Okay.. I need to vent a little bit.. - F-ILs

[MelissaSue]

Okay.. so I completely understand that not everyone''s life revolves my wedding.. but could they at least act like they NOTICE that there is going to be a wedding?
My future mother-in-law really is a sweet woman, and she means well. She''s actually probably more helpful than she should be about somethings..

Just sometimes I get so frustrated with her and their family because I just feel like THEY DON''T GET IT.. Like they don''t understand what planning a wedding entails.. She is very concerned with where HER family will stay for the wedding, and what they''re going to do while they''re here.. Which is fine.. but.. I think it might be nice of her to say, give me a copy of the list of people they are going to invite... but she hasn''t. Even though, i''ve been asking for one since JANUARY. Thats something that I kind of need to know, since i"d like to know how many people I''m going to be inviting to my wedding.

So that is kind of an on-going thing.. but then here''s the most recent thing that really upset me. I think it really hurt my feelings more than really making me angry.. but anyway.. So FSIL is a bridesmaid. She''s 19, and is just starting her sophomore year of college... she goes to school about 8 hours away.. She was home for the summer, and I''d been looking forward to her being home for the whole summer, because we really do get along well, and I was hoping she''d be able to help me out with some wedding things, especially picking bridesmaid dresses, which as I''ve shared before.. is a little bit of a nightmare. FMIL used to work for a bridal shop, and while the location has moved, she is still close with her former boss, whom I have met a few times, but I don''t know if she''d recognize me if I just walked into her shop. . so I wanted to go to that dress shop with FMIL and FSIL.to look at bridesmaid dresses, because A) Its nice to have other people opinions when shopping ford dresses and b) they know the woman, so I thought it would be nice to patronize her shop with them.. I had definitely mentioned this to FSIL, and we were both busy for a lot of the summer, she had an internship, was on vacation for a couple weeks.. and I work a very random schedule.. some days, some nights.. But I figured we could go at least once before she went back to school. I didn''t know exactly when she was going back.... I thought maybe this weekend or next week sometime..and she''s been done with her intership a couple weeks ago..
and I had asked FI last week if his sister would go shopping with me sometime this week.. and he said she probalby would.. but apparently he never asked her..and then I had said, even if she can''t go shopping with me, for him to tell her to at least have his mom get her measurements before she went back to school, so we can order dresses in october.. So last night I asked FI if he had told his sister that, and he said "No, but she''s getting up early to leave for school in the morning, so I''ll tell her then.." WHAT!?!? So she left this morning.. No one told me she was going, FI claims he didn''t know (although I''m sure he was told.. ) but I think it would have been nice of them to have called me and told me she was leaving this morning.. to check and see if there was anything I needed her to do before she left.. or so I at least could have said good bye or something. I kind of wanted to get her a gift before she went back to school too.. I don''t know. I don''t expect his sister to realize that it would be nice if she went shopping with me.. but I DO expect his mother to realize it..

I don''t know.. as I"m typing this.. I''m realizing that some of this is my fault for relying on my FI to relay messages and not just doing it myself.. I''m still kind of shy around my future in laws. I''m also realizing some if it is my FIs fault, for NOT relaying them messages, and claiming not to know that his sister was leaving for school today... I''m sure that they told him..
But I still really feel like they could have let me know. I just saw his mother the other day, she could have said.. "by the way, andrea is leaving for school on wednesday.." and then I could have gone shopping with her yesterday, since I had the day off..

I cried last night when FI told me that she was leaving in the morning because I was so offended that no one bothered to tell me.

I know I''m probably overreacting about this..and being a brat.. but I just am sort of frustrated.. because I''m not getting any help from anyone else either.. and I don''t know why.. but I just sort of EXPECTED his family to be the helpful ones..

