More pics and setting dilemma

[pinkprashu]

So as you all may know I have recently purchased but still evaluating a 2.6 ct J SI2 GIA triple EX diamond. I have more pics of diamond with my ACA. The more I see/evaluate the diamond, the more I like it. Honestly, I am not a stickler for color or clarity as long as the diamond is beautiful to look at. I cannot see inclusions with my naked eye(at least) and the diamond has the same amount of tint as my 1.3 ct J SI1 ACA and that never bothered me. I am taking it to an appraiser and will make a decision after I evaluate further this week. But I am starting to think about a setting. I originally wanted to change the head of my current setting to fit the new diamond but I am not opposed to going with a simpler solitaire setting. Is there a setting that you would recommend?

Also do you think it will look good in the old setting?

Here are some photos of the new diamond --

 

[pinkprashu]

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[04diamond<3]

I've always loved this setting:

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/grace-18k-white-gold-5414w18

 

[vr4_rider]

Wow! Just wanted to stop in and say that's a beauty.

May I ask how you got your first pic to display the arrows so nicely? The 2.6 isn't a true Hearts and Arrows is it?

 

[Laila619]

I really love that new diamond. I honestly cannot see a difference between it and your ACA. I would go with a simple 6 prong solitaire to make it pop even more. Maybe the Vatche U113 like Bliss? IDJ carries Vatche.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3-98-rb-in-vatche-u113-thanks-to-idj.184808/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3-98-rb-in-vatche-u113-thanks-to-idj.184808/[/URL]

 

[lambskin]

I would set in with two tapered baguettes in plat.

 

[Niel]

For a diamond that size id pick a simplle split prong cathedral solitaire
https://www.artofplatinum.com/vault/princess-round-diamond-ultra-slim-solitaire-engagement-ring

 

[Niel]

I would set in with two tapered baguettes in plat.

Oh i like that idea too, or some side pears

 

[junebug17]

I think the new stone is gorgeous FWIW and I can't see any discernible difference between it and the ACA. I love the look of large diamonds like this in a solitaire setting. I like Laila's suggestion!

 

[donnabrsd]

I would recommend to keep your current setting but change the head to a 6 prong.

I think your new diamond is beautiful!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Obviously I am biased because I am one of the ones with the Vatche U 113. But I would advise against the BG Grace because blue iris had that setting and had to change to the Vatche because it was too low to wear diamond wedding bands with it.

The other nice solitaire that comes to mind is the Vatche Caroline. But reusing the current setting is fine, too.

 

[pinkprashu]

Obviously I am biased because I am one of the ones with the Vatche U 113. But I would advise against the BG Grace because blue iris had that setting and had to change to the Vatche because it was too low to wear diamond wedding bands with it.

The other nice solitaire that comes to mind is the Vatche Caroline. But reusing the current setting is fine, too.

I am thinking about the Vatche U 113 as well. I have to find your topic with the Vatche setting.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Here is mine but there are several people with larger stones who have it.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/new-1-58-g-vs1-from-gog-in-vatche-u-113-tiffany-repro.171351/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/new-1-58-g-vs1-from-gog-in-vatche-u-113-tiffany-repro.171351/[/URL]

 

[JaneSmith]

I would recommend to keep your current setting but change the head to a 6 prong.

I think your new diamond is beautiful!

I agree. I love your current setting and new honker! Are you looking for a plain shank this time and going for a completely different look? I do like a plain shank solitaire with a big fat eternity wedding ring.

 

[pinkprashu]

Wow! Just wanted to stop in and say that's a beauty.

May I ask how you got your first pic to display the arrows so nicely? The 2.6 isn't a true Hearts and Arrows is it?

Thanks. According to James Allen it is a True Hearts and Arrows diamond where I first spotted it. But according to Yssie and DS, I don't think it is a hearts and arrows diamond. I believe you can still see arrows in diamonds that don't have hearts or perfect hearts. Hearts is a side affect of perfect symmetry I think.

 

[04diamond<3]

Wow! Just wanted to stop in and say that's a beauty.

May I ask how you got your first pic to display the arrows so nicely? The 2.6 isn't a true Hearts and Arrows is it?

Thanks. According to James Allen it is a True Hearts and Arrows diamond where I first spotted it. But according to Yssie and DS, I don't think it is a hearts and arrows diamond. I believe you can still see arrows in diamonds that don't have hearts or perfect hearts. Hearts is a side affect of perfect symmetry I think.

I'd really take advice on here with a grain of salt because they're just opinions. Unless they tell you they're experts like Karl and Rhino who have such info on their signatures, they're just like the rest of us and have just made more posts than some of us, but that doesn't make them experts. The way to tell if your stone is H&A is if the certificate says it is. Personally, I trust what JA says more than anyone on this site (other than gemologists like Karl etc). Just because it isn't AGS graded with the premium of that type of stone doesn't mean it's not a hearts and arrows stone. Not saying this to be offensive, but I'd really stick to what gemologists and certificates say.

 

[pinkprashu]

I really love that new diamond. I honestly cannot see a difference between it and your ACA. I would go with a simple 6 prong solitaire to make it pop even more. Maybe the Vatche U113 like Bliss? IDJ carries Vatche.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3-98-rb-in-vatche-u113-thanks-to-idj.184808/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/3-98-rb-in-vatche-u113-thanks-to-idj.184808/[/URL]

Thanks for saying that. I feel the same way about the ACA and the new diamond. I am asking IDJ to price the U113 for me.

 

[yssie]

Wow! Just wanted to stop in and say that's a beauty.

