New blue spinel

[OTL]

I might have been more tempted by the spinel on seeing the vendor's second photograph, but because of the tone, but because of the saturation (pop or richness of colour). Are you saying that your pictures of the spinel isn't showing the colour accurately?

To my eye, it looks more purplish than that (indoor), but I don't know why it shows more blue in the photo.

 

[chrono]

Have you tried any outdoor pictures to see how it photographs?

 

[LD]

I might have been more tempted by the spinel on seeing the vendor's second photograph, but because of the tone, but because of the saturation (pop or richness of colour). Are you saying that your pictures of the spinel isn't showing the colour accurately?

To my eye, it looks more purplish than that (indoor), but I don't know why it shows more blue in the photo.

Even better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually your last photo of the previous page (the one with the stone by the gold round thing - technical term ) you can see is verging towards purple. I love purple/blues

 

[chrono]

I don't think I've seen a blue spinel that stayed pure blue indoors. Most will have an element of purple, some more than others. I think this is a good thing as I'd rather a purple component than a gray blue colouration.

 

[ChrisA222]

Hey guys....

Ok...so maybe this whole half-half thing has now become a figment of my imagination...(you keep hearing about this so much you think you actually seeit...) but...

The right half of the stone looks completely dark in all the pictures, and this is roughly 1/2 of the gem. The left side of the stone (in all these pictures) looks very nicely blue.

So what gives? Isn't the half-half term 'darker or black areas of the stone occupying half of the stone"? Because that is what I see, in the same spot, in all the pics.

Im NOT trying to be rude, snarky, or anything like that--I am actually trying to learn. I never heard of this half half thing until I read on here, and then I started seeing it in some of my stones and/or pics on here.

I can hardly remember any dark toned oval stone without extinction. Your new tsavorite looks really pretty, but it is a medium toned oval stone, and it has Gene's cutting skills to avoid any extinction. I have seen those half extinction on both native cut stones as well as precision cut stones. It does not bother me a lot as long as it's not blackish. I feel we should not dislike a stone only because it has some extinction,so I am with LD on this matter.

OTL....I am with you...come on, you know me by now..I have enough dark stones to know what extinction is and to tolerate it...I just was not sure if it was seeing it in half of the stone (in all of the pictures) so was wondering if you saw them at all times, in that half of the stone, that is all I was saying. My favorite Blue Spinel has extinction here as you can see. It isnt half of the stone though, it moves around. This effect doesn't bother me in this stone because the color saturation is killer. So, in summary---if your stone doens't show half of it extinct in the same place all the time--then I have zero problems with it. Ive seen Cresla, and they are very very inexpensive so I was put-off by that, and their pics are pretty poor overall (at least thats the impression I got) so I avoided them. But your stone is a lot nicer than what I would have expected from that vendor--I think you did pretty well.

Edit: Chrono is right---they shift. This one turns purple at night, and more blue during the day.

 

[minousbijoux]

Chris: I know its hard to do, but we'd get a more perspective of your stone if you corrected the white balance so that it did not read as blueish purple itself! Maybe tone down the saturation a bit? I don't know, I just know the white balance is way off.

 

[OTL]

I used my canon 5D mark|| in the weekend and took some representative photos, I didn't expect it to look like this in the sun..This is already the best color of cresla's blue spinels but I'm thinking of return...I don't particularly prefer dark tones stones, especially when it goes darker in the sun...

 

[LD]

Chris: I know its hard to do, but we'd get a more perspective of your stone if you corrected the white balance so that it did not read as blueish purple itself! Maybe tone down the saturation a bit? I don't know, I just know the white balance is way off.

And photographing any stone at that angle will show extinction in one half of a gem when it may not be that apparent.

 

[LD]

I used my canon 5D mark|| in the weekend and took some representative photos, I didn't expect it to look like this in the sun..This is already the best color of cresla's blue spinels but I'm thinking of return...I don't particularly prefer dark tones stones, especially when it goes darker in the sun...

OTL is this how you see the spinel IRL outside? If so, send it back. It's a black hole. Unfortunately many spinels do this. I'm sure I've told you of my stop light red one that does a similar thing? Inside, superb, love it. Outside - nope, not for me! I loved the other photos of your spinel - really loved them - but these new shots are very unappealing and look grey/black. I apologise and don't mean to be harsh but I'd prefer to tell you what I see than say "oh wow that's lovely" when I know you could put this money towards a much nicer gem. Having said all of that, if you love it, then ignore me completely!

