Obama Ineligible to be President

[oshinbreez]

And it seems like there is a reason for Obama''s many visits to Kenya.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f82_1222957166

 

[decodelighted]

WAIT .... The Smoking Gun ... (from the same AHH-may-zing site)

Sexy!!!!

Can't ... stop .... laughing ... !!!! Is this the year 2008?


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[AGBF]

Pardon me for asking, but what is the point of this thread now? It seems like an exercise in racism. If we want to dig up every régime in history that defined a member of a tribe or group or nation we could find some interesting ones. At one point in the United States anyone with "one drop" of African blood was held to be a "Negro". I am not even sure if that was the legal term in use then. Nazi Germany had a hierarchy of to what someone was Jewish determined by how many Jewish grandparents he had. One could be a Mischling first degree, for instance, or a Mischling second degree. South Africa had a code by which there were blacks, coloreds, and whites. Everyone had to fit into his category. India had an unchanging, unrelenting caste system. I could go on and on.

My point is, what is the point of doing this in this thread? What does it matter what the Kenyans think about Barack Obama? Whether or not they, also, consider him a citizen, he is a US ciitizen. Any further discussion is bizarre and racist.

Why continue it? As the Romans asked, cui bono?


Deborah

 

[MoonWater]

hahaha...oh deco...people will believe anything.

 

[MaggieB]

This is why I have avoided the "non-snark" thread. I do not try to ever deliberately be snarky. However, I''m at a loss as to how else to respond when a poster repeatedly posts links to non-substantiated smears.

If there is anyone out there who does not understand this - ANYONE can put ANYTHING that they want to on the internet. It doesn''t make it true, accurate, or relevant.

If you post things like this, you should be prepared for other posters to respond with snark.

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 10/21/2008 4:46:09 PM
Author: MaggieB
This is why I have avoided the ''non-snark'' thread. I do not try to ever deliberately be snarky. However, I''m at a loss as to how else to respond when a poster repeatedly posts links to non-substantiated smears.

If there is anyone out there who does not understand this - ANYONE can put ANYTHING that they want to on the internet. It doesn''t make it true, accurate, or relevant.

If you post things like this, you should be prepared for other posters to respond with snark.

Amen.

 

[AGBF]

The last time I posted was after oshinbreeze mentioned that Kenyans (actually, I believe it was a couple of Kenyans) thought Barack Obama was Kenyan but before anyone posted any suggestion that he was in league with Muslim terrorists. That is way too bizarre a suggestion for me to want to try to contest. I don't want anyone to think I was responding to that.


Deborah

 

[luckystar112]

Have you all seen this "news site"?

I almost feel bad for these people. It reminds me of the Nigeria scam. "Help us cash this check for $250,000 and we will release the tape!"
lol


And in case that wasn''t clear enough....I think the site is phooey.

 

[SarahLovesJS]

Date: 10/21/2008 4:53:29 PM
Author: luckystar112
Have you all seen this ''news site''?


I almost feel bad for these people. It reminds me of the Nigeria scam. ''Help us cash this check for $250,000 and we will release the tape!''

lol



And in case that wasn''t clear enough....I think the site is phooey.

Yeah, I agree with you, it''s total bull. They''ve been pushing this since last week! "We''ll have it, we''ll have it in 24 hrs, 24 hrs, 24 hrs, 24 hrs!" Pfft. They need to just admit now they made it all up, lol.

 

[Rank Amateur]

Does he hold dual citizenship? Kind of interesting if he did.

Has anyone asked him?

 

[iheartscience]

Oshinbreez, I suggest you get your "news" from actual, reputable news sources. You know, like newspapers and stuff? There are even conservative newspapers like The Washington Times if you can't bring yourself to read a newspaper with an "elite liberal" slant. The links you've posted in this thread are consistently ridiculous and offensive.

 

[mimzy]

Date: 10/21/2008 5:50:06 PM
Author: Rank Amateur
Does he hold dual citizenship? Kind of interesting if he did.


Has anyone asked him?

if memory serves me correctly, he had dual citizenship until he was eighteen at which time it expired. i might be wrong though! (must run, will look it up later)

 

[AGBF]

Date: 10/21/2008 5:50:06 PM
Author: Rank Amateur
Does he hold dual citizenship? Kind of interesting if he did.

I'm not sure if you have had any international experience, R/A, but things are not that simple. Sometimes a person can have dual citizenship in the United States and another country. Now, for example, it is possible for someone to have dual citizenship in the United States and Italy (the country in which my husband was born and raised).

