New York Times Reporter Jailed

[AGBF]

Date: 10/25/2005 1:06:32 AM
Author: movie zombie
didn''t he do jail time for watergate?

Dick Cheney?

Deb

 

[movie zombie]

no, libby...didn''t he do jail time?

he''s not the only one in the current administration that has ties and/or actual involvement in watergate.

peace, movie zombie

 

[AGBF]

Date: 10/25/2005 3:25:13 PM
Author: movie zombie
no, libby...didn''t he do jail time?

I was joking about Dick Cheney. I think if he''d been in jail for Watergate crimes it would have come up during one of the elections .

To the best of my knowledge, I. Lewis Libby was still in college during the Watergate burglary. Are you thinking of G. Gordon Liddy? That guy was a real piece of work!

Deb

 

[movie zombie]

yeah, that''s the one! liddy was in fact one piece of work...looks like libby takes after him.

peace, movie zombie

 

[AGBF]

Maureen Dowd spells it out!

"The shocking thing about the trellis of revelations showing Dick Cheney, the self-styled Mr. Strong America, as the central figure in dark conspiracies to juice up a case for war and demonize those who tried to tell the public the truth is how unshocking it all is.

It's exactly what we thought was going on, but we never thought we'd actually hear the lurid details: Cheney and Rummy, the two old compadres from the Nixon and Ford days, in a cabal running the country and the world into the ground, driven by their poisonous obsession with Iraq, while Junior is out of the loop, playing in the gym or on his mountain bike.

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According to a Times story yesterday, Scooter Libby first learned about Joseph Wilson's C.I.A. wife from his boss, Mr. Cheney, not from reporters, as he'd originally suggested. And Mr. Cheney learned it from George Tenet, according to Mr. Libby's notes.

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Colonel Wilkerson, the former chief of staff for Colin Powell, broke the code and denounced Vice's vortex, calling his own involvement in Mr. Powell's U.N. speech, infected with bogus Cheney and Scooter malarkey, 'the lowest point' in his life.

He followed that with a blast of blunt talk in a speech and an op-ed piece in The Los Angeles Times, saying that foreign policy had been hijacked by 'a secretive, little-known cabal' that hated dissent. He said the cabal was headed by Mr. Cheney, 'a vice president who speaks only to Rush Limbaugh and assembled military forces,' and Donald Rumsfeld, 'a secretary of defense presiding over the death by a thousand cuts of our overstretched armed forces.'"


Maureen Dowd

Deb

 

[AGBF]

Date: 7/6/2005 11:08:33 PM
Author:Matatora
Judith Miller is now in jail, for up to four months. An undercover CIA agent was reveled....

Well...now we know who exposed her: the Bush administration. But it was Judith Miller who went to jail...for protecting her source in the Bush administration!

"I. Lewis Libby Jr., Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff and one of the most powerful figures in the Bush administration, was formally accused today of lying and obstruction of justice in an inquiry into the unmasking of a covert C.I.A. officer.

A trip by Joseph C. Wilson IV to Niger nearly four years ago was the beginning of a series of events now being investigated by a special prosecutor, Patrick J. Fitzgerald.

A federal grand jury indicted Mr. Libby on one count of obstruction, two counts of perjury and two of making false statements in the course of an investigation that raised questions about the administration's rationale for going to war against Iraq, how it treats critics and political opponents and whether high White House officials shaded the truth. The charges are felonies."

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Deb

 

[rodentman]

My brother''s poor cat, named "Scooter" is now insecure and horribly self conscious. My brother thinks he may need to change the cat''s name in order to preserve it''s sanity.

 

[AGBF]

Date: 10/29/2005 10:46:51 PM
Author: rodentman
My brother''s poor cat, named ''Scooter'' is now insecure and horribly self conscious. My brother thinks he may need to change the cat''s name in order to preserve it''s sanity.

Does the cat have a history of insecurity? If not, he may be able to weather this crisis. Cats are more resilient than we realize. Oh, wait! That was children. Never mind.

Deb, who has missed you!

 

[movie zombie]

Date: 10/29/2005 10:46:51 PM
Author: rodentman
My brother''s poor cat, named ''Scooter'' is now insecure and horribly self conscious. My brother thinks he may need to change the cat''s name in order to preserve it''s sanity.

now that is funny!

peace, movie zombie

 

[AGBF]

Perhaps Karl Rove is not going to get away scot-free from the Valerie Plame affair. It would do my heart good to see him nailed. Libby was taking the fall. Let's hope that Patrick Johnson continues to pursue the truth...wherever it leads!

"The special prosecutor in the C.I.A. leak case announced today that he wants to convene a new federal grand jury, a clear signal that the indictment of I. Lewis Libby Jr. may not be the last episode in the affair.

'The investigation is continuing,' the prosecutor, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, said in a court filing here. He said the investigation would now involve a grand jury different from the one that indicted Mr. Libby, a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney, three weeks ago.