 

[ChrisA222]

LD, Good to know...

Minou, I havent yet figured out why the camera does what it does. Its set on automatic, I guess I need to learn photo editing so I can attempt on correcting what the camera does...its not even consistant inwhat it does, as most of the time, it kills the saturation.

I know I know, get a new camera, LOL...

 

[OTL]

I used my canon 5D mark|| in the weekend and took some representative photos, I didn't expect it to look like this in the sun..This is already the best color of cresla's blue spinels but I'm thinking of return...I don't particularly prefer dark tones stones, especially when it goes darker in the sun...

OTL is this how you see the spinel IRL outside? If so, send it back. It's a black hole. Unfortunately many spinels do this. I'm sure I've told you of my stop light red one that does a similar thing? Inside, superb, love it. Outside - nope, not for me! I loved the other photos of your spinel - really loved them - but these new shots are very unappealing and look grey/black. I apologise and don't mean to be harsh but I'd prefer to tell you what I see than say "oh wow that's lovely" when I know you could put this money towards a much nicer gem. Having said all of that, if you love it, then ignore me completely!

It's close to what I see, I love it in the shade, under fluorescent light, but other than that, it turns blackish. Now the vendor's photo is definitely prettier than real stone I was told that "Please note that this color of Blue comes in one-in-a-thousand gems and hence very expensive." Guess I should not trust the words.

 

[LD]

I used my canon 5D mark|| in the weekend and took some representative photos, I didn't expect it to look like this in the sun..This is already the best color of cresla's blue spinels but I'm thinking of return...I don't particularly prefer dark tones stones, especially when it goes darker in the sun...

OTL is this how you see the spinel IRL outside? If so, send it back. It's a black hole. Unfortunately many spinels do this. I'm sure I've told you of my stop light red one that does a similar thing? Inside, superb, love it. Outside - nope, not for me! I loved the other photos of your spinel - really loved them - but these new shots are very unappealing and look grey/black. I apologise and don't mean to be harsh but I'd prefer to tell you what I see than say "oh wow that's lovely" when I know you could put this money towards a much nicer gem. Having said all of that, if you love it, then ignore me completely!

It's close to what I see, I love it in the shade, under fluorescent light, but other than that, it turns blackish. Now the vendor's photo is definitely prettier than real stone I was told that "Please note that this color of Blue comes in one-in-a-thousand gems and hence very expensive." Guess I should not trust the words.

No you absolutely shouldn't. It's total sales pitch. Look at it coldly, if this was a one in a thousand gem, did it have the price tag to match? No.

 

[chrono]

I do not see the green modifier you wrote of much earlier but the extreme level of extinction seen outdoors is a deal breaker for me. The colour might be one in a thousand but the extinction level is very common. If it has the colouration and does not exhibit this terrible overpowering level of extinction, then yes, this spinel would be the one in a thousand blue spinel.

 

[deorwine]

Unfortunately many spinels do this. I'm sure I've told you of my stop light red one that does a similar thing? Inside, superb, love it. Outside - nope, not for me!

Off topic a little, but -- huh, red spinels black out too? Iiiiiinteresting, I didn't know that! Is this why Mahenges are so prized, then? (My two small Mahenges go a little less saturated outdoors but they don't at all black out.)

 

[chrono]

I have seen some amazingly coloured red spinel black out as well.

 

[T L]

A long time ago, I inquired to Cresla about that blue spinel in comparison to another one they had that was way more expensive. They told me this one wasn't as saturated as the much more expensive one, so I passed. It did look nice in their vendor photo and I think there was a video too.

 

[Gem_Man]

Deorwine, the Mahenge spinels are prized for the intensity of the colours. Think of what Paraiba tourmaline is like in comparison to the rest of the species. There is an intensity to it in the finest stones. The same basically goes for the Mahenge spinel. There are virtually no negative saturation modifiers in the material, so a very intense colour is the result.

With regards to the spinels blacking out, I suspect the reason some do and some don't, is due to fluorescence. I purchased a load of mahenge spinel rough a couple of years ago. Some of the reds and pinks have weak to strong fluorescence, others don't.

