Multicolor gems ?

[Tropicmaster]

Anybody purchased from them? Good, bad, indifferent? Their prices seem awfully good.

 

[LD]

Superb! I''ve bought about 10 gemstones from them now (including one they re-cut for me). I''d highly recommend them. You do however get for what you pay for with them - their top end gems are superb, the lower end can be native cuts.

David Weinberg is my contact there and he always takes time to answer questions.

 

[colormyworld]

Date: 10/7/2008 5:57:54 PM
Author: LovingDiamonds
Superb! I've bought about 10 gemstones from them now (including one they re-cut for me). I'd highly recommend them. You do however get for what you pay for with them - their top end gems are superb, the lower end can be native cuts.

David Weinberg is my contact there and he always takes time to answer questions.

Tropicmaster, I have bought a few stones from multicolour and have been pleased each time.

LovingDiamonds can you please explain what you mean when you say, "the lower end can be native cuts".

 

[LD]

Date: 10/7/2008 6:14:24 PM
Author: colormyworld

Date: 10/7/2008 5:57:54 PM
Author: LovingDiamonds
Superb! I've bought about 10 gemstones from them now (including one they re-cut for me). I'd highly recommend them. You do however get for what you pay for with them - their top end gems are superb, the lower end can be native cuts.

David Weinberg is my contact there and he always takes time to answer questions.

Tropicmaster, I have bought a few stones from multicolour and have been pleased each time.

LovingDiamonds can you please explain what you mean when you say, 'the lower end can be native cuts'.

Some of their gemstones are priced very reasonably for a reason. The reason may be that the cut is less than perfect. I must stress however that Multicolour generally has lovely gemstones and David will always be honest and will give you an opinion of the gemstone overall and will tell you if he thinks the cut is not perfect - of course, the price may also be to do with clarity, colour etc., a whole host of reasons!

The great thing about Multicolour is that they normally have a large range of gemstones in each category so you can compare price and carat weight. For example, if they have a 3ct gemstone (say a Ruby) selling at the same price as a 1.5ct Ruby, you'll know that Multicolour have assessed the 1.5ct as the better gemstone all round. All in all, you can get a good "feel" for what is in your price range.

Hope that helps?

 

[colormyworld]

So your saying all native cuts are poorly cut stones? For some reason I thought it simply meant that the stone was cut in the country it was found in.

I have never seen a perfectly cut gem stone before. Perhaps you can post a pictue?

As far as prices at Multicolour. I am pretty sure that the order the stones are listed is the order the were placed in in stock. Also as far as I know Multicolour does not as a habit raise thier prices after placed in stock. As such the longer in inventory the older the price. Some of his prices are like going back in time.

 

[Pandora II]

Date: 10/7/2008 6:47:51 PM
Author: colormyworld
So your saying all native cuts are poorly cut stones? For some reason I thought it simply meant that the stone was cut in the country it was found in.

I have never seen a perfectly cut gem stone before. Perhaps you can post a pictue?

One of these days I''m going to post some pictures of some of my ''cut in the country of origin'' stones and ask people to tell me which bits are cut poorly - cos I''m still looking and I have a damn good loupe!

 

[Harriet]

Date: 10/7/2008 6:47:51 PM
Author: colormyworld
So your saying all native cuts are poorly cut stones? For some reason I thought it simply meant that the stone was cut in the country it was found in.

I have never seen a perfectly cut gem stone before. Perhaps you can post a pictue?

As far as prices at Multicolour. I am pretty sure that the order the stones are listed is the order the were placed in in stock. Also as far as I know Multicolour does not as a habit raise thier prices after placed in stock. As such the longer in inventory the older the price. Some of his prices are like going back in time.

As did I. I guess I have a collection of poorly cut stones then.

 

[colormyworld]

As do I Harriet. I ''ll take my poorly cut stones over most of the designer cuts though. I will gladly scrimp a little on cutting to get that super rich color!

Gray, and brown, brown and gray plese oh please won''t you stay away. If I see much more I think I''ll drown,drown,drown.

 

[LD]

Quite frankly I find your response incredibly offensive. The term native cut is not meant to be derrogatory to any country at all.

The term is used openly in the gemstone trade in the UK to describe a poorly cut stone (irrespective of where it was cut). I have well cut and badly cut gemstones in my collection and I don''t distinguish where they''ve been mined or cut. Perhaps you should speak with Safeguard who are members of the Birmingham Assay Office and tell them that they''re being derogatory as they use this term too!