 

[JessesGrl]

My FMIL did NOT RSVP to my shower...my MOM had to call her. She also said my wedding reception location was a "waste" because it will be dark and no one will be able to see the water anyone. She gave us a guest list in July..wedding is October 1st...plus she added people that we told her we could not invite. My parents are paying for everything even though she and her husband are very wealthy..they are not even having the rehersal dinner....ok now I am venting....
but my advice: It does hurt when people don''t seem "into" it when to a bride, it is something she has been dreaming of FOREVER!!!! People forget that and plus as I have seen...weddings cause DRAMA, they bring out the best and worst in a lot of people.. It will get better, just breathe and think about all the good things

 

[teebee]

Hey MS... I feel ya!! My cousin is my MOH and is also in college, a junior, and while she was home this summer I was hoping I could get her to go shopping and try on a few dresses, even if I couldn''t be there since I''m 2 hours away... But, she was busy and didn''t get to it. I even emailed her each designer, style number, and the store(s) that carried the dresses along w/ the addresses & phone numbers hoping she and my grandma could spend a few hours on a Saturday... Oh well. She''s so laid back and easy going that I think it is more that she doesn''t want ruffle any feathers by expressing a preference, even though I''ve asked her to, so I just picked a dress this week & sent her a pic, told her I think it will look nice & that we will be ordering them in a couple months... This is my side of the family so I was hoping that they''d be a little more proactive, but, I guess since I''ve always been the ultimate organized, overprepared, overachiever type then they figure I''ve got it all under control.

I think that since our wedding date at one point seemed so far away, people like your FI''s family & my family are still kind of operating in that mode and are kinda lackadaisical about the whole thing - and really, when you say you''re wedding is next May, there just isn''t that sense of urgency there because people don''t realize (even if you tell them!!!) that you need to order the dresses in October, or whatnot. Ugh, it is so frustrating!!

I guess, unfortunately, you will probably just have to be a little more of a drill sergeant and tell them when you need their help rather than waiting for them to offer to help or relying on FI to relay messages and information... Although I totally realize how frustrating and disheartening that can be... Good luck...

 

[MelissaSue]

awww- Thank you girls for being so sweet and supportive! I was totally feeling like a bridezilla and was half expecting to be told that.

I have decided I am just going to pick a dress myself at this point.. The only thing is, there are a couple that I want to look at that I haven''t tried on yet, and one that I haven''t even seen in person yet. I kind of wanted someone to come with me, even if I had to try on the gowns myself (FSIL is itty bitty and looks like she''s playing dress up in the sample gowns.).. just to get an opinion.. That and dress shops have a higher tendency to ignore me when I am by myself. I went one day browsing by myself and went to three separate shops including the shop I got my dress from and the most anyone did was point me toward the Bridesmaid dresses.

Teebee - what dress did you pick?!

In case anyone is curious.. here are my finalists.

This one is PROBABLY going to be the dress. Everyone, except my sister (who is an even bigger pain in my butt than FMIL and FSIL) has tried it on.. and even she likes it (i''ve shown her pictures).. Giant boobed bridemaid would wear it with spaghetti straps but the downside is she''d still need a strapless bra. It is $93 from Netbride.com

I am in love with this dress from the pictures.. but its one no one has tried on yet. The only shop that I''ve seen it at is one that is only open 10-5 most days, so its kind of hard to get someone there to try it on with me. Same deal with the opt. spaghetti straps.. Somewhere around $118 from netbride.

I really like this dress as one of the non-spaghetti strap options.. My sister however insists you have to be skinny to wear it (Again, she''s only seen pictures because she is too busy to go shopping with me). I saw it in person, but didn''t try it on, and it didn''t LOOK that form fitting. THe description calls it "Modern A-line" whatever that means. I would like to add a little ribbon to it too.

This is my other non spaghetti strap option. I haven''t been able to find it anywhere..Its after six.. which is actually suprisingly hard to find in shops around here.. the shop where my diress is from seems to have every after six gown BUT this one.. and the other shops just have very random spatterings. I was hoping the shop where FMIL used to work would have it.. again.. i''d like to add a little ribbon.


There are a few other dresses that i''d still consider... but I had lunch yesterday with my two friends that are BMs, and both of them basically just told me to let them know when I picked a dress, so.. it seems like they don''t care that much what they wear.

 

[flopkins]

Awwww MS - I'm sorry things have been so frustrating with the bm dresses.

From reading your post, I just get the impression that you obviously were thinking about going bm dress shopping w/FSIL and FMIL a great deal, but perhaps the importance (symbolically and emotionally) of doing this w/your FILs was not communicated well, for one reason or another.
I think you are hitting the nail on the head when you say yourself you relied on the communication of your FI to your FSIL, and I think from now on, it would be best to simply contact FSIL directly - and along that note, I don't think it was intentional on their parts to not inform you FSIL was returning to school, but sometimes when things are hectic (as I'm sure she was packing last minute etc.. etc..) it probably just slipped their mind!