At the time when my husband became a United States citizen, given that he was an adult and choosing US citizenship, he had to renounce all ties with Italy and give up his Italian citizenship.

In my husband's eyes, and in the eyes of the United States, he was only a citizen of the United States. I do not know if Italy would have accepted that or not. Possibly they would have. Had he taken up residence there, however, I suspect that Italy would have ruled that he was subject to the rules of Italian citizens. I doubt they would have recognized him as American. I also know of another man who left Italy at two years old to emmigrate to the United States with his family; he returned to Italy on a vacation as an adult and was drafted. According to Italian law, he was Italian.

Other countries sometimes have different ideas on who are citizens of their countries than we do. We may say someone does not have dual citizenship. Meanwhile two or three other contries may be claiming him as a citizen based on other grounds!

Deborah

 

[mimzy]

Date: 10/21/2008 8:45:00 PM
Author: AGBF

Date: 10/21/2008 5:50:06 PM
Author: Rank Amateur
Does he hold dual citizenship? Kind of interesting if he did.

I''m not sure if you have had any international experience, R/A, but things are not that simple. Sometimes a person can have dual citizenship in the United States and another country. Now, for example, it is possible for someone to have dual citizenship in the United States and Italy (the country in which my husband was born and raised).
At the time when my husband became a United States citizen, given that he was an adult and choosing US citizenship, he had to renounce all ties with Italy and give up his Italian citizenship.
In my husband''s eyes, and in the eyes of the United States, he was only a citizen of the United States. I do not know if Italy would have accepted that or not. Possibly they would have. Had he taken up residence there, however, I suspect that Italy would have ruled that he was subject to the rules of Italian citizens. I doubt they would have recognized him as American. I also know of another man who left Italy at two years old to emmigrate to the United States with his family; he returned to Italy on a vacation as an adult and was drafted. According to Italian law, he was Italian.


Other countries sometimes have different ideas on who are citizens of their countries than we do. We may say someone does not have dual citizenship. Meanwhile two or three other contries may be claiming him as a citizen based on other grounds!
Deborah

ditto.

the US doesn''t ''recognize'' dual citizenship for many countries - and i''m guessing Kenya isn''t on the list of countries they do. but just because "we" don''t recognize it, doesn''t mean that the other country doesn''t. it''s sort of a technicality and doesn''t usually have too much bearing on a person''s life. my FI has both american and canadian citizenship, and while neither recognizes the other, he is still subject to the laws of each when in that particular country. but usually when citizenship is based off a parent''s citizenship (such as in Obama''s case), it is subject to expiration unless it is purposefully renewed or reestablished by the person after a certain age.

 

[decodelighted]

I feel silly even going down this road but more info on Obama & McCain''s birth certificates. It notes that even if McCain or Obama were born on MARS, that they''d be American citizens due to having an American citizen as a parent.

McCain was born in scary, scary PANAMA you know!

 

[luckystar112]

Democrat (just throwing that out there) Philip Berg is not letting this die.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78671

Now Berg cites Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which states that unless the accused party provides written answer or objection to charges within 30 days, the accused legally admits the matter. Since Obama has only filed motions to dismiss and has not actually answered the charges in the lawsuit, Berg claims, according to Rule 36, Obama has legally admitted he is not a natural-born citizen. Now Berg is asking the court for a formal declaration of Obama''s admission and asking the Democratic National Committee for another presidential candidate.

 

[oshinbreez]

Date: 10/23/2008 4:57:25 PM
Author: luckystar112
Democrat (just throwing that out there) Philip Berg is not letting this die.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78671


Now Berg cites Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which states that unless the accused party provides written answer or objection to charges within 30 days, the accused legally admits the matter. Since Obama has only filed motions to dismiss and has not actually answered the charges in the lawsuit, Berg claims, according to Rule 36, Obama has legally admitted he is not a natural-born citizen. Now Berg is asking the court for a formal declaration of Obama''s admission and asking the Democratic National Committee for another presidential candidate.

Philip Berg isn''t the only one who wants to see his birth certificate. Seems like more lawsuits are being filed all the time.


Source

 

[purrfectpear]

Proof positive that conspiracy nutcases exist on sites beyond Pricescope

 

[feathers]

I am not a USA citizen nor do I reside in the USA, but the whole world is watching this election and it has been interesting reading the comments from the supporters from both sides.

Ideally the political party platform, philosophy, track record, and the candidate's experience and leadership skills are taken into consideration by the voters. The reality though is that the voters are free to base their support on anything. However, if one is looking at missing thesis, 'illegal' birth certificate due to first 'missing' seal and then 'incorrect' father race category, some Kenyans' opinions, and disclosures of the names of small donors, perhaps one is trying too hard to justify his/her support.