In my experience from this purchase, I found that there was a distinct colour shift in the purple material to pink under incandescent lighting. Interestingly enough, the further north you go, the less pronounced this is. I live in the UK,and the colour shift is considerably less here than Tanzania where I purchased the rough.

 

[LD]

Deorwine, the Mahenge spinels are prized for the intensity of the colours. Think of what Paraiba tourmaline is like in comparison to the rest of the species. There is an intensity to it in the finest stones. The same basically goes for the Mahenge spinel. There are virtually no negative saturation modifiers in the material, so a very intense colour is the result.

With regards to the spinels blacking out, I suspect the reason some do and some don't, is due to fluorescence. I purchased a load of mahenge spinel rough a couple of years ago. Some of the reds and pinks have weak to strong fluorescence, others don't.

In my experience from this purchase, I found that there was a distinct colour shift in the purple material to pink under incandescent lighting. Interestingly enough, the further north you go, the less pronounced this is. I live in the UK,and the colour shift is considerably less here than Tanzania where I purchased the rough.

Yep I'm in the UK as well and find all of my colour changers far more spectacular the more sun they get - which for us is about 2 days a year

Not sure I'd agree about fluor causing the extinction though. It has some extinction in incandescent light anyway but outdoors it worsens considerably. Here's a montage of photos of my red (that has some purple/pink). I will test it for fluor but it probably does have it because I naturally gravitate towards gems with fluor without realising it.

 

[OTL]

A long time ago, I inquired to Cresla about that blue spinel in comparison to another one they had that was way more expensive. They told me this one wasn't as saturated as the much more expensive one, so I passed. It did look nice in their vendor photo and I think there was a video too.

I wish I have consulted here before purchasing it... I didn't see other blue spinels with better color at that time, maybe it was ended. But I am definitely not going back to try more stones from them because their other photos look terrible. That's why at first LD asked who was the vendor I hesitated, because this photo does not represent their usual photos at all

 

[OTL]

A long time ago, I inquired to Cresla about that blue spinel in comparison to another one they had that was way more expensive. They told me this one wasn't as saturated as the much more expensive one, so I passed. It did look nice in their vendor photo and I think there was a video too.

Hi TL, off topic here, I was wondering whether you have a vendor photo for your lavender spinel a few years ago? I am having problem reading their photos too..So if you can post it here that would be very helpful, thanks

 

[T L]

A long time ago, I inquired to Cresla about that blue spinel in comparison to another one they had that was way more expensive. They told me this one wasn't as saturated as the much more expensive one, so I passed. It did look nice in their vendor photo and I think there was a video too.

Hi TL, off topic here, I was wondering whether you have a vendor photo for your lavender spinel a few years ago? I am having problem reading their photos too..So if you can post it here that would be very helpful, thanks

I wish I did, but I had to clean all my old gem pictures off my computer that crashed.

That's actually a horrible picture, that spinel is one of the most beautiful pinkish lavender spinels I own.

This is my close up picture of that stone, and you can see all the negative crystal inclusions.



and a further away shot.



That vendor has lots of very dark spinels, I would stick to photos that look very light and bright.

 

[OTL]

A long time ago, I inquired to Cresla about that blue spinel in comparison to another one they had that was way more expensive. They told me this one wasn't as saturated as the much more expensive one, so I passed. It did look nice in their vendor photo and I think there was a video too.

Hi TL, off topic here, I was wondering whether you have a vendor photo for your lavender spinel a few years ago? I am having problem reading their photos too..So if you can post it here that would be very helpful, thanks

I wish I did, but I had to clean all my old gem pictures off my computer that crashed.

That's actually a horrible picture, that spinel is one of the most beautiful pinkish lavender spinels I own.

This is my close up picture of that stone, and you can see all the negative crystal inclusions.



That vendor has lots of very dark spinels, I would stick to photos that look very light and bright.

Thank you! That is insanely beautiful. I am aware that I should ony check those light pictures, but somehow the photo looks light, and video still show a great darkness, especially the saturation is less than their photo. Do you feel their stones are better in person or better in their photo/video? If I see any greyish tone, does that mean it will have even more in actual stone?

 

[T L]

Thank you.

I feel that their stones tend to be much darker and less saturated than the photo. The videos seem to be more accurate.

 

[OTL]

Thank you.

I feel that their stones tend to be much darker and less saturated than the photo. The videos seem to be more accurate.

Hmmm, that rules out all spinels they are carrying