I think sometimes it's easy to lose sight of the fact that everyone else isn't *quite* as obsessed about every detail of the wedding as we silly brides are... and maybe your own expectations play into it - you expected the FILs to be the 'helpful' ones... and it seems as though that's not the case... at least, so far. I think the best way to get them involved is to talk to your FMIL abt what you wnat help with, and I'm sure if she hears it directly from you, it will have more weight than your FI telling his mom in passing, "oh, btw, MS wants you to give her that guest list.. " (which is kinda how it would go w/my FI

)

ETA: I found that my bm were the same when I tried to discuss dress options w/them. In the end, they were pretty much like, we'll wear whatever you tell us to wear, so just pick something! so... yeah. I did, and now they are!

 

[cutes814]

Hey MS! Sorry to hear about what happened. I know how that feels. It makes you feel left out, esp when you are about to join their family.

We''re here for you whenever you need it!

I like the third dress you posted. Something about it makes it very classy and elegant. Just my thought! Let us know what you decide.

 

[teebee]

MS ~ I like the all the dresses! I really love that second one too - but not seeing it in person would make me a little cautious - but I just love the inverted pleats. I really do think at this point there is nothing wrong at all with just making an executive decision & telling the girls what they get to wear... Since I''ve got my girls spread out between Oklahoma, Utah, and California I decided I''m just going to do the best I can to find a dress that I think will be flattering to all 3 of them and leave it at that... I think we get caught up in our hopes that this will be a kind of fun & idyllic process - spending the day with our friends, having lunch & trying on dresses... and instead it ends up being a battle of wills and huge pain in the a$$!!!

Anyhow, this is what I''ve decided on - it''s a Watters a-line in silk dupioni and we will order it in this color. Just a pet peever here: I wish that all bridal advertisements required the models to STAND UP!!! Sitting models are incredibly aggravating... but, I''ve seen the dress in person and I think it will be perfect (or as perfect as possible!):

 

[MelissaSue]

Teebee - You are AWESOME.. Even when I am cranky you make me laugh.. I''m awfully lucky to have such an awesome date twin

Which reminds me does anyone visit UltimateWedding.com? Seriously.. some of the STRANGEST girls I''ve ever met. They''re not bitchy like knotties are.. but they all seem to be snotty..have a little attitude.. and VERY bridezilla-ish. There is one girl there who insists on putting her cat in a tuxedo and wearing fairy wings with her dress. and no.. I couldn''t make that up.. and there is a very high percentage of girls on that UltimateWedding too that are planning weddings like 3 years in advance..
Well anyway my point was.. there is like monthly forums for each month.. and the girls in the May 2006 board.. YIKES.. I thought it would be fun to find date twins.. but they''re all freaking NUTSO..

Your BM dresses are lovely. I like watters gowns A LOT but they are a little more than I really want my girls to spend.
Here''s your dresses standing up.. so everyone can see. just not in dupioni.. this is supposed to be satin or something

They''re very pretty.. i like the fabric pleating or whatever it is..

I HAVE seen that second dress I posted in person, just not ON a person.. only on the hanger. I think I''m gonna go back tomorrow by myself in the morning and try on that one, and go to Jeff''s mom''s old store as well and see if I can''t find that After six gown.. The two shops are right down the road from one another (but not terribly close to my house, or on my normal path of travel) and have the same hours.. And I''ll just try the dresses on myself. Thats what mirrors are for, right?

 

[onedrop]

Hi Melissa: that last dress you posted (is it Teebees''s BM dress?) is awesome!!

As for your BM dresses I like the first one you posted. The brown and pink contrast is really cute, and it seems like that style of dress could work for any body type. I am in a wedding in a month and I wish the bride had picked ANY of the dresses you posted. I HATE the dress we are wearing but that''s a thread for another day.

I don''t think you are bridezilla at all!!! It''s totally understandable that you would be frustrated when you are trying to get something important done, like pick BM dresses. Hang in there.

 

[Tybee]

Oh MelissaSue-
It''s too bad that others can''t read our minds. I think I would have cried too--but don''t be too hard on the in-laws, like Flopkins said, they just don''t know.
On the other hand. We are always here to listen (I mean read!) So vent away. No bridezilla are you, just someone who cares enough to try to pick out dresses that make ALL her bridesmaids happy. There''s a lot to be said for that!
Thanks for sharing the frustrations with us, though, it helps me keep things in perspective..I''m sure to expect a bucket of my own tears down the line (I''m such a crybaby!)

