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Pave with cubiz zirconia or similar: Is it a thing?

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Behacad

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I clearly see the benefits of having a real diamond as the main stone in a ring (e.g., brilliance, durability, emotional value). That being said, I would argue that most people cannot tell the difference between a real diamond and a good simulator. Moreover, it seems unlikely that most people (perhaps even most people with a decent eye) would be able to differentiate between a real diamond and a simulator when the stones are on a pave, which are quite small.

I don't know if I am interested in pursuing this route, but I thought I would ask: Do people ever use diamond simulators (e.g., CZ) to create a pave, while having a real diamond as the centre stone?

How much money would you save? Is a decent pave around 1k+?

Any significant disadvantages that I may not be considering?
 
You would have the same problems with cz pavé that you would with a cz center stone. That said, we are not permitted to discuss cz and other diamond simulants here. This may be a question for another forum whose members could help you out. Personally all I will say is that I would not recommend it for durability reasons.
 
Oh, I did not know discussion of simulators was not allowed. Reading the rules over (again, of course) clearly demonstrates I am in the wrong. My apologize. If anyone has any feedback that does not explicitly break this rule somehow, please let me know. Perhaps someone can let me know if they or someone they know have tried it, and the outcomes.
 
I have acquaintances who have gone that route and ended up sorely disappointed, as such stones are much more likely to become damaged over time. Side stones take quite a beating, and you want something that is durable and will be long lasting. It is commonly accepted that pave set stones will occasionally need to be replaced, and you would have difficulty finding a jeweler who would work on a ring or band that does not have stones at least as hard as sapphire, or at the very least natural stones. In the long run, it isn't worth the money and you will be much happier with the end product if you choose diamonds. They are much more durable, easier to replace when needed, and all jewelers work with them.
 
Thanks.

As a side note, how likely is it that a pave band will lose a diamond in a 25 year span? 90%?
 
Behacad|1358775998|3360841 said:
I clearly see the benefits of having a real diamond as the main stone in a ring (e.g., brilliance, durability, emotional value). That being said, I would argue that most people cannot tell the difference between a real diamond and a good simulator. Moreover, it seems unlikely that most people (perhaps even most people with a decent eye) would be able to differentiate between a real diamond and a simulator when the stones are on a pave, which are quite small.

I don't know if I am interested in pursuing this route, but I thought I would ask: Do people ever use diamond simulators (e.g., CZ) to create a pave, while having a real diamond as the centre stone?

How much money would you save? Is a decent pave around 1k+?

Any significant disadvantages that I may not be considering?
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BAD IDEA!!!! Do not do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When, not if, a stone is damaged or lost from the pave it is nearly impossible to replace without breaking more stones since you can not heat the metal up to build new beads. When you take a torch to the pave portion, well, let's just say the results are not pretty.

We have always refused to do pave with CZ's and the many that I have seen come in for repairs over the years have only further convinced me that doing so is a really really bad idea.

Wink
 
With a typical pave job, the labor to build it is as much or more than the cost of the stones. Often it's quite a bit more. As Wink points out above, repairs, which are also mostly about labor, are more difficult with CZ and consequently more expensive, not less. I agree with the above, don't do it.
 
Thank you for your advice. Just to be clear I am not thinking of doing it, I was mostly just curious. I suppose 20 pave diamonds are not cheap, but replacing one is pretty cheap (excluding labor). If you add the problems associated with CZ, it could become quite the hassle.
 
Behacad|1358784659|3360922 said:
Thank you for your advice. Just to be clear I am not thinking of doing it, I was mostly just curious. I suppose 20 pave diamonds are not cheap, but replacing one is pretty cheap (excluding labor). If you add the problems associated with CZ, it could become quite the hassle.
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What is your budget for your pave setting? You may be able to find one fairly in budget.
 
I'm not positive that I want a pave setting, although its fairly possible. I have seen several that are within budget (1k-2.5k). At this point I am just trying to educate myself. I might actually know what type of ring she really wants in the weeks to come.
 
Oh ok. James allen and gabriel and co have diamond bands under 1k :)
 
I suppose I should specify. I am looking for a petite split shank band similar to the one associated with Tiffany's lucida, which makes things slightly more complicated. I don't think JA has one of those, although I wish he did.
 
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