Need expert views on these 2 items ..price per carat

[everyoneluvsgems]

Hi everyone,

Would appreciate if anyone can advise me on these two items, a red Spinel weighing 3.1ct (origin should be Myanmar) and a bluish green 7.32ct Zoisite.

Are they worth to collect? Does anyone know their per carat price? Thank you in advance

 

[Edward Bristol]

I am not sure it is safe to download files like that. Anyone knows? Why not post pictures?

 

[everyoneluvsgems]

Hi Edward,

Thks for the feedback.
I have tried to copy n paste the pics from my PDF files but I am not sure how to do....it would be great if you can advise. Thks

 

[chrono]

Do you have actual pictures of these items?
Have you seen these in person?
Often times, lab report pictures aren't the best, therefore trying to estimate price per carat will be far from accurate. When evaluating gems, colour sets the price so buying solely by looking at the lab memo is inadvisable.

 

[everyoneluvsgems]

Hi Chrono,

Thank you for the kind gesture of putting the pics on your post...much appreciated.

I am getting a friend to help me take nice and clear photos of these two gems,. I will post them once they are ready.

On a side note, I have searched many websites that have fancy zoisites....It' is rare to find any that is >6 carats in weight. Is it considered rare? I wasn't able to check the price per carat as these sites require a trader background to qualify for membership.

Cheers

 

[everyoneluvsgems]

Hi all,

We have managed to take a few photos of th gems, please pardon us if the photos are not up to standards as we are laymen in terms of photography. We have selected the best photos that we think it good to present for viewing.

Kindly provide any comments . Thank you

I have tried to copy & paste the photos so that it is conveinent for everyone to view them instantly rather than having to download the photos. But i was unsuccessful doing it.

Can anyone advise how to go about pasting photos? Thank you

Cheers

 

[chrono]

To attach pictures;
Post a reply, then click the tab that says "Upload Attachment" further down the page.
Where it says "Filename" click "Browse." From here, go to your own files to navigate to wherever you store your picture.
Double click on the photo you want to upload. The path should appear in the "Filename" blank.
Click "Add the file." Your photo's title will appear under the area where you write.
Click Submit when you're done writing.

 

[everyoneluvsgems]

Thks Chrono! once again..

I will try out the next time when i post with photos.

Are the photos good enough for you to comment on the quality of the gems? Are they worth collecting? any idea to gauge their proce per carat? Thks

Cheers

 

[JewelFreak]

The spinel looks very dark to me. Have you looked at it under low light? Does it black out? I'd expect it to. It's a slightly wonky shape too. I wouldn't buy it myself, but it's whether you like it that matters. It's not a "collector's piece" if that's what you're looking for. I don't know enough about fancy zoisite to advise.

--- Laurie

 

[chrono]

What is your definition of collector's piece? The spinel is not something I would purchase and keep long term personally due to the colouration; it looks brownish orangish on my monitor and is likely to extinct something fierce. As for the green zoisite, is it heated or untreated? I am guessing it isn't because the tri-chroicsm seems strong and "intact". I am not well versed on fancy coloured zoisite but I think of it as blue tanzanite cut with the green part oriented as the table.

 

[minousbijoux]

For what its worth, if the photos are accurate, neither one would appeal to me. Definitely not anything I would consider worth collecting (though lately, people seem more and more interested in unheated Zoisite). Neither appears to have very good saturation and the spinel appears overly dark.

 

[everyoneluvsgems]

Hi Laurie, Chrono & Minousbijoux,

Thank you for the comments. Its a unanimous feedback that the spinel looks abit dark. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!!!
I certainly learned a fair bit about the colour of the spinel from you.

Where would you put the range of the price per carat of this spinel since it is 3.1 carat? below USD$300? USD$200? or USD$100



As for the fancy zoisite, Chrono is right that it is unheated.

Minousbijoux, U mentioned that more and more people are collecting fancy zoisite, is there any website that can be referred to? Is it rare to find >6 carats fancy zoisites?

Cheers

 

[T L]

For what its worth, if the photos are accurate, neither one would appeal to me. Definitely not anything I would consider worth collecting (though lately, people seem more and more interested in unheated Zoisite). Neither appears to have very good saturation and the spinel appears overly dark.

+2

Zoisite is also very soft. You can find similar color in very inexpensive tourmaline, which is harder. I wouldn't bother with either of them to be honest.

 

[colorchange]

>>> Where would you put the range of the price per carat of this spinel since it is 3.1 carat? below USD$300? USD$200? or USD$100

$100/Ct would be a maximum imo. Such spinels are common and quite hard to sell. Not many buy these for setting (too cheap, not as nice as a rubellite to most eyes) and there are not enough collectors around.

>>> Is it rare to find >6 carats fancy zoisites?

Basically, all blue and blue-violet are “fancy” before being heated. If one doesn’t get heated you can bet some experienced guy decided it would look bad after treatment. A light blue tanzanite these days is extremely cheap, and I wouldn’t value these for more.

Overall, to me “collector” means rare, whatever the value. These are not rare, and can be bought with a single phone call to a number of Bangkok merchant, or on eBay if you don’t know any.

 

[everyoneluvsgems]

Thanks TL & colorchange!

I also like to thank Chrono, Laurie and Minousbijoux once again for contributing their comments..

I guess i should not use the words 'Worth To Collect' cos its a big word to gemstones collectors.
A more appropriate word is 'Retain' as these gems were leave behind together with other gemstones by a relative whom has passed on...
We are contemplating to have the other gems certified as we are not sure what they are and whats their worth.

Nobody in the family has any knowledge of gemstones and I m glad that there is such a forum for us to get valuable comments and at the same time learn more abt them.

The certs were done more than 2 years ago but we have not clue to what was the price per carat. We will keep them since they are diffcult to sell and not of high worth. Thanks

Cheers

 

[chrono]

I am sorry that a relative has passed away but at least you have these to remember him/her by. The less expensive method and probably less conclusive way to ID the remaining stones is to bring them to a gemmology club or something similar where they can do simple refractive tests, specific gravity, and a couple other to narrow down the possibilities. Resale is a difficult market and one isn't always able to get a buyer for the price you want to sell. Enjoy your gems for what they are - they might not be worth a lot monetarily but they are rich in sentimentality.