MAC-W said:I lost 2 friends in the 9/11 attack and one of my husband’s friends lost his mother, so yes absolutely – in the words of Laurence Binyon "We will remember them”.
But I’m going to stick my neck out here and say, 9/11 wasn’t so terrible in the overall scheme of things because more American soldiers have lost their lives in the war on terror than all the people who died on 9/11. (4418 vs 2,996 according to the official figures that I can find, and over 31,000 wounded in the war on terror). Of course that's not counting however many responders who have died as a result of their trauma since 9/11.
Then there is the US embassy bombings in Nairobi & Dar es Salaam, over 220 people were killed, and over 4,000 wounded.
In the London bombing of 2005, 56 people were killed and around 700 were injured
In the Madrid bombing of 2004, 191 people died and 2,051 people were injured
In the Bali bombing of 2002, 202 people died, a further 240 people were injured
And these are places that have faced bombings time and time again over the last 20-30 years with the IRA, ETA, JII etc, so the figures quoted above are just the last attacks suffered.
There is also the Bosnia war in ‘92-95 where over 100,000 people died. (here’s a picture of the Sarajevo parliament building burning – look familiar?)
What about the Rwandan hutu/tutsi attacks of 1994 where over 800,000 people died.
Or the 1.7million Cambodians who died in the killing field in the 1970’s
The list goes on....... (don’t get me started on the Korean War, the Vietnam War, World War II....)
The reason 9/11 was so shocking is because it’s the first time the USA has been attacked by foreigners on its mainland soil. And up until 9/11 America had always seemed invulnerable (except for Pearl Harbour). They had tutted and commiserated when killings were going on in other parts of the world, even sent soldiers over to help, but the folks back “home” carried on with life as normal.
Suddenly 9/11 showed Americans they were not invulnerable. It was like Pearl Harbour all over again but just a little closer to home.
It was a shock!
Suddenly Americans realised they were just as vulnerable as the rest of us in this global village.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.
We will remember them ALL.
junebug17 said:MAC-W said:I lost 2 friends in the 9/11 attack and one of my husband’s friends lost his mother, so yes absolutely – in the words of Laurence Binyon "We will remember them”.
But I’m going to stick my neck out here and say, 9/11 wasn’t so terrible in the overall scheme of things because more American soldiers have lost their lives in the war on terror than all the people who died on 9/11. (4418 vs 2,996 according to the official figures that I can find, and over 31,000 wounded in the war on terror). Of course that's not counting however many responders who have died as a result of their trauma since 9/11.
Then there is the US embassy bombings in Nairobi & Dar es Salaam, over 220 people were killed, and over 4,000 wounded.
In the London bombing of 2005, 56 people were killed and around 700 were injured
In the Madrid bombing of 2004, 191 people died and 2,051 people were injured
In the Bali bombing of 2002, 202 people died, a further 240 people were injured
And these are places that have faced bombings time and time again over the last 20-30 years with the IRA, ETA, JII etc, so the figures quoted above are just the last attacks suffered.
There is also the Bosnia war in ‘92-95 where over 100,000 people died. (here’s a picture of the Sarajevo parliament building burning – look familiar?)
What about the Rwandan hutu/tutsi attacks of 1994 where over 800,000 people died.
Or the 1.7million Cambodians who died in the killing field in the 1970’s
The list goes on....... (don’t get me started on the Korean War, the Vietnam War, World War II....)
The reason 9/11 was so shocking is because it’s the first time the USA has been attacked by foreigners on its mainland soil. And up until 9/11 America had always seemed invulnerable (except for Pearl Harbour). They had tutted and commiserated when killings were going on in other parts of the world, even sent soldiers over to help, but the folks back “home” carried on with life as normal.
Suddenly 9/11 showed Americans they were not invulnerable. It was like Pearl Harbour all over again but just a little closer to home.
It was a shock!
Suddenly Americans realised they were just as vulnerable as the rest of us in this global village.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.
We will remember them ALL.
MAC-AW, I don't feel your post is appropriate. It comes dangerously close to a political discussion, which isn't allowed on PS. I guess I'll get called a net nanny, but to be honest, right now I really don't give a crap. And I find some of your sentiments not germane to the topic of this thread. This thread was intended to remember a specific day in our country's history, not infer that the US finally got what was coming to it. If you want to go down this road, start your own thread. I guess you can say what you want, but I also have the right to let you know I feel this is not the time or place for your comments.
klewis said:junebug17 said:MAC-AW, I don't feel your post is appropriate. It comes dangerously close to a political discussion, which isn't allowed on PS. I guess I'll get called a net nanny, but to be honest, right now I really don't give a crap. And I find some of your sentiments not germane to the topic of this thread. This thread was intended to remember a specific day in our country's history, not infer that the US finally got what was coming to it. If you want to go down this road, start your own thread. I guess you can say what you want, but I also have the right to let you know I feel this is not the time or place for your comments.
No politics have been mentioned in MAC-W's post, 9/11 is an terrible event which changed the world and will be commemorated in various ways around the world.
I commemorate it by trying to understand what and why - the preceding and proceding events in addition to the terrible tragedy that occurred on 9/11.
anchor31 said:junebug, nowhere in MAC-W's post is it inferred that "the US finally got what was coming to it"...
Kaleigh said:Title of this thread: Never Forget Sept . 11th...
If you want to bring up other topics do so in another thread.... I can't believe this thread has turned into a place for anything but paying homage to those that died on this day...
And to those of us who grieve... I know we don't corner that market. But I would hope people here would understand the profound loss that we feel....
You didn't have to lose someone to feel a loss.. Your world changed that day... It was something that touched everyone, everywhere...