...​

Well before his indictment, Mr. Libby was known to be a focus of Mr. Fitzgerald's inquiry. Lawyers who are familiar with the affair have said that President Bush's key aide Karl Rove also remains under investigation."

Prosecutor in Leak Case Wants to Convene New Grand Jury


Deborah

 

[movie zombie]

even if libby isn''t ''guilty'' re Plame, he IS GUILTY of lying to the FBI and the grand jury which in and of itself is punishable by jail time.....just ask martha stewart.

peace, movie zombie

 

[Rank Amateur]

Why is it that after years of investigating Fitzgerald couldn''t come up with anything more than a charge of lying during the investigation? The charge has more to do with political doublespeak than the CIA. Is this because:

a. Fitz is holding back - other indictments are imminent.
b. Bush and Co are too smart to get caught.
c. Fitz just needs a few more years to make his case(s).
d. there are no other crimes.
e. Fitz is a lousy prosecutor.
f. the national media has downplayed the story.

 

[AGBF]

Date: 11/19/2005 8:47:50 AM
Author: Rank Amateur
Why is it that after years of investigating Fitzgerald couldn't come up with anything more than a charge of lying during the investigation? The charge has more to do with political doublespeak than the CIA. Is this because:
(snippage of list of possible reasons)

Could it be that Mr. Fitzgerald is thorough, steady, reliable, and honest? Is it possible that this man does not want to jump to conclusions or grab headlines like some other special prosecutors (Ken Starr come to mind) have done? Maybe he needs the amount of time it takes (not the amount of time you want to allot him) to do his job correctly?

Deb

 

[movie zombie]

and from a former republican, Ms. Huffington:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/valerie-plame/

contains links to news articles and blogs.

check out her 15 questions for bob woodward: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/15-questions-for-bob-wood_b_10821.html

peace, movie zombie

 

[AGBF]

Valerie Plame, the woman whose identity as a CIA agent was revealed by the Bush administration, has left the CIA.

"Married to Bush administration critic and former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson, Plame was working at agency headquarters in Langley, Va., in 2003 when her CIA status was disclosed by conservative columnist Robert Novak.

That triggered a probe that led to the recent indictment of Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby.

...​

'Her career was arbitrarily and whimsically destroyed by a mean political trick,' said Vincent Cannistraro, a former chief of operations for the CIA's Counterterrorism Center.

Plame's CIA connection was disclosed eight days after her husband accused the Bush administration of twisting prewar intelligence to exaggerate the Iraqi threat.

In the preface to the paperback edition of his book, 'The Politics of Truth,' Wilson says that he and his wife were the focus of a 'Republican smear machine.'"

article

Deborah

 

[AGBF]

Well...here's an update on Scooter Libby. It seems (surprise, surprise) that he did not act alone in destroying Valerie Plame's career at the CIA after her husband, in his "New York Times" Op-ed piece, pointed out the falsehoods told by Mr. Bush as he tried to sell the country on the invasion of Iraq.

No one would want to call this a "conspiracy", right? Although it seems some people did conspire to leak Valerie Plame's (Mrs. Wilson's) name to the press....

First Bush lies about Iraq to the American people (see the Downing Street Memo). He and Tony Blair CONSPIRE to lie and there are minutes kept of the meeting where they do so! Then Scooter Libby (acting for someone else, he now says) destroys Ms. Plame with some leaks. Then Bush snoops on Americans and both he and Alberto Gonzales lie about it, swearing they would only wiretap if they got subpoenas.

Why don't I trust those guys?

Libby: White House 'Superiors' OK'd Leaks

By TONI LOCY

WASHINGTON (AP) - "A former top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney told a federal grand jury that his superiors authorized him to give secret information to reporters as part of the Bush administration's defense of intelligence used to justify invading Iraq, according to court papers.

Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald said in documents filed last month that he plans to introduce evidence that I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby, Cheney's former chief of staff, disclosed to reporters the contents of a classified National Intelligence Estimate in the summer of 2003."

 

[rodentman]

My brother will not change the cat''s name, but it will no longer go outside and play with other cats. In fact, it has the same desire to go outside as it does to read the NY TImes.

 

[AGBF]

Date: 2/10/2006 8:11:51 PM
Author: rodentman
My brother will not change the cat's name, but it will no longer go outside and play with other cats. In fact, it has the same desire to go outside as it does to read the NY TImes.

Don't bother showing this to your brother's cat, then! It would be good for American citizens to know about this, however. If they can hear about it on the radio or watch it on the television news, it's all the same to me.

Ex-C.I.A. Official Says Iraq Data Was Distorted

 

[AGBF]

Here is an excerpt from the above article.

"The views of Paul R. Pillar, who retired in October as national intelligence officer for the Near East and South Asia, echoed previous criticism from Democrats and from some administration officials, including Richard A. Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism adviser, and Paul H. O'Neill, the former treasury secretary.