I was trying to be helpful to the original poster and if all you can do is be rude then I find that incredulous.

 

[Pandora II]

Date: 10/8/2008 9:00:58 AM
Author: LovingDiamonds
Quite frankly I find your response incredibly offensive. The term native cut is not meant to be derrogatory to any country at all.

The term is used openly in the gemstone trade in the UK to describe a poorly cut stone (irrespective of where it was cut). I have well cut and badly cut gemstones in my collection and I don''t distinguish where they''ve been mined or cut. Perhaps you should speak with Safeguard who are members of the Birmingham Assay Office and tell them that they''re being derogatory as they use this term too!

I was trying to be helpful to the original poster and if all you can do is be rude then I find that incredulous.

Certainly isn''t where I come from.

 

[LD]

Date: 10/8/2008 11:38:02 AM
Author: Pandora II

Date: 10/8/2008 9:00:58 AM
Author: LovingDiamonds
Quite frankly I find your response incredibly offensive. The term native cut is not meant to be derrogatory to any country at all.

The term is used openly in the gemstone trade in the UK to describe a poorly cut stone (irrespective of where it was cut). I have well cut and badly cut gemstones in my collection and I don''t distinguish where they''ve been mined or cut. Perhaps you should speak with Safeguard who are members of the Birmingham Assay Office and tell them that they''re being derogatory as they use this term too!

I was trying to be helpful to the original poster and if all you can do is be rude then I find that incredulous.

Certainly isn''t where I come from.

Then we will agree to differ.

May I suggest you simply type in Google search "native cut gemstones". You will see that this term is used on gemstone dealer''s websites; mineralminers, faceters.com, gemsociety.org, africagems.com, khazargems.com etc etc etc. It is not used in a disparaging tone but more as a descriptor. I understand you personally don''t like this term but it IS an accepted one.

Whilst I appreciate your comments and will respect your wishes not to use this terminology on this forum again, I don''t think that the correct way to discuss a subject such as this is to attack a fellow forum member. Forums are for discussions. Not a space to launch personal opinions that attempt to undermine or shame others.

 

[Harriet]

LovingDiamonds,
I am unsure as to who you are addressing, but I do not see any "personal attack" on this thread. To the extent that there is an attack, it is on the use of a term. If I have offended you personally, I apologise.

 

[Pandora II]

Date: 10/8/2008 1:52:49 PM
Author: LovingDiamonds

Then we will agree to differ.

May I suggest you simply type in Google search ''native cut gemstones''. You will see that this term is used on gemstone dealer''s websites; mineralminers, faceters.com, gemsociety.org, africagems.com, khazargems.com etc etc etc. It is not used in a disparaging tone but more as a descriptor. I understand you personally don''t like this term but it IS an accepted one.

Whilst I appreciate your comments and will respect your wishes not to use this terminology on this forum again, I don''t think that the correct way to discuss a subject such as this is to attack a fellow forum member. Forums are for discussions. Not a space to launch personal opinions that attempt to undermine or shame others.

There is nothing wrong with using the term ''native cut'' - the problem comes when the term is used incorrectly as it has rather often on PS recently. I buy many stones labelled as ''native cuts'' - as opposed to cut by that particular dealer or US cutters used by that dealer.

In the case of Sri Lankan gems, I assume they are cut there unless otherwise stated.

I don''t believe that I attacked or even mentioned any particular forum member in any of my posts. I don''t apologise or feel I need to apologise for anything I wrote - I stand by every word.

One of the main reasons I posted my feelings on the issue was to prevent people who are coming here to acquire knowledge from picking up the WRONG interpretation of a commonly used term.

 

[LD]

I didn''t expect an apology and haven''t asked for one. I don''t propose to discuss this any further however, if you think that accusing me of using racist terminology isn''t offensive then, quite frankly, I find that incredulous! I wonder how you''d feel if you were accused of posting something racist? I''m quite sure you''d feel as outraged as I do. You don''t have to name people to personally attack them as quoting them does the job just as well.

Finally, you will also see that at NO point did I ever associate the term "native" with the origin of a gemstone so you have completely and utterly taken my comments out of context and inserted your own connotation whilst quoting me. Whilst you may want to educate people who are new to the world of gemstones, please don''t do it at my expense.