 

[JessesGrl]

That dress w/the little train like detail in the back is GORGEOUS!!!!!!!

 

[MelissaSue]

onedrop and tybee - Thank you all again for being sooo sweet and helpful! I know I can always count on you P.S. girls. What would I do with out pricescope?!

Onedrop - you can''t tell us about an awful BM dress and then not tell us about it! Not fair!

Tybee - I''m a crybaby too! I cry over EVERYTHING. I haven''t had too many wedding-related cries yet.. but its still early!

 

[MelissaSue]

Date: 8/17/2005 9:27:09 PM
Author: JessesGrl
That dress w/the little train like detail in the back is GORGEOUS!!!!!!!

JessesGirl- I know. I really like that dress too. Do you think you need to be skinny to wear it? Thats what my sister says. I suspect she is wrong though.

 

[onedrop]

LOL Melissa: Okay here goes...the bride (I LOVE her to death) has very different taste than mine,in men clothes, etc. but we are really really close so I want to just go along with the program.

She went looking for her dress and in the process saw a BM dress that she liked.

Brief descrip: Long...champagne colored....it's that kind of wrinkly material (i don't know what it's called)...with a v-neck and diamond accents at the v. I'll see if I can find a pic on the web. It's soooooo formal and gaudy and so not me, and I told everyone that, but it's her wedding....



ETA: Couldn't find a picture on the web, but trust me...not good!

 

[cutes814]

I really like that dress too. Do you think you need to be skinny to wear it? Thats what my sister says. I suspect she is wrong though.
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I don''t think you have to be skinny to wear it. It doesn''t look too form fitting. There seems to be some wiggle room in the belly area even. I for one love that dress!

 

[kaschmir]

hi MelissaSue,

i am sorry to hear you were so frustrated... i can totally relate to that. it is good that we have a place to vent here. i absolutely do not think you were a brat or anything. i know how frustrating it can be when you try to do your very best preparing and organizing but people don't seem to cooperate.

i think taking care of stuff yourself (like making appointments concerning stuff you want to do) instead of leaving it to your fi is a good idea. even fis sometimes do not seem to understand how important / urgent / deadline-related some things are... i just remember how i got into more than one argument with my fi when all he would say is something like "i don't know why you are so tense / stressed / whatnot, there are still four six to get it all done" when i felt we had to take care of something like two weeks ago!

fortunately it got better during the last couple of weeks - after all, we are getting married in less than two weeks!!!

can't your fi deal with his mum's guest list? after all, they are family and a situation like this is delicate for you to handle as you don't know them all that well yet. he could remind her in a friendly way that you have been telling her you needed the guestlist since the beginning of this year, and you would finally need it by date xyz because of planning issues. just let him set her a deadline and come up with two good reasons why this is so just in case she should ask. let him find a friedly yet firm way to get this over with.

people that are not as involved as the bride tend to feel that there is still soooo much time along the way, that they just procrastinate. happens ALL the time. they don't mean it. but with some things that are really important you just can't let that happen to you.

about the bm dresses - i LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the one with the little train in the back that looks like a bustle. it is sooo gorgeous. i don't think it would work only on very slim bms. in moh a deeper v-neck is more becoming than a strapless neckline even for not stick thin women as it elongates and creates vertical lines rather than horizontal lines. unless you buy it super-tight, it should look good. and i totally agree with teebee: that situation CALLS for an executive decision. they have all had a fair chance to get involved into the decision. either they'll accept your choice, and if there should be complaints, set ONE date where you'll make that decision together. if that should not work --> everyone has to go with your choice.

regards,
kaschmir

 

[diamondfan]

