pawn store diamond advice...2.55 round brilliant j/k is1/is2

[RockHugger]

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I don't think it's unethical at all to sell an ugly diamond at a profit. I buy diamonds cheap from Locals and pawnshops, then flip them on eBay all the time and make good money (good diamonds and lower quality ones). As long as it's represented as it really is.

I purchased a 2.5 ct I3 for $50.00. It looked like a chewed up lump of coffee. I had it set in a stud, and sold it for 300.0o on eBay. All fully represented and honest, and even had a video of it.

There are people out there who can't afford a 2.5 ct diamond for 30k. They are perfectly happy with a I3 stone, just because it's big.

As far as pawn shops selling on eBay if they could, Have you ever seen the diamond stock of a pawn shop? Usually it's hundreds of cts. It would take forever to list these stones online, so for a pawnshop in this economy, it's easier to just sell at a small profit or recoup their money from a failed loan.

 

[Gypsy]

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When you are considering buying a cheap, ugly diamond and reselling it on eBay, I don't think it is an ethical thing to do. People do it all the time, but it doesn't make it right. I do like your idea for a business, however, MDS. It seems you have found your calling. Very funny post

Here I'm going to side with the OP. Big, cheap, real diamonds have a viable market just like anything else. Just because you don't want it doesn't mean that no one else does, and as long as it's not being misrepresented in the sale, I see no problem with it. If she can make a profit on the deal by buying in one marketplace and selling in another, I call it good business. My doubts have to do with whether it can really sell for $400 on ebay without misrepresentation. That depends on what it really is, how it's advertised, and who is shopping for what that week. At least around here, pawnbrokers are a pretty savvy bunch and if they can get more on ebay than they can get in their showroom, that's exactly what they do. Everybody makes mistakes but I would take the fact that they're selling it for $150 as a bad sign, especially for easy to sell items like scrap gold (again, assuming that this applies).

That is my point, Neil. There is a discussion going on about how she can make money from selling this stone at a profit. My question is the same as yours. Can she sell it without misrepresenting it? I don't know and neither does she, yet she is receiving advice about price points. We don't even know if it is a diamond. It could be kryptonite. This particular deal doesn't sound kosher to me.

I agree. I don't see how you can honestly market that thing short of listing the carat weight, the gold karat weight. And some pics with text saying that the pics are part of the description and that all sales are final unless there is gross misrepresentation.

 

[risingsun]

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Rockhugger~you and I have different ideas about what is ethical. I have seen too many people get burned buying poor goods on eBay, because they didn't know any better. Many people do not understand what frozen spit is and will jump at the chance to get a bargain on a diamond. Unless you tell them straight out that the diamond is an ugly, included rock, which doesn't sparkle, you are not representing the stone accurately, IMO.

 

[RockHugger]

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If someone sees beauty in a low quality rock, then they see beauty.
I don't ever say 'this is the prettiest diamond on earth' or some language like that, but comment that it is a large diamond of so and so clarity.

Many people don't think small .25ct diamonds are valuable, yet stores sell them for 500$. Just because many people see them as invaluable should the sales person come out and say 'this is one tiny diamond and it is not worth the 500$.'

Disclosure goes so far, and at some point becomes subjective. There is no such thing as subjective disclosure as a sales person, because it is not my place to decide what someone sees as beauty and worth their money.

 

[Gypsy]

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Rockhugger~you and I have different ideas about what is ethical. I have seen too many people get burned buying poor goods on eBay, because they didn't know any better. Many people do not understand what frozen spit is and will jump at the chance to get a bargain on a diamond. Unless you tell them straight out that the diamond is an ugly, included rock, which doesn't sparkle, you are not representing the stone accurately, IMO.

Yup.

Sorry Rock Hugger I'm reading your post above and all I am thinking is I need taller boots. It stinks. There's the letter and the spirit. You can say your listings are ethical to the letter. But the spirit is... not. You are taking advantage of someone's desperation and thier ignorance.

When I do things I do a gut check. If I have to talk myself into loops to justify things and to make them SOUND okay. They aren't okay. The right decision, the correct one is the one you don't have to screw yourself up into knots justifying. It's the one that your gut agrees with right off the bat.

And this isn't it.

The "It's subjective" arguement is just justification. It's not truth. The truth is... it's actually an objective thing. Right and wrong. If these were diamond brokers you were selling to... people in the trade who SHOULD know better. Okay. But to some poor idiot off the street. Sorry, not buying it.