May I ask how you got your first pic to display the arrows so nicely? The 2.6 isn't a true Hearts and Arrows is it?

Thanks. According to James Allen it is a True Hearts and Arrows diamond where I first spotted it. But according to Yssie and DS, I don't think it is a hearts and arrows diamond. I believe you can still see arrows in diamonds that don't have hearts or perfect hearts. Hearts is a side affect of perfect symmetry I think.

I'd really take advice on here with a grain of salt because they're just opinions. Unless they tell you they're experts like Karl and Rhino who have such info on their signatures, they're just like the rest of us and have just made more posts than some of us, but that doesn't make them experts. The way to tell if your stone is H&A is if the certificate says it is. Personally, I trust what JA says more than anyone on this site (other than gemologists like Karl etc). Just because it isn't AGS graded with the premium of that type of stone doesn't mean it's not a hearts and arrows stone. Not saying this to be offensive, but I'd really stick to what gemologists and certificates say.

AGSL grading has nothing to do with H&A - neither GIA nor AGSL considers optical symmetry in cut grading at all, and neither says anything about it on the report. HRD has a H&A report and they've published the requirements. EGL USA also has a H&A report but I think most, including tradepeople, would advise caution and real-world confirmation.

H&A is not a matter of opinion - it either is, by a given definition, or it isn't. I don't claim to be an expert but I am confident that this stone is not by WF's definition, which is why I said that sans disclaimers. That does NOT mean that it's not a beautiful stone or that it's not a good choice for Pink - my own stone is a "near-H&A" and I adore it, and have confirmed that to my eyes the fact that it doesn't exhibit perfect radial optical symmetry has no real-world effect on light return in any type of lighting.


Pink You sound like you love it IRL but you're still looking for reasons not to... if having the ACA that MGR noted in your other thread shipped out isn't an option, is there a Jared anywhere near you? If so I'd recommend taking it in and comparing it with some Hearts on Fire stones - hopefully they have a couple that are a bit closer in size than your ACA. I do think it's important that you get an opportunity to compare IRL - not because I think you'll veto it once you do or anything, but because I think when you're spending 20k it's really important that you reassure yourself of how much you love it - make it "mind clean" as well as "eye clean"!


Edited. Don't care for the wrath of the PS grammarians, probably still missed a few but I tried

 

[Christina...]

Wow! Just wanted to stop in and say that's a beauty.

May I ask how you got your first pic to display the arrows so nicely? The 2.6 isn't a true Hearts and Arrows is it?

Thanks. According to James Allen it is a True Hearts and Arrows diamond where I first spotted it. But according to Yssie and DS, I don't think it is a hearts and arrows diamond. I believe you can still see arrows in diamonds that don't have hearts or perfect hearts. Hearts is a side affect of perfect symmetry I think.

I'd really take advice on here with a grain of salt because they're just opinions. Unless they tell you they're experts like Karl and Rhino who have such info on their signatures, they're just like the rest of us and have just made more posts than some of us, but that doesn't make them experts. The way to tell if your stone is H&A is if the certificate says it is. Personally, I trust what JA says more than anyone on this site (other than gemologists like Karl etc). Just because it isn't AGS graded with the premium of that type of stone doesn't mean it's not a hearts and arrows stone. Not saying this to be offensive, but I'd really stick to what gemologists and certificates say.

AGSL grading has nothing to do with H&A - neither GIA nor AGSL consider optical symmetry in cut grading at all, and neither say anything about it on the report. HRD has a H&A report and they've published the requirements. EGL USA also has a H&A report but I think most, including tradepeople, would advise caution and real-world confirmation.

H&A is not a matter of opinion - it either is, by a given definition, or it isn't. I don't claim to be an expert but I am confident that this stone is not by WF's definition, which is why I said that sans disclaimers. That does NOT mean that it's not a beautiful stone or that it's not a good choice for Pink - my own stone is a "near-H&A" and I adore it, and have confirmed that to my eyes the fact that it doesn't exhibit perfect radial optical symmetry has no real-world effect on light return in any type of lighting.


Pink You sound like you love it IRL but you're still looking for reasons not to... if having the ACA that MGR noted in your other thread shipped out isn't an option, is there a Jared anywhere near you? If so I'd recommend taking it in and comparing it with some Hearts on Fire stones - hopefully they have a couple that are a bit closer in size than your ACA. I do think it's important that you get an opportunity to compare IRL - not because I think you'll veto it once you do or anything, but because I think when you're spending 20k it's really important that you reassure yourself of how much you love it - make it "mind clean" as well as "eye clean"!

100% agree. This is a consumer forum so most of us here are not experts, though many of us have taken the time to educate ourselves and do not tend to randomly give out technical advice without first having done some research.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

To be honest, if I had the choice of taking a random GIA jeweler or Yssie diamond shopping with me, it wouldn't be a hard decision at all! I am quite confident that Yssie knows more about diamonds than most jewelers (not counting ones like we know here that specialize in top cut diamonds, of course).

 

[SMC]

I think your diamond is lovely! If I were you, I'd go for a plain shank without diamonds on it so all the focus would be on the diamond. I think a 6 prong would be lovely. I've also read that bezel-type settings might help mask the diamond color a little (I am not sure if this is true) - and I'm also partial to bezels, especially Sholdt's semi-bezel. You can find elle chris's ring here (she has a 2.5 ct H&A diamond): [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-sholdt-semi-bezel.93098/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-sholdt-semi-bezel.93098/..[/URL].