Melissa, you are not wrong to be sensitive. This is one of the most important days in the world for you. Just know, and I hate to be a party pooper, just know PEOPLE DO NOT CHANGE. I waited around (married 15 years and STILL waiting) for my in laws to change...finally changed MY expectations. I went through crap at my wedding, then, pregnant with my first my dh nudged me to let his mom "feel part of things" which for her, meant bossing me around, trying to get me to change all my choices for the baby room, insulting the names we liked etc...so I stopped "involving" her so I would not have to strangle her. Just realize that there are always people who try your patience...(sometimes in your family, I too have a pain in the rear sister). I am not very religious but did pray a lot to give me guidance about how I felt and reacted to them. I realized I was always hurting and getting upset, but once I just decided to go about my business and ignore as much as I could, it helped a bit. "Well, Andrea, I am sorry you are not happy with your dress...I tried to take you shopping but you were too busy, so I had to go ahead and choose. I am sure you will look great in it on my wedding day" (translated: it is your fault you did not come and give input, so shut up and wear it, the day is NOT about you). And, by the way, do you really want so many opinions when I am sure you know what it is you want them to look like? You cannot please all people and I am sure you would rather pick the color and style that you think works best for all the bridesmaids, and call it a day...easier on your sanity for sure! Good luck, chant a calming phrase and think a happy thought! Your day will be here and gone before you can blink!

 

[msb700]

MS: so sorry to hear about ur frustration! but u are not a bridezilla or a brat, ur just expressing ur feelings..and u have a rite to feel that way..my SIL had no ''intention'' of helping me pick out her dress or even bothered with the shopping..she basically said '' i dont care, do watever u want, but then proceeded to give me a list of things she doesnt like!'' not the most helpful thing in the world!

anyhow, i realize this must be frustrating, but dont let it get to u ...in the end of the day, its ur wedding, ur pictures, ur party and ur life...just concentrate on the happy parts and dont let these things get u down. u have tried to be helpful and involve them in the process and selecting their dresses, but if they dont try to help out and dont give u the time of day, then they are stuck wearing whatever it is *YOU* decide on..

That being said, i really like the first dress u posted and thing it would suit all...as for ur friend who needs a strapless bra, if she can''t find one she likes, how bout just changing the straps of ur regular bra with one of those ''see thru'' straps...? im not a big fan of those though as they somehow tend to ''shine'' in pictures when the flash reflects off of them..unless ur BM''s are wearing their hair down then it mite not be an issue??

I can see how the ''Modern A-line'' dress mite not be very flattering. the little gathering in the back mite accentuate parts that ppl would rather keep under wraps!

wish u the best of luck and im sure everything will turn out perfect !

 

[JessesGrl]

I don''t think you need to be super skinny..it might accentuate a larger behind since the detail in the area but it looks like it would be flattering. one of My future sister''s in law is a "big" girl...all my other bm''s are a size 2. This was a big dilemma, she is only 15 and I did not want her to feel uncomfortable in a dress. I let my bm''s pick the dress and the all wanted a dress that she felt horrible in. The majority won out....but when it came in in her size, it looked fine. I think when people squeeze into the sample size to try a dress on it makes them look and feel awful. Most dresses can look pretty good on everyone if it fit''s right.

 

[rfath]

TeeBee!

Oi! That''s the dress I''m using for my bridesmaids (though they''re wearing it in the walnut beige, my sister tried it on and took pics of it in the snapdragon)! Great choice!

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MS - So sorry to hear about the frustrations with the F-IL''s... It''s a horrible feeling when you try to make it very obvious how important something is, but no one seems to listen.

 

[MelissaSue]

Hey all - thanks for all the input. I''m definitely going to pick the dress on my own.. and it honestly was never a matter of getting SIL''s opinion, because she is one of those people that can wear whatever. I just sort of wanted to someone to shop with! My mom can go with me sometimes, but not today.. but I''m going to go to at least a couple shops today. My SWEET SWEET FI even offered to go with me tomorrow afternoon because we are both off of work. have I mentioned I LOVE him? I didn''t really want to bore him with all of that.. but there is one shop where I know the dress with the train is, and its not near the other two, so if I don''t make it there today, I might take him there with me tomorrow.

diamondfan - I know people don''t change.. and it if there was anyone who I DIDN''T expect to change its FMIL.. She''s very stubborn and set in her ways. I think that at some point FSIL WILL grow up though. Right now she is very much still under the influence of her mother. It probably won''t be before the wedding.. but at some point, she''s going to have to stop relying on her mother for everything. Honestly, FI was kind of the same way (although his sister has always been closer with their mom than he is).. when we started dating, but he''s managed to become his own person. I don''t really know exactly what the point is about all of this.. I guess the point is, for whatever reason.. I am seeing this as being FMIL''s doing.. because she is still very much in charge of FSILs life..

LOL at JessesGirl and MSB - I never really thought of the behind area. My sister was saying it was too fitted through the waist.. but so is everything on a size 0 model.

