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emoster

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Hello! I've gone through the beginners thread and the list of recommended vendors, but am very new to the world of gemstones!

I was trying to find an untreated, yellowish-green, durable stone for my engagement ring and have landed on chrysoberyl! Now I'm trying to figure out what to look for in chrysoberyl, so was hoping someone please could provide some input or education re: the stones below, especially regarding price. OR if you've happened to come across any chrysoberyl recently and wouldn't mind sharing (or have any other input about green stones for e-rings!), I would appreciate that too ;)2 Thank you for your help, let me know if there's any other info I can provide!

Stone 1, $2,800
2.94 Carat
Lively Yellow Green
Medium Dark 60
Lightly Included

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Stone 2, ~$2,300
2.26 Carat
Electric Lime Yellow
Medium 50
Free of Inclusions

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A bit pricey for chrysoberyl. Have the prices gone up thst dramaticalky?
 
T L said:
A bit pricey for chrysoberyl. Have the prices gone up thst dramaticalky?
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That's what I was wondering too, but I haven't found too many to compare yet so wasn't sure!
 
I like your choices, but agree that the prices seem high. Here’s a nice looking stone from a seller others here have purchased from, but you might be looking for more green.

www.etsy.com

3.00cts Gorgeous Natural Good Luster Chrysoberyl - Etsy

This Gemstones item by CDGEMSTONE has 78 favorites from Etsy shoppers. Ships from Canada. Listed on Jul 20, 2024
www.etsy.com www.etsy.com
 

Buy Natural Loose Chrysoberyls Gemstones at AJS Gems

See our stock in fine natural chrysoberyl gemstones from Tanzania.
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I've never purchased from them, but I think some other posters here may have. They have a 30% off "going out of business" sale too.
 
I got a lovely chrysoberyl from Adamant International. I can not say enough good things about Ivan. He's based in Sri Lanka and an amazing communicator. His stones are small-ish. His niche seems to be precision or near-precision recuts of promising "local" stones. He has lots of "non-ideal" hues but all have plenty of eye-appeal. I don't know if he will have a 3-ct. Mine is 4-ish and a very pretty orangey-brown.

I think chrysoberyl is a great stone for a ring.

EDIT: anything except diamond is iffy for an e-ring, I now feel. Even a well-mounted corundum gets pretty abraded over the first decade (ask me how I know).
 
Avondale said:
Again? How many times are these guys going to go out of business?
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Apparently until 3/15 then they're closing for good this time:lol-2::P2
 
LilAlex said:
I got a lovely chrysoberyl from Adamant International. I can not say enough good things about Ivan. He's based in Sri Lanka and an amazing communicator. His stones are small-ish. His niche seems to be precision or near-precision recuts of promising "local" stones. He has lots of "non-ideal" hues but all have plenty of eye-appeal. I don't know if he will have a 3-ct. Mine is 4-ish and a very pretty orangey-brown.

I think chrysoberyl is a great stone for a ring.

EDIT: anything except diamond is iffy for an e-ring, I now feel. Even a well-mounted corundum gets pretty abraded over the first decade (ask me how I know).
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I agree with stone hardness for a ring. Unless it is seldom worn and always babies while being worn it is going to abrade. I have a ring with three sapphires in it that I very rarely wear but have had for about ten years. Even yet, the main sapphire in that ring is abrading
 
The above two Chrysoberyl’s are way overpriced (they are full retail), even at 30% off (edit: I see that these are not, but if they were). For that kind of money, you can find greener to green neon Chrysoberyl that size and bigger which is more expensive than greenish yellow on the internet.

Please look around some more. Google green chrysoberyl. Esty search it and e bay search it. If you are on Facebook or Instagram search for it.
 
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lovedogs said:
That vendor (from the original pics) is consistently overpriced. I would find a different vendor
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Thank you, that's the kind of info I'm looking for!
 
LilAlex said:
I got a lovely chrysoberyl from Adamant International. I can not say enough good things about Ivan. He's based in Sri Lanka and an amazing communicator. His stones are small-ish. His niche seems to be precision or near-precision recuts of promising "local" stones. He has lots of "non-ideal" hues but all have plenty of eye-appeal. I don't know if he will have a 3-ct. Mine is 4-ish and a very pretty orangey-brown.