 

[risingsun]

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If someone sees beauty in a low quality rock, then they see beauty.
I don't ever say 'this is the prettiest diamond on earth' or some language like that, but comment that it is a large diamond of so and so clarity.

Many people don't think small .25ct diamonds are valuable, yet stores sell them for 500$. Just because many people see them as invaluable should the sales person come out and say 'this is one tiny diamond and it is not worth the 500$.'

Disclosure goes so far, and at some point becomes subjective. There is no such thing as subjective disclosure as a sales person, because it is not my place to decide what someone sees as beauty and worth their money.

If someone sees beauty in a low quality rock it may be because they don't know any better. They haven't been educated about diamonds. You are posting on a diamond board where we take the quality of diamonds very seriously. You can rationalize all you like, but selling schlock and making a profit from it is nothing I would take pride in. We try to educate people [on PS] about finding high quality gems, not how to make a buck off of a sucker. I'm joining Gypsy and putting on my waders. It's getting mighty deep in here.

 

[RockHugger]

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So selling someone a 2.5 ct diamond to someonee who can't afford one otherwise, with full disclosure of clarity and color, microscopic photos and video, with a 7 day return policy encouraging the buyer to have it checked out is wrong?

Not only that, I send each of my customers a full GIA cut/color/clarity printout with any diamond purchase.

If these people can log onto eBay, they can do a quick search for diamonds for basic research. And if they dont like what they get, they get a refund. And by the way, I do sell to jewelry stores. And they have had no problem purchasing a diamond or stone from me when I am charging 1/2 of the price.

There is a market for everything. And there are a lot of people out there who want a big stone and could care less about clarity. Just because the folks on PS frown at less then si stones, doesn't mean there are not people who would be happy with them.

Take a look at mall stores all over the us, and price out an i3 2.5 ct, then tell me selling one for 300 is 'morally wrong'.


ETA: and the best thing about eBay and buying diamonds in general is : if you don't like the stone you dont have to buy it.

 

[sushi]

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Ok this is interesting, I never expected to create an ethical debate, which was not my intention, however I think its always fascinating when they do arise.

First of all, I havent a clue when it comes to diamonds, I of course like them, or I wouldn't be here, but novice would be an understatement. When I first posted the question, I was under the impression it was worth a lot more money, so in fact I thought I had found a bargain. I looked on bluenile etc, and the price looked like it should be about $12k (which I now gather I am SERIOUSLY mistaken). I figured if even if it was worth 1k i would make money.

I have and had no intention of conning or cheating anyone! That said this is where I think the ethical debate is interesting. If I do manage to pay $160 dollars for it, and I place it when all the knowledge I know about it, describing it is ugly, frozen spit, or however you would choose to describe its 'charm', and someone decides to buy it, then I dont see what is ethically wrong about that. It I tried to list it as a fabulous huge bargain rock, then yes I believe that is wrong. I don't see the problem in selling a bad quality stone, if that is what it is. In fact, as ugly as it is, you could probably create a really interesting really modern piece of fun jewellery!

I know that most people here are die hard diamond experts and fans, (i am the latter, but a non-knowledgeable one..), and I do appreciate that may be considered blasphemous to allow the public to even be aware of such inferior goods, however not everyone can afford or even see the point of paying more. I know I would pay thousands of dollars on a Chanel handbag, but many others would say I was mad, and would only buy one in Target.

Anyway, thats my 10cents. I probably wont buy it, as I cant be bothered to go through the whole process of buying something, having it shipped to me, listing it, then sending it, just to possibly make a few hundred or nothing. I really thought it was worth more...

But thank you all for the input.

 

[Sniven]

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risingsun and gypsy: I am curious as to how you came to personally meet all of rockhuggers ebay customers. You must be pretty close to them to know they are ignorant and desperate when it comes to diamonds just because they might buy an
'ugly" diamond.

I recall recently a regular PS poster was looking for an "ugly" diamond around 1 carat for under $100 to give to her son as an educational toy/collectible for Christmas...how ignorant! Oh and I guess Wink was unethical in selling it to her as well.

I can dig up the link if you want.

What if rockhugger put up a "4 C's" tutorial on every listing would that appease your "guts" and make her an ethical seller?

 

[RockHugger]

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Rockhugger~you and I have different ideas about what is ethical. I have seen too many people get burned buying poor goods on eBay, because they didn't know any better. Many people do not understand what frozen spit is and will jump at the chance to get a bargain on a diamond. Unless you tell them straight out that the diamond is an ugly, included rock, which doesn't sparkle, you are not representing the stone accurately, IMO.