My sister, by the way, is the only one that is going to tell me that she doesn''t like whatever dress I pick despite the fact that she is the only one who NEVER visited a dress shop with me. FSIL isn''t gonna say anything.. at least not to me.. Maybe her and FMIL will talk behind my back.. but they are at least polite enough to not tell me they hate my decisions to my face. I guess its different with my own sister.... she changed my diapers.. Its sort of more acceptable for her to be a b*tch.. lol.. She still aggravates me though.. Thank GOD for my friends. They are far away, but at least they can keep me sane via email!

 

[cutes814]

MS,

Don''t forget to let us know what you decide!

 

[MelissaSue]

Okay. So I just took a little dress shopping trip. I didn''t have terribly good luck. Turns out the shop that FIs mom used to work for is actually permanently closed (they could have mentioned that to me too, you think? especially since I know that his mom and his sister had lunch with the owners on sunday).. So still no luck finding the after six dress (this one)

Then I went to the shop that is nearby there that I knew had this dress

Its just way too much dress. I think it actually needs a crinoline.. which I am certainly not going to make my bridesmaids wear. It was very heavy, and since the shop didn''t have A/C in the fitting rooms, it became obvious fairly quickly that it would be HOT on any sort of a warm day. I also tried on a few other dresses, another Jordan and two watters gowns, but none of them were "the dress".. Two of them were empire waisted, or at least had a line where an empire waist would be.. so my friends boobs just weren''t gonna fit in those, and the other one was more of a natural waist, but the band of color (what would be black) was VERY thick and it looks like it just draws too much attention to that area.
Finally I went to the shop where I ordered my dress from.. And they had this dress

I really like it. It IS slim through the waist area. The sample was a size 6, which fit me pretty much perfectly, and it was snug through my belly area, but I have a VERY large waist for the rest of me,(when they measured me for my dress, my bust and hips were a size 6 and my waist was a size 10) and although it was a little tighter than I''d like, I didn''t feel uncomfortable in it.. I actually felt pretty skinny! And according to Jordan''s size chart, my waist is between a size 8-10 so its not really suprising that the 6 fit my waist snugly.. I think once its in everybodys right size, it will be very pretty and flattering. The question I have for you ladies is...
Would a ribbon look DUMB on this dress? I''d just get a thin one and it''d obviously tie in the front, but is that too much going on with the train and the ribbon? Or do you think that it would take away from the pretty simplicity of this dress? I guess I don''t NEED to have a ribbon..

So that was my progress today. I think I will still try to locate that last dress, but I don''t know how much luck I''ll have!

 

[cutes814]

I think the ribbon will be a bit much. I like the simplicity of the way it looks in front and then BAM! when they turn around, that dress is bangin''!

 

[jlc0604]

MS -

I love the train dress!

I think it would look better without the ribbon. The elaborate back plus the ribbon in front might be too much. Who makes this dress?

 

[teebee]

I do love that dress MS!! But yeah, I think that a ribbon would be too much - it has such nice lines & such a beautiful bustle-like feature that to me, the ribbon would distract from those things. I know that it is kinda hard to not go with a ribbon since that is the image you have had in your mind for so long... Oh and thanks for the ''standing up'' pics, very helpful!!

rfath ~ I''m so glad to find someone else that is using that dress! Do you have any ''real life'' pics of it?

 

[MelissaSue]

JLC- Its a Jordan Dress, style 446.

I think I agree with all of you on the ribbon issue. The dress is so pretty on its own. I think that maybe I''ll show the two dresses, that one and the strapless one with the black trim on top and the bow to all the girls and see how they feel about both of them. Probably won''t get me very far, because I know just thinking about it that my sister will say she likes the strapless, and my best friend will say she like the v-neck..

 

[onedrop]

Melissa! I also like the last one you posted today. It''s really cute and I like the train. Hopefully it will flatter all of the girls'' figures.

 

[Tybee]

I like what Milly said, "That dres is bangin!"
I agree...it looks super flattering. It''s the type of dress I''d love to try on. I hope your BM''s like it.
(I agree with no ribbon.)
Tybee

 

[JessesGrl]

That dress is so pretty!!!! I like it A LOT..I regret not getting a BM dress w/train/detailing like that in the back : good choices...

I was a pushover bride, my BM''s vetoed my choices and picked the dress AND color, I felt sooooo bullied!!! But now I love what they chose!