I think chrysoberyl is a great stone for a ring.

EDIT: anything except diamond is iffy for an e-ring, I now feel. Even a well-mounted corundum gets pretty abraded over the first decade (ask me how I know).
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Uh oh, really? That's concerning... I do also like canary diamonds, but haven't really done any research on them yet...
 
musicloveranthony said:
I agree with stone hardness for a ring. Unless it is seldom worn and always babies while being worn it is going to abrade. I have a ring with three sapphires in it that I very rarely wear but have had for about ten years. Even yet, the main sapphire in that ring is abrading
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Yikes, thank you for the heads up. Sounds like I may need to explore alternatives as I don't want to have to worry about babying my ring toooo much...
 
fredflintstone said:
The above two Chrysoberyl’s are way overpriced (they are full retail), even at 30% off (edit: I see that these are not, but if they were). For that kind of money, you can find greener to green neon Chrysoberyl that size and bigger which is more expensive than greenish yellow on the internet.

Please look around some more. Google green chrysoberyl. Esty search it and e bay search it. If you are on Facebook or Instagram search for it.
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Thank you, that's what I needed to know! I will keep looking at different options. I found a few on Etsy but the shops mostly had very few reviews, etc. I'll keep searching and will try ebay and Instagram next.

Also good to know about the green vs greenish yellow comparison, thanks.
 
emoster said:
Thank you, that's what I needed to know! I will keep looking at different options. I found a few on Etsy but the shops mostly had very few reviews, etc. I'll keep searching and will try ebay and Instagram next.

Also good to know about the green vs greenish yellow comparison, thanks.
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If any shop has more than twenty good reviews on Esty and e bay it is worth checking out and making contact. You can always ask about them here. There are many of the same vendors that sell on Esty, e bay, but also sell on Facebook and Instagram. I know just from some of my gemstone dealer friends (I used to be a gemstone dealer myself for four decades) will sell a lot more on Facebook and Instagram because they are no being hit with 12% to 15% commissions that Esty and e bay charge and can sell cheaper on those platforms.
 
Welcome to the forum, OP, and good luck with your chryso hunt!! It's a beloved stone 'round these here parts.
 
fredflintstone said:
If any shop has more than twenty good reviews on Esty and e bay it is worth checking out and making contact. You can always ask about them here. There are many of the same vendors that sell on Esty, e bay, but also sell on Facebook and Instagram. I know just from some of my gemstone dealer friends (I used to be a gemstone dealer myself for four decades) will sell a lot more on Facebook and Instagram because they are no being hit with 12% to 15% commissions that Esty and e bay charge and can sell cheaper on those platforms.
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That makes a lot of sense, I didn't think about the etsy commission. Thank you for your insight :))
 
@emoster I wouldn't get too scared about a chrysoberyl e-ring. It also depends on how long you'd be wearing your engagement ring. For example, while I love my corundum e-ring, which I wore for 3.5 years before I got married and have not incurred any eye-visible abrasions on, I have stopped wearing it in favor of just wearing the wedding band after marriage. If you would just stop wearing the e-ring after marriage, and especially if your engagement to marriage wait time is shorter than mine, I think a chrysoberyl engagement ring will hold up just fine.

@LilAlex how do you know? It's storytime!
 
Also, @emoster, I don't know how you feel about natural gem vs man-made gem. There is a material called YAG that has a hardness of 9.5 and comes in between corundum and diamond in hardness. I don't own any, but it's very pretty and is reputed to come in many, many colors. If you're not averse to man-made gem material, you can reach out to Gary at Finewater Gems or Gene at Precision Gem, as they have experience with the material and can give you more accurate info regarding pricing. My guess is that YAG would be the same or a cheaper price, and precision cut, will look stunning!
 
voce said:
@LilAlex how do you know? It's storytime!
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Oh I was being dramatic -- it's not such a great story!

