diamond which has 59-62 depth. You would be getting more for your money. All the best!
 
Sorry was busy and took some time off from looking at diamonds. Found another locally at a decent price. What do you guys think?


Measurements: 6.44 - 6.49 x 3.92 mm
Carat Weight: 1.01 carat
Color Grade: G
Clarity Grade: VS1
Cut Grade: Excellent
Proportions
Depth: 60.6%
Table: 61%
Crown Angle: 32.5°
Crown Height: 12.5%
Pavilion Angle: 41.4°
Pavilion Depth: 44.0%
Star Length: 55%
Lower Half: 80%
Finish
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Very Good
Fluorescence: None
 
I would pass on this one... It is a difficult combo to get right. Even under best case scenario with the rounding, HCA doesn't like it very much.
 
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