Pear diamond vs Round Brilliant for pendant

[zah_zah]

Anyone

 

[zah_zah]

I have found two round brilliant stones, one is gia excellent and the other is hearts and arrows. Im wondering whether i should upgrade. £300 to go from excellent to hearts and arrows.
Both eye clean SI1 and H in color.

 

[Sunstorm]

In Antwerp I have recently looked at and am considering some smaller stones for pendants (and earrings), I looked at pears and rounds in particular in the 0.3-0.5 range mostly. I have to say that while pears used to be my least fave, they have most definitely won me over and I will personally probably select pears at this time. I think that their shape is great for both pendants and earrings and if the cut is excellent the brilliance is very strong though obviously it is a totally different story than an ideal cut round, not so much as far as brilliance goes but in fire. Now that is a personal choice and if I were you I would perhaps see some stones in person to see the difference. I personally find pears very bright, whiter looking than rounds and if cut great, very brilliant, what you do not want is the bow tie effect, I find that very discturbing and will not select stones that possess it. In rounds in case of an ideal cut the fire is very strong which I am personally not fond of but I do have to say they are amazing stones. I would very strongly recommend that you go high in color no matter what and go for an excellent cut for sure and as high a color as you can, there is a huge difference and it can be seen with the naked eye especially in rounds even in small sizes. An F will be very white and very beautiful, I would personally select a smaller stone and with a lower clarity grade but top cut and color. I do not find that there is a huge difference in size between a 30 some pointer and a close to 50 especially if you set the stone in a bezel but the color will show and the difference in cut is huge; a hearts and arrows will almost speak to you and evoke passion whereas a lower cut grade can look like glass. The difference is really like whether the stone is alive or it looks dead, once you have seen ideal cut rounds you may not want to go any lower. Also, while I am particularly fond of fancy yellows the yellowish low color grades are vastly less bright and brilliant to me than the top color grade which sparkle like ice.

 

[zah_zah]

Thanks for the response! Iv decided to go for round.
Do you think a ideal cut with a H colour would show yellow tint?

 

[Sunstorm]

I find that there is a vast difference in color between an F and an H stone, an F is very very white and yes the difference can definitely show, not to say that an H cannot be a good stone but in general most people in the trade would recommend a high color, I myself also own lower color grades but E-s and F-s are very very beautiful and if I was to choose today I would get a smaller stone with a better color. I would personally go down on carat weight if necessary but get a higher color grade, just my opinion not to say your choice is not good.

 

[Niel]

Thanks for the response! Iv decided to go for round.
Do you think a ideal cut with a H colour would show yellow tint?

At the size you're looking at no i don't think it will show yellow..

Ive heard people describe it as "less blue" when you get in that range.

 

[zah_zah]

I thought for the most parts a well cut H was white

 

[Sunstorm]

Yes, and H is white but while you may not be able to perceive yellow with your eyes, it is a more "dirty" white as compared to an F for example, which would be very white, sort of icey or pure white. There is a big difference but then again it depends on how trained your eyes are and how sensitive they are to color. To me E-F stones are amazing, G is fine, H is very nice too but E-F are amazing if you understand what I mean. I own a J stone in my engagement ring and love it but again if I was to buy today I would most definitely go down in size and get at least as high as an F. This is totally personal and I was not going to put down your choice but I would recommend you look at some examples IRL if you can.

 

[zah_zah]

I want to go for the best cut at 0.50 carat so I will have to go for a H colour to stay within budget. I don't want to go any smaller

 

[Niel]

I want to go for the best cut at 0.50 carat so I will have to go for a H colour to stay within budget. I don't want to go any smaller

I think you would notice the reduction in size more than the color difference. I think an h is a good choice.

 

[Sunstorm]

Zahzah I think you will be happy with your stone as long as you get ideal cut. That said I have to disagree that you notice the size difference between a 46 point stone and a 50 pointer, the price increase is significant despite only four points difference. I meant that you can often get a couple color grades higher for the same price if you only went down a few points. However, it is ultimately your personal choice and I would hate to tell you to get something you will not enjoy, eventually you have to decide and I am sure your choice will be beautiful regardless. I just prefer to give you options to consider.) If we were talking about clarity, I would always advice that you can go down from VVS to VS but I had a customer who was adamant about a VVS stone and after giving him my opinion I did not convince him any further. After all, your happiness and enjoyment of your diamond is what matters the most.

 

[zah_zah]

Thanks for the advice everyone!
I found my diamond now I have all of sudden started to worry that half carat might be small. I was thinking maybe out a very small halo around the stone.

What do you all think? yes or no. Do you think I should keep it as a classic solitaire.
Solitaire or halo?

 

[Sunstorm]

I think it is a matter of taste, I would personally keep it a solitaire because it maintains a clean look and that looks great in pendants. In case of a ring I would perhaps suggest a halo but not for a pendant and probably not for earrings either but again it all comes to you and depends on the design as well.

 

[zah_zah]

Hey just bumping up this thread and was wondering would an ideal cut si1 I colour in a halo show it's colour?

 

[woofmama]

Hi Zah zah I just read thru your thread and felt I could answer a few questions, though not about the halo.

Your concern about size: I purchased a .55ct MRB AGS0 in December. I absolutely love it!!! I think the size is perfect for everyday wear. I have a Chimento pendant that I love and wear my diamond layered with it. Together they look perfect without being over the top. It's classic size and goes with anything I wear. I live in jeans but wear very fashion forward trendy clothes and accessories.

My pendant adds just the perfect pop of sparkle. It's set in the three prong martini for two reasons, the setting matches my 1.00 ctw BGD studs and as part of their black Friday sale it was very budget friendly.

I love bezels and honestly have considered resetting into a bezel. It gives the diamond a small visual boost, like a push-up bra
I may reset down the road.

As far as color goes, my studs are BGD .50ct each Ideal AGS0 diamonds H SI1. The color is perfect for me, I had upgraded from .30ct each J's and I could see the color in the J diamonds. H is great if your color sensitive on a budget. My pendant is I with very strong blue fluorescence. It faces up whiter than my H studs! Blinding white really. Super cool effect. If I purchase a larger diamond for any future jewelry project I am going to seek out strong blue-very strong blue fluorescence stones.

Here's my thread: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/twinkle-twinkle-little-star-bgd-sbf-55ct-pendant.196502/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/twinkle-twinkle-little-star-bgd-sbf-55ct-pendant.196502/[/URL]

 

[iota15]

Hey just bumping up this thread and was wondering would an ideal cut si1 I colour in a halo show it's colour?

Personally, I think an "I" in the sizes you are looking at, or slightly larger, for a pendant is just fine. Even Tiffany selects stones in the I range for rings.

Colour in a pendant is even less noticeable. For one, the range is much further than a ring. You usually see it in a mirror, which is much further than your hand. Secondly, you don't have people grabbing at your neck to see a stone. It also swings around and is less steady than a hand, making any colour or clarity much more difficult to spot.

If you were choosing something much larger in weight, I might be maybe concerned that maybe you could see some colour during wear (not through a loupe or up close pics/range). I don't think you will see much if any colour *during wear* for an I under a carat. I understand it could be a "mind clean" issue. However I find size is easily noticeable in a pendant, colour - not so much.

Personally, I'd be tempted to go even lower in color and clarity for a pendant - but just make sure the cut is top notch so it really sparkles and go for a higher weight. That's just my opinion though.