But Mr. Pillar is the first high-level C.I.A. insider to speak out by name on the use of prewar intelligence. His article for the March-April issue of Foreign Affairs, which charges the administration with the selective use of intelligence about Iraq's unconventional weapons and the chances of postwar chaos in Iraq, was posted Friday on the journal's Web site after it was reported in The Washington Post.

'If the entire body of official intelligence on Iraq had a policy implication, it was to avoid war — or, if war was going to be launched, to prepare for a messy aftermath,' Mr. Pillar wrote. 'What is most remarkable about prewar U.S. intelligence on Iraq is not that it got things wrong and thereby misled policymakers; it is that it played so small a role in one of the most important U.S. policy decisions in decades.'

...​

'There is ground to be replowed on Iraq,' said Mr. Pillar, now a professor at Georgetown University. 'But what is more important is to look at the whole intelligence-policy relationship and get a discussion and debate going to make sure what happened on Iraq doesn't happen again.'"

 

[AGBF]

Democratic and Republican Senators are both calling for the investigation of Dick Cheney in regard to this leak. Some excerpts follow and a link to the AP article is provided below.


Senators: Cheney Should Be Probed in Leak


WASHINGTON (AP) - "Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald should investigate Vice President Dick Cheney and others in the CIA leak probe if they authorized an aide to give secret information to reporters, Democratic and Republican senators said Sunday.

Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., called the leak of intelligence information 'inappropriate' if it is true that unnamed 'superiors' instructed Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby, to divulge the material on Iraq.

Sen. George Allen, R-Va., said a full investigation is necessary.

'I don't think anybody should be releasing classified information, period, whether in the Congress, executive branch or some underling in some bureaucracy,' said Allen, who appeared with Reed on 'Fox News Sunday.'

According to court documents disclosed last week, Libby told a federal grand jury that he disclosed in July 2003 the contents of a classified National Intelligence Estimate as part of the Bush administration's defense of intelligence used to justify invading Iraq.

Fitzgerald said in the documents it was his understanding that 'Mr. Libby testified that he was authorized to disclose information about the NIE to the press by his superiors.'

The White House has refused to comment on the case.

...​

Libby, 55, was indicted on charges that he lied to FBI agents and the grand jury about how he learned CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity and when he told reporters. He is not charged with leaking classified information."


02/12/06 13:19

AP Release

 

[AGBF]

Date: 7/6/2005 11:08:33 PM
Author:Matatora
Judith Miller is now in jail, for up to four months. An undercover CIA agent was reveled....

I thought we should review what we were led to believe (that some reporters were unpatriotic and blew some CIA operative''s cover) versus what really went on: The White House (Bush and Cheney are, specifically, on the hotseat) revealed that operative to punish her husband for telling some truths about the Iraq War at an inopportune moment for Bush & Co who wanted the public to believe their lies about Iraq.

article

 

[AGBF]

Date: 4/11/2006 4:49:06 AM
Author: AGBF
I thought we should review what we were led to believe (that some reporters were unpatriotic and blew some CIA operative's cover) versus what really went on: The White House (Bush and Cheney are, specifically, on the hotseat) revealed that operative to punish her husband for telling some truths about the Iraq War at an inopportune moment for Bush & Co who wanted the public to believe their lies about Iraq.

article

Here is an excerpt from an article published yesterday.

"WASHINGTON, April 10 — From the early days of the C.I.A. leak investigation in 2003, the Bush White House has insisted there was no effort to discredit Joseph C. Wilson IV, the man who emerged as the most damaging critic of the administration's case that Saddam Hussein was seeking to build nuclear weapons.

But now White House officials, and specifically President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, have been pitched back into the center of the nearly three-year controversy, this time because of a prosecutor's court filing in the case that asserts there was 'a strong desire by many, including multiple people in the White House,' to undermine Mr. Wilson.

The new assertions by the special prosecutor, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, have put administration officials on the spot in a way they have not been for months, as attention in the leak case seems to be shifting away from the White House to the pretrial procedural skirmishing in the perjury and obstruction charges against Mr. Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby Jr.

Mr. Fitzgerald's filing talks not of an effort to level with Americans but of 'a plan to discredit, punish or seek revenge against Mr. Wilson.' It concludes, 'It is hard to conceive of what evidence there could be that would disprove the existence of White House efforts to "punish Wilson." '

Think about what the White House did to get the public to support an invasion of Iraq.

It lied [the Downing Street Memo-which showed that Bush and Blair had agreed to lie to the American and British people in order to attack Iraq-has been substantiated] and exposed a CIA employee to silence her husband when he told the truth about Iraq's nuclear capabilities.

Are we now going to let this man lead us into a war against Iran in which he uses tactical nuclear weapons? I say, NO!!!

 

[movie zombie]

and just how do we stop him?

movie zombie