Got my wife a right-hand ring before I even knew there was a name for these things. It was maybe 15+ years ago. We had come across this all-original Deco one with a 3-ct unheated Ceylon sapphire flanked by bullet-shaped diamonds that she fell in love with. It was "expensive" at the time -- but an almost laughable bargain in retrospect. She wore it day-in, day-out for 10+ years until a prong broke. It was her "signature" piece of jewelry in our household but I don't think anyone else ever noticed it (it's pretty petite). I knew it was accumulating some abrasions and it's a fragile design to begin with -- but the jeweler was just horrified at the damage to the sapphire. I know I've posted this quote here before but he said something to the effect of: "It survived 100 years in near-perfect condition until you!" He really loves jewelry and jewelry history.

At the time of the prong re-tipping, he urged us to have the stone polished ("It hasn't been out of this mounting in 100 years!"). Don't get me wrong; he is a wonderful guy. But my wife was so shamed and stricken by the whole thing that she will not wear the ring. It's "too precious" now. It's not over-the-top by PS standards and she bought a few inexpensive rings to wear "in rotation" with it but this one floated back to the safe deposit box.

This is an "after" photo, worn backwards on one of my fingers:

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The color IRL is lighter and brighter than shown. The polishing -- which I was sort of opposed to but eventually succumbed to some vendor arm-twisting -- dropped it just below 3 ct (strike one) and we both think it lost a tiny bit of its amazing glow (our only glowy stone, so strike two). And I think the new and over-large prongs were designed with protection and not elegance in mind (strike three, I guess). And it rounded the contour from an almost-octagon to an oval-y cushion... But, I think it's still our kids' favorite and most iconic piece of "Mom jewelry."

It did lead me to completely re-think the permanence and "generational" quality of jewelry and I no longer browse with the great, great grandchildren in mind!
 
@LilAlex that's still a beautiful ring! I guess the secret to me not having damage to my rings is that I don't subject any of them to daily wear. I guess it helps greatly that I have about 100 gemstone rings, so even if I were to wear one daily (I don't), none of them would see more than 3 days in a year of wear. Maybe royal jewels stay pristine for the same reason that any one of the pieces isn't worn all the time, as there are a great number of pieces in the collection to rotate.
 
My mom’s ering diamond has two enormous chunks taken out of it and she broke the side diamond baguette in half. Even diamonds can get damaged if you are hard on your rings. Sapphires are prone to facet abrasion if worn a lot, so ALL gemstone rings must be taken care of, and not to be worn when doing chores, sleeping, or any activity where it can be damaged easily. Diamonds are not scratch-able, but they can chip.
 
YAG is a nice material for a gem stone. It's hardness is actually 8.5 so just under that of a sapphire, but the refractive index is higher at 1.8 vs 1.76 for sapphire and it has nice dispersion. In the rough, it's actually one of the more expensive materials, significantly more expensive than flame fusion sapphire, but less than pulled Czochralski sapphire and hydrothermal emerald, which is the most expensive.
 
Is there a certain carat weight or face-up dimensions you are seeking?

Are you open to preloved?

It's possible PSers may have a loose chrysoberyl they're ready to part with but haven't listed yet, perhaps a glowy greenish yellow square cushion-cut chryso facing up 6.5mm ...
 
I remember seeing YAG as 9.5 hardness from somewhere. Oops, that 9.5 must've been a typo on another website. At 8.5 it would be at the same hardness as chrysoberyl. So then the trade-off would be getting a natural chrysoberyl with a poorer cut vs a perfect precision-cut YAG.
 
voce said:
@emoster I wouldn't get too scared about a chrysoberyl e-ring. It also depends on how long you'd be wearing your engagement ring. For example, while I love my corundum e-ring, which I wore for 3.5 years before I got married and have not incurred any eye-visible abrasions on, I have stopped wearing it in favor of just wearing the wedding band after marriage. If you would just stop wearing the e-ring after marriage, and especially if your engagement to marriage wait time is shorter than mine, I think a chrysoberyl engagement ring will hold up just fine.

@LilAlex how do you know? It's storytime!
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Hadn't even considered that, great point! Our engagement will probably be pretty short, but I'm planning on continuing to wear whatever it ends up being every day for hopefully a long time :)
 
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