Yup.

Sorry Rock Hugger I'm reading your post above and all I am thinking is I need taller boots. It stinks. There's the letter and the spirit. You can say your listings are ethical to the letter. But the spirit is... not. You are taking advantage of someone's desperation and thier ignorance.

When I do things I do a gut check. If I have to talk myself into loops to justify things and to make them SOUND okay. They aren't okay. The right decision, the correct one is the one you don't have to screw yourself up into knots justifying. It's the one that your gut agrees with right off the bat.

And this isn't it.

The "It's subjective" arguement is just justification. It's not truth. The truth is... it's actually an objective thing. Right and wrong. If these were diamond brokers you were selling to... people in the trade who SHOULD know better. Okay. But to some poor idiot off the street. Sorry, not buying it.

Please choose your words better. Calling someone a poor idiot because they decide to purchase something you find inferior, is way out of line. I can't believe that was even said.

 

[sonnyjane]

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Ok this is interesting, I never expected to create an ethical debate, which was not my intention, however I think its always fascinating when they do arise.

First of all, I havent a clue when it comes to diamonds, I of course like them, or I wouldn't be here, but novice would be an understatement. When I first posted the question, I was under the impression it was worth a lot more money, so in fact I thought I had found a bargain. I looked on bluenile etc, and the price looked like it should be about $12k (which I now gather I am SERIOUSLY mistaken). I figured if even if it was worth 1k i would make money.

Avoiding the drama, I'll just address this part. You cannot compare the stone that you found with things that you searched on BlueNile. The truth is, BlueNile would not sell that stone. The stone you found online may indeed weigh that much, and it might even be a J or K, but does the listing call it an IS1 stone? IS1 isn't even a clarity grading. If it is a typo of SI1, then it's a lie. If they just made up a grading, then it's a fraud. It is most likely at least an I3 in my opinion, but the term "frozen spit" that others are using is even better. Further more, it's not certified, so take what the seller is calling it and knock it down a few notches at best. In other words, you can't compare values for what is posted because what is posted is not correct. I wouldn't buy it, and furthermore I wouldn't consider buying it, then re-selling it.

 

[sushi]

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Oh dear. For the record, I think it is out of order to be rude to Rock Hugger. I may be a novice, but I think she is being totally transparent and honest when she sells things. She is saying exactly what the product is, so why is that unethical? Plus she is offering a return policy, which a lot of sellers dont. Plus, if you are buying items off the internet, you have all the information on the internet at your disposal. Anyone can research online prices for comparisons, and read up on the 4'cs etc if they need or want to, or even ask experts like you in forums like this.

There may be a lady that would prefer a 2.5 carat k color piece of spit on her finger rather that a .01 d color flawless perfect chip. With the internet, all full disclosure of information, I dont see the problem.

If these items were being sold to a little old lady from a store in town, and she didnt have access to information, and she was told it was great, then that is terrible, but selling inferior products, for cheaper prices with full disclosure of information in my books it totally fine!

Rant over.

SonnyJane, thank you very much for your advice. I totally see that Bluenile wouldnt sell something like this, but It is in fact my mistake, It is written i2-i3, just shows you how much I know! I do think the seller is being honest, hence it being rather cheap. It was just me thinking it was better than it is...

For all your information, this item just ended on ebay about 10 minutes ago, it is a horrible diamond, in fact i think the one I am looking at is actually nicer! This seller was honest in its description, and it was sold. Is that dishonest or unethical? I would be interested to see why psers think it is. Now it was sold for $260, but for that price, you could get a better smaller stone, but some people would choose the former. Also the buyer has a 877 rank, so I can presume they know how to use the internet and also ebay,

Ugly 14k Gold Diamond Engagement Ring that has a diamond solitare that is approximately 1 1/2 Carats. My diamond estimator says that it is 1 3/4 carat, but it could be smaller, so I'm listing it as 1 1/2 carat. It probably isn't the ugliest diamond in the world, but it is close. Not full of carbon though. It looks like cracked ice, so I'm selling it cheap, with no returns accepted. If you need a big diamond and don't mind a poor quality stone, this is the ring for you. The band is about a size 6 and is marked 14k gold. The diamond is impaired and the stone is a little yellowed, so the color is poor also. You can combine items to save on shiping. Please wait for me to send a combined invoice though. Ebay tends to overcharge you on shipping.

