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Oval ruby ring: HELP!

caribbeanbridetobe said:
In that case, I am ok with Yellow Gold instead of RG

I want a ruby that is not treated at all (if possible) I'm aware that might hike up the price.
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OP wrote it here.
 
I know you said oval ruby, but I really love this for a right hand ring. And if they accepted $1000 it would be a STEAL.

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LilAlex said:
I know we try to be supportive on this forum but if I go on a car forum and say I'm looking for a late-model, low-miles, all-original, one-owner Ferrari -- and I have $10K to spend -- it's more helpful if someone says "You have Miata money" than if they share their Ferrari-buying tips, imo.

By definition, any ruby meeting the OP's criteria will be: a) terrible; or b) grossly misrepresented. With that price threshold, you are pretty much restricting your search to only unscrupulous vendors. Better to get a $1,000 mall-ring and not ask any questions about the "ruby."

Also, for a consumer not in the trade, custom-sourcing stones and custom-making rings is for the well-off. Or for people with incredibly esoteric needs that can not be met on the vintage market (Jedi spinel, cobalt spinel, etc., etc.) You will spend a quarter as much with a vintage piece. (I've done both, multiple times.)

If it must be ruby and it must be nice, I would start with some good vintage sites (Lang comes to mind), select all ruby gemstone rings, and sort on price from low to high.
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I am in agreement that her requirement is more than most likely she can accomplish for her budget.

however if she has said it’s a “birthstone ring” and your advise it to get a stone that isn’t her birthstone, I don’t think that’s necessary helpful.

if she said “I want a red stone” - maybe spinel- but a nice true red spinel in a rose gold setting would be hard to accomplish at this task too.
 
voce said:
Did OP ever say untreated? Or are we making assumptions? I think heat with clarity treatment is as close as she can get if she still wants money left in the budget for a ring.
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She has, yes.
though it’s unclear if she thinks treatment makes the stone look milky or ugly. I can’t tell by some of the last comments.
 
Not an oval but an option
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Niel said:
however if she has said it’s a “birthstone ring” and your advise it to get a stone that isn’t her birthstone, I don’t think that’s necessary helpful.
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If spinel is good enough for the Crown Jewels, it's probably good enough for the OP. Friend/family has red spinel instead of ruby as July birthstone ring. It's not like your SSN -- there is no law about which one you must use. There is no magical power of the birthstone. If it brings one great joy to wear an ugly birthstone ring vs. an attractive alternative, then the OP is under no obligation to take my suggestion.

I could see if it was someone else's birthstone -- spouse, child, beloved deceased relative.

Anyway, there is not gonna be a lot of ruby in that $1,000 1-ct ruby anyway.
 
LilAlex said:
If spinel is good enough for the Crown Jewels, it's probably good enough for the OP. Friend/family has red spinel instead of ruby as July birthstone ring. It's not like your SSN -- there is no law about which one you must use. There is no magical power of the birthstone. If it brings one great joy to wear an ugly birthstone ring vs. an attractive alternative, then the OP is under no obligation to take my suggestion.

I could see if it was someone else's birthstone -- spouse, child, beloved deceased relative.

Anyway, there is not gonna be a lot of ruby in that $1,000 1-ct ruby anyway.
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It’s bad advise to tell her the one thing meaningful about her ring should change. Doesn’t matter if your “Friends Have spinel” or if the Crown Jewels are spinel.
I’m sorry if it hurts your feelings for someone to question your advice.

and it doesn’t matter if you see why it’s important to the op or not.
 
Niel said:
It’s bad advise to tell her the one thing meaningful about her ring should change. Doesn’t matter if your “Friends Have spinel” or if the Crown Jewels are spinel.
I’m sorry if it hurts your feelings for someone to question your advice.

and it doesn’t matter if you see why it’s important to the op or not.
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My feelings aren't hurt -- I'm just baffled by the presence of a third-party advice grader on just this one thread. Cheers! Over and out.
 
