Need Advice on Diamond Inclusions!

[sunlee]

Hi All,

I've been reading forums on the site that have been extremely helpful and now I have a question of my own. We've narrowed down our search and need some advice about diamond inclusions.

Which inclusions are the best/worst: pinpoint, needle, cloud, crystal?

Here are the three diamonds we are considering:

Diamond 1:
1.25 F VS1 - HCA 1.5 ex ex ex very good
Con: Crystal dead center on table.

Diamond 2:
1.20 F VVS2 - HCA 1.3 ex ex ex very good
Con: Needle on table, cloud on side very close to table.

Diamond 3:
1.37 F VVS2 - HCA 1.7 very good ex very good ex
Con: Pinpoint on table, needle on side, and one pinpoint on the pavilion.

I have also attached the reference diagrams of all three diamonds for your view.

Based on these specs, which diamond would you recommend purchasing?

I appreciate any feedback, thanks so much!

 

[Dancing Fire]

IMO...it doesn't matter the type of inclusions when your buying a high clarity VVS stone.

 

[Ravinmad]

If you could get idealscope images, asets, and a price for each stone it might assist everyone in trying to help you out.

 

[sunlee]

I have attached the idealscope images for Diamond 2 & 3. Currently in the process of getting the idealscope image for Diamond 1.

Here is more info:

Diamond 1 - $14,330
Shape: Round
Carat weight: 1.25
Cut: Excellent
Color: F
Clarity: VS1
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 61.6%
Table: 56.0%
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Girdle: Thin to medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 6.93*6.95*4.28

Diamond 2 - $15,360
Shape: Round
Carat weight: 1.20
Cut: Excellent
Color: F
Clarity: VVS2
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 61.7%
Table: 56.0%
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Girdle: Thin to medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 6.85*6.82*4.21

Diamond 3 - $17, 330
Shape: Round
Carat weight: 1.37
Cut: Excellent
Color: F
Clarity: VVS2
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 60.3%
Table: 58.0%
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Girdle: Thin to medium
Culet:
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 7.20*7.22*4.35

Thanks for all of your help!

 

[toblerone]

Of the two idealscope pics, #2 looks the best. There is more light leakage on the table of #3.

Any reason why you need to choose a stone with a clarity grade that high? You can get some perfectly eye-clean VS2 and SI1 stones that will either save you a bunch of cash or let you increase the size.

 

[Amys Bling]

I'm interested in seeing the first image before I weigh in

 

[yssie]

Thritto, inclusion type makes absolutely no difference re visibility/structural soundness/effect on light return at such high clarities


https://myapps.gia.edu/ReportCheckPortal/getReportData.do?&reportno=2116577562&weight=1.37
No from me - super shallow crown + thin girdle = unnecessary chipping risk IMO esp since stone isn't very large
super shallow crown + painting = even less contrast than it'd otherwise have, and that already takes a hit

 

[Dancing Fire]

Of the two idealscope pics, #2 looks the best. There is more light leakage on the table of #3.

Any reason why you need to choose a stone with a clarity grade that high? You can get some perfectly eye-clean VS2 and SI1 stones that will either save you a bunch of cash or let you increase the size.

b/c most Chinese people prefer high color and clarity..

 

[ame]

I pass on #3 bec of the 58% table right off the bat. That #2 IS is nice.

 

[sunlee]

Thanks for the quick and informative responses everyone! I really appreciate it.

I've eliminated Diamond #3 based on the feedback...

What do you guys think about the inclusions on these diamonds, since these are lower clarity?

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1453579.asp
HCA .8 exexexverygood

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1442631.aspd-Diamond-1430379.asp
HCA .9 exexexverygood

 

[Amys Bling]

Typically you don't need to worry about inclusions on VS stones- just confirm they are eyeclean

 

[sunlee]

here is the idealscope image for Diamond 1