 

[denverappraiser]

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IAs far as pawn shops selling on eBay if they could, Have you ever seen the diamond stock of a pawn shop? Usually it's hundreds of cts. It would take forever to list these stones online, so for a pawnshop in this economy, it's easier to just sell at a small profit or recoup their money from a failed loan.

I, of course, don't know about the pawnshops in your neighborhood, but pawn dealers actually make pretty good clients for me and, around here, they want to both know what they have and they want to get as much for their stuff as they can. They generally don't seem to mind working for their money. Every one that I work with has an ebay account and is skilled at using it as well as with navigating Craigslist, traditional auctions, the various online consignment channels, and most have relationships with specialty jewelry dealers either for sale or consignment. Low end goods like this are a specialty market in their own right and a pawnshop showroom may very well be the best place to be selling it. I haven't seen the goods and wouldn't venture to guess where it would bring the most money but this is a strategic decision being made by some savvy folks who DO have it in hand and who ARE familiar with the options. They might screw it up or they might just get lazy on this one but I think it's a mistake to assume that just because they're a pawnshop or that they're somewhere in Asia that they are out of touch.

 

[MyDiamondSparkles]

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Okay, here is my honest opinion:

There is abslutley nothing unethical with selling large, small or otherwise ugly diamonds. In fact, by saying there is implies that only large, small or otherwise diamonds should all be of "good/ such and such" quality, and with that comes a steep price. So then are we to say diamonds are only for the rich? Absolutley not. To me, that would be highly unethical.

The decision of beautiful or ugly is up to the buyer. Period. Sure, when selling that diamond, it IS essential to give clear photos of what this diamond is and the 4 c's if you have them. But in this instance showing photos is more than likely going to be of more value that the 4c's-- and I am only saying that becasuse some buyers may not even know what an I2 or I3 diamond looks like. Of course if the diamond has a feather or chip those would be important disclosures too and if the seller would like to educate the buyer on why these inlcusions are important that would be ethical too.

But for the seller of that diamond to deem this diamond "beautiful" or "not beautiful" or "ugly", is a ridiculous notion. She can let a consumer know why another diamond might be valued more, and perhaps why some buyers would not choose this diamond, maybe give them some links to www.pricesope.com and other sources of diamond education. However, the end decision of what is beautiful or ugly is NOT up to the saleperson. And to imply that it is, is just wrong.

If "Beautiful" and "Ugly ratings, as well as "buy" and "don't buy" are not in the GIA's vocabulary then they shouldn't be in a diamond salespersons vocabulary either. A person who sells diamonds should have diamonds in all price ranges, so the buyer can decide for himself what amount of money he wants to spend on his version of beautiful. And it might be important to note that even a buyer's definition of beautiful is likely to change. I've seen it here on this forum taking place every day. A buyer goes looking for a F or G/ VVS1 carat diamond and ends up buying a 1.50 H/ Si. I've seen Si people buying I1's. Should the saleperson speak up and say the larger, lower rated diamond is less beautiful? Of course not! We all know that more than likely the label of "beautiful" is subjective and what a buyer deems as beautiful is likely to be based on what kind of a buget said buyer has, perhaps his vision and maybe his color preference.

Now, I can certianly understand why some vendors would not want to sell a diamond of the quality we were discussing, it surley has some problems that may affect is long term "wearability", but as long as the buyer knows what he is buying up front then there is absolutley nothing wrong with selling a diamond such as the one we are discussing.

Just My Honest Opinion

MyDiamondSparkles

 

[MichelleCarmen]

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deleted - found the answer to my question.

 

[risingsun]

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risingsun and gypsy: I am curious as to how you came to personally meet all of rockhuggers ebay customers. You must be pretty close to them to know they are ignorant and desperate when it comes to diamonds just because they might buy an
'ugly" diamond.

I recall recently a regular PS poster was looking for an "ugly" diamond around 1 carat for under $100 to give to her son as an educational toy/collectible for Christmas...how ignorant! Oh and I guess Wink was unethical in selling it to her as well.

I can dig up the link if you want.

What if rockhugger put up a "4 C's" tutorial on every listing would that appease your "guts" and make her an ethical seller?