General ruby/spinel question for CSers- why is it advised to not set rubies and spinels in rose gold?
I saw the NSC (just browsing, I promise) had a beautiful pink sapphire center stone set in a two tone and was considering setting my own spinel in a similar two tone setting with the center stone in rose gold.
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Few ruby and spinel look good in RG.
 
OP- did you opt for any of these?
 
soxfan said:
OP- did you opt for any of these?
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Good evening, I have 2 options that I’m going for now. A little grandiose (I may have changed my opinion)

What say you all? Both can be in YG/RG
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Both of these are genuine untreated rubies & not lab created (confirmed with both jewelers)
 
The bottom ruby looks better to me, more transparency and a brighter color. You did well to downsize rather than sacrifice on other stats.
 
Definitely 1. I like the look of 2 better but the photos on 2 look like they could be in a light box. So the second stone could be all sorts of brown in reality. Otherwise try to get less stylized photos out of them. As a guiding principal if it looks like it belongs in a magazine it's likely it has little to do with reality.

Did you ask about surface reaching or distracting black spot inclusions? Also try to get a feeling for ruby dimensions -- make sure you get depth as well as width and length (so you can discard any pancake stones. Doesn't have to be 100% precise to get a feeling for this.).
 
It doesn't look like the inclusions in 2 are surface reaching, and I don't think that they are distracting. You probably won't see the black inclusions in real life, as the photos are magnified.
 
I like diamond #1 too except just debating for yellow gold or red gold
 
Jeweler just contacted me and said diamond #1 is a natural, heated ruby. I showed my friend who is also a jewelry enthusiast & she said it looks like a "garnet" :confused: thoughts? Now I'm skeptical :cry2:
 
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Diamonds are not rubies. It's up to you how much your friend's opinion matters to you. Enthusiast does not mean expert, and without a bigger budget and a lab report from AGL, GIA, GRS, or Lotus, you can only guess and cannot be certain. By you, I mean any of us on PriceScope. You need the requisite equipment to be sure what you have is as the vendor described, because it's impossible to tell the ruby's treatment just by pictures.

Ruby engagement rings that are of verifiable quality will cost you at least $5k for a 1 ct, so you are at the seller's mercy at your office point.
 
voce said:
Diamonds are not rubies. It's up to you how much your friend's opinion matters to you. Enthusiast does not mean expert, and without a bigger budget and a lab report from AGL, GIA, GRS, or Lotus, you can only guess and cannot be certain. By you, I mean any of us on PriceScope. You need the requisite equipment to be sure what you have is as the vendor described, because it's impossible to tell the ruby's treatment just by pictures.

Ruby engagement rings that are of verifiable quality will cost you at least $5k for a 1 ct, so you are at the seller's mercy at your office point.
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oh this is not a 1ct ruby by far! But I see what you are saying.
 
voce said:
It doesn't look like the inclusions in 2 are surface reaching, and I don't think that they are distracting. You probably won't see the black inclusions in real life, as the photos are magnified.
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Yes at that size and level of translucency it probably will be irrelevant at 6 inches whether it is included or not.

I think your friend is remarking on the fact that there is some brown in the stone. Not a spectral red. But at the price point that's hard to avoid basically.


Can check if these two are fluorescent with the sellers. One of the problems with garnets is they can shift colour radically (and unappealingly) in indoor nightime lighting. Ruby should be less susceptible to that. And some fluorescence will make it come alive more in the sun, and can make it hold its colour better at night.
 
If the seller has more than one of the same ring available, I would also ask the seller to confirm that the stone shown in their photos is the exact same stone that you will receive.

(I think one of the rings pictured might be for sale on Etsy in a quantity of more than one)
 
Did you buy a ring? I found two this morning on IG at Fetheray.com.
I know they're in the UK, both rings are early 20th century, the rubies are really pretty with sparkling old cut diamonds and butter gold with great detail.
 
voce said:
Did OP ever say untreated? Or are we making assumptions? I think heat with clarity treatment is as close as she can get if she still wants money left in the budget for a ring.
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I want a ruby that is not treated at all (if possible) I'm aware that might hike up the price.
 
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