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hailtotheking20

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I found a perfect setting from Sholdt Rings, as you can see below:

http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-designers/sholdt-jewelry/rings/27ZZ1/7/

However, this is a bit out of my price range, which I was hoping to ideally max out at around $2,000. I was hoping that someone could help me out with alternatives if they have ever come across anything similar. I really like how they make this one with the side and pave stones without the setting being overly ornate/complicated. Thank you very much!
 
Thanks a lot for the reply, I actually found one that is similar for about half the price, although I have to admit there is something about the original Sholdt one that I prefer:

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7472W44JJ

The other one is a slightly different style but I also like and was hoping for some input:

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/engagement-rings/side-stones/14k-white-gold-common-prong-diamond-engagement-ring-item-661

I am hoping to spend about $3500 - $4000 on a stone, and was wondering which style would go better with something in this price range. Thank you very much!
 
I strongly prefer the Gabriel and Co ring over the JA one. Both Good Old Gold and ID Jewelry carry Gabriel, so I would suggest shopping for your diamond at those two vendors. You should likely be able to get into the .80 ct. range.
 
hailtotheking20|1360164151|3373537 said:
Thanks a lot for the reply, I actually found one that is similar for about half the price, although I have to admit there is something about the original Sholdt one that I prefer:

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7472W44JJ

The other one is a slightly different style but I also like and was hoping for some input:

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/engagement-rings/side-stones/14k-white-gold-common-prong-diamond-engagement-ring-item-661

I am hoping to spend about $3500 - $4000 on a stone, and was wondering which style would go better with something in this price range. Thank you very much!
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How big is your FI's finger? Also - what size center are you getting? If you're getting something around a 1 ct, then I like the JA setting because the stone will really pop. Plus, if she has small fingers, the setting will look delicate on her and draw more attention to the center stone.
 
Her size is a 5.5, and you and I had the same idea that with this small setting the center stone will be accentuated. What do you think of the JA one with a nice center stone of ~ .8 carats? Thanks for all the help
 
diamondseeker2006|1360167829|3373588 said:
Or stick with Pearlman's and go with Scott Kay. I like their 3 stone design better than Sholdt. Pearlman's usually gives a 20% discount to PS members.

http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-designers/scott-kay-jewelry/rings/156U1/

http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-designers/scott-kay-jewelry/rings/151U1/
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Also, these Scott Kay ones are very nice. Do you think a center stone of approx. .8 carats will look too small in this setting? I have been looking around these sizes but