Gypsy and I have been on this forum for many years. Part of what we do is warn people about getting a poor quality diamond on ebay or elsewhere. If someone knows what they are doing and makes the choice to purchase such a diamond, then that is their own decision. Yes, someone did buy one for her son to put in his rock collection. She wasn't looking at it for an engagement ring. I don't think that the market for cheap diamonds is directed toward children. The OP, herself, said she knew very little about diamonds. I think there was a better way to provide education for her, than how to turn a quick buck. This is supposed to be a consumer advocacy site, not how to flip your dreck onto someone else. At least the person who listed the diamond was very candid. I do not need my guts appeased, thank you very much. I belong to a profession, which subscribes to a set of ethics. I do not agree with RockHugger and wouldn't do business with her.

 

[RockHugger]

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Rising sun, and how do you know what the people buying any low quality diamonds from me are doing with them ? (again, I have only sold a couple of the low quality ones...don't think it's the foundation of my business).

I never put them in a e-ring, and the one I did set was in a mens stud earring because although it had carbon inclusions, it still sparkled.

There are a lot of assumptions and judgements going on here that are unwarranted.

 

[risingsun]

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Rising sun, and how do you know what the people buying any low quality diamonds from me are doing with them ? (again, I have only sold a couple of the low quality ones...don't think it's the foundation of my business).

I never put them in a e-ring, and the one I did set was in a mens stud earring because although it had carbon inclusions, it still sparkled.

There are a lot of assumptions and judgements going on here that are unwarranted.

Any assumptions I made were based upon your posts in this thread. If you want to flip ugly diamonds and advise others to do the same, that is your choice. I was left with the impression that this is what you do. This is the first post that stated you have only done this a few times, yet you defended it as if it was your primary source of income. Then you went on to advise someone else how to do flip a really bad diamond, if she bought it. Yes, I made my assumptions from your responses on this thread.

 

[RockHugger]

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Okie dokie then.

Eta: and I said in above responses that I dont just flip ugly diamonds. Please read.

 

[RockHugger]

Re: pawn store diamond advice...2.55 round brilliant j/k is1

I don't think it's unethical at all to sell an ugly diamond at a profit. I buy diamonds cheap from Locals and pawnshops, then flip them on eBay all the time and make good money (good diamonds and lower quality ones). As long as it's represented as it really is.

I purchased a 2.5 ct I3 for $50.00. It looked like a chewed up lump of coffee. I had it set in a stud, and sold it for 300.0o on eBay. All fully represented and honest, and even had a video of it.

There are people out there who can't afford a 2.5 ct diamond for 30k. They are perfectly happy with a I3 stone, just because it's big.

As far as pawn shops selling on eBay if they could, Have you ever seen the diamond stock of a pawn shop? Usually it's hundreds of cts. It would take forever to list these stones online, so for a pawnshop in this economy, it's easier to just sell at a small profit or recoup their money from a failed loan.

See highlighted. And in other threads, I also say I don't deal with diamonds a ton anyway. I don't consider myself a diamond dealer.

 

[coati]

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Anyway, thats my 10cents. I probably wont buy it, as I cant be bothered to go through the whole process of buying something, having it shipped to me, listing it, then sending it, just to possibly make a few hundred or nothing. I really thought it was worth more...

I think that's wise. I was thinking of your time and effort, ebay/paypal fees etc. Not worth the trouble for an opaque diamond. (can't stand the term "frozen spit" it's gross! ) Interestingly enough, there are jewelry designers working with opaque diamonds, I've seen pieces with opaque rose cuts specifically that are really cool. The only issue is that they need to be priced accordingly, and often these opaque pieces are priced similar to transparent, and that gets my goat. Cathy Waterman uses these in some of her designs-people are paying for the name and the design rather than the diamond quality. In any case, the stone in the op is not a rose cut in a contemporary design, and it is ultimately not worth the time and effort involved in selling it.

 

[puppylover10]

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Just my 2 cents but it seems like RockHugger here is being unfairly criticized. There is a market for everything, ugly diamonds included. Just because you would not buy a diamond like this, does not mean a diamond like this should not be sold. Flipping an ugly diamond is only a problem if you were to try to sell it for a higher price based on deceit. I don't think RockHugger at any point suggested that the stone should be advertised as more than it is.

If you could get a "ugly" stone for less than what is worth as an ugly stone, what's the problem with going on ebay and selling it at its real worth? Regardless if the stone here was actually a deal and priced at less than market worth, it was the belie of the OP that it might have been a steal. It seems like RockHugger was advising on based on that assumption that she could buy the stone for less than what it was wroth. The problem I guess with stones like this, is it is hard to say what it really is "worth" but I still don't see a problem with the underlying concept of "flipping an ugly stone". Its like, would you think that someone who bought a tiny ramshackle of a house for $1,000 and then went on to sell it for $5,000 is unethical if they are clear about the age and condition and area of the house & they are not trying to sell it for the price oof a normal house?