Just my opinion.

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 10/25/2008 12:00:56 PM
Author: feathers

I am not a USA citizen nor do I reside in the USA, but the whole world is watching this election and it has been interesting reading the comments from the supporters from both sides.

Ideally the political party platform, philosophy, track record, and the candidate''s experience and leadership skills are taken into consideration by the voters. The reality though is that the voters are free to base their support on anything. However, if one is looking at missing thesis, ''illegal'' birth certificate due to first ''missing'' seal and then ''incorrect'' father race category, some Kenyans'' opinions, and disclosures of the names of small donors, perhaps one is trying too hard to justify his/her support.

Just my opinion.

Truer words were never spoken, feathers!

 

[E B]

Date: 10/25/2008 12:00:56 PM
Author: feathers

Ideally the political party platform, philosophy, track record, and the candidate''s experience and leadership skills are taken into consideration by the voters. The reality though is that the voters are free to base their support on anything. However, if one is looking at missing thesis, ''illegal'' birth certificate due to first ''missing'' seal and then ''incorrect'' father race category, some Kenyans'' opinions, and disclosures of the names of small donors, perhaps one is trying too hard to justify his/her support.

Just my opinion.

I couldn''t agree more.

 

[decodelighted]

Date: 10/25/2008 1:21:57 PM
Author: EBree

Date: 10/25/2008 12:00:56 PM
Author: feathers

Ideally the political party platform, philosophy, track record, and the candidate''s experience and leadership skills are taken into consideration by the voters. The reality though is that the voters are free to base their support on anything. However, if one is looking at missing thesis, ''illegal'' birth certificate due to first ''missing'' seal and then ''incorrect'' father race category, some Kenyans'' opinions, and disclosures of the names of small donors, perhaps one is trying too hard to justify his/her support.

Just my opinion.

I couldn''t agree more.

ABSOFRIGGINLUTELY!! Other things Obama has not released: his shoe size! brand of deodorant! (not that he needs it, his natural scent is of sugar cookies & magic) And one time he passed a note in junior high school that read "Do you like me .." with two boxes on it .. YES & NO. To this day the note has NOT BEEN LOCATED! Rumors persist that the intended note target was a young woman who later served an afternoon in detention, in other words, A TERRORIST!!!!

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 10/25/2008 2:22:44 PM
Author: decodelighted

Date: 10/25/2008 1:21:57 PM

Author: EBree

Date: 10/25/2008 12:00:56 PM

Author: feathers

Ideally the political party platform, philosophy, track record, and the candidate''s experience and leadership skills are taken into consideration by the voters. The reality though is that the voters are free to base their support on anything. However, if one is looking at missing thesis, ''illegal'' birth certificate due to first ''missing'' seal and then ''incorrect'' father race category, some Kenyans'' opinions, and disclosures of the names of small donors, perhaps one is trying too hard to justify his/her support.

Just my opinion.

I couldn''t agree more.

ABSOFRIGGINLUTELY!! Other things Obama has not released: his shoe size! brand of deodorant! (not that he needs it, his natural scent is of sugar cookies & magic) And one time he passed a note in junior high school that read ''Do you like me ..'' with two boxes on it .. YES & NO. To this day the note has NOT BEEN LOCATED! Rumors persist that the intended note target was a young woman who later served an afternoon in detention, in other words, A TERRORIST!!!!

Hahaha-deco, I posted something exactly like this in the "What''s Obama Hiding?" thread! Hilarious!

 

[VRBeauty]

Apparently one of the lawsuits challenging eligibility has been dismissed on the basis that the plaintiff did not have sufficient standing to sue:

http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/lawsuit-against-obama-dismissed-from.html

Ironically, the judge cited a the dismissal of a case that challenged challenging John McCain''s eligibility in his decision:

When it came to Philip Berg’s personal stake in the matter at hand, Surrick compared his action with those of Fred Hollander—the man who, earlier this year, sued Sen. John McCain in New Hampshire on grounds that, born in the Panama Canal Zone, he was not a natural born citizen—and held that Berg’s stake “is no greater and his status no more differentiated than that of millions of other voters.” The harm cited by Berg, Surrick wrote, “is too vague and its effects too attenuated to confer standing on any and all voters.”

I''m sure this isn''t the last of the challenges however.

Sadly, I learned about this via a series of angry messages left on my answering machine about how "you people" (meaning me) should be happy about this and about helping to usher in socialism and blah blah blah.

A message left by my mother.