Also in my opinion, a seller is also under no obligation to say that any diamond is "ugly", only to be forthcoming regarding the stone's cut, clarity and color. The most I would ever hope a seller would say is that a diamond does not sparkle as well or has a lot of visible inclusions. I would never expect a seller to say a diamond is "ugly".

If RockHugger advised OP to put the diamond on Ebay and sell it for normal going price of a 2.5 c diamond then I'd have a problem with her, but I think she said something like the diamond might go for $400. The most clueless of buyers would realize that the rock is not the normal rock you'd find on BlueNile, or even on the rest of ebay. And being on ebay, the person is computer savy enough to look up the 4cs and realize what they are getting. I don't think there is as obvious of a warning to do some research as the price itself.

 

[Gypsy]

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I agree with Rising Sun. RH, you really made it sound like you flip fugly stones frequently and with no compunction about warning the buyers that they are indeed getting something that is well fugly.


BUT… if you really do put a disclaimer like the one below (ROFLMAO) on the listing. Then… no ethical issue at all. In that case… go for it.


Ugly 14k Gold Diamond Engagement Ring that has a diamond solitare that is approximately 1 1/2 Carats. My diamond estimator says that it is 1 3/4 carat, but it could be smaller, so I'm listing it as 1 1/2 carat. It probably isn't the ugliest diamond in the world, but it is close. Not full of carbon though. It looks like cracked ice, so I'm selling it cheap, with no returns accepted. If you need a big diamond and don't mind a poor quality stone, this is the ring for you. The band is about a size 6 and is marked 14k gold. The diamond is impaired and the stone is a little yellowed, so the color is poor also. You can combine items to save on shiping. Please wait for me to send a combined invoice though. Ebay tends to overcharge you on shipping.

 

[slg47]

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I agree with Rising Sun. RH, you really made it sound like you flip fugly stones frequently and with no compunction about warning the buyers that they are indeed getting something that is well fugly.


BUT… if you really do put a disclaimer like the one below (ROFLMAO) on the listing. Then… no ethical issue at all. In that case… go for it.


Ugly 14k Gold Diamond Engagement Ring that has a diamond solitare that is approximately 1 1/2 Carats. My diamond estimator says that it is 1 3/4 carat, but it could be smaller, so I'm listing it as 1 1/2 carat. It probably isn't the ugliest diamond in the world, but it is close. Not full of carbon though. It looks like cracked ice, so I'm selling it cheap, with no returns accepted. If you need a big diamond and don't mind a poor quality stone, this is the ring for you. The band is about a size 6 and is marked 14k gold. The diamond is impaired and the stone is a little yellowed, so the color is poor also. You can combine items to save on shiping. Please wait for me to send a combined invoice though. Ebay tends to overcharge you on shipping.

I really enjoyed reading that description It probably isn't the ugliest diamond in the world, but it is close. Talk about an honest seller!

 

[risingsun]

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I agree with Rising Sun. RH, you really made it sound like you flip fugly stones frequently and with no compunction about warning the buyers that they are indeed getting something that is well fugly.


BUT… if you really do put a disclaimer like the one below (ROFLMAO) on the listing. Then… no ethical issue at all. In that case… go for it.


Ugly 14k Gold Diamond Engagement Ring that has a diamond solitare that is approximately 1 1/2 Carats. My diamond estimator says that it is 1 3/4 carat, but it could be smaller, so I'm listing it as 1 1/2 carat. It probably isn't the ugliest diamond in the world, but it is close. Not full of carbon though. It looks like cracked ice, so I'm selling it cheap, with no returns accepted. If you need a big diamond and don't mind a poor quality stone, this is the ring for you. The band is about a size 6 and is marked 14k gold. The diamond is impaired and the stone is a little yellowed, so the color is poor also. You can combine items to save on shiping. Please wait for me to send a combined invoice though. Ebay tends to overcharge you on shipping.

I really enjoyed reading that description It probably isn't the ugliest diamond in the world, but it is close. Talk about an honest seller!

That is a description, which would receive my stamp of approval. No misrepresentation here! If someone went ahead and bought it anyway, it would truly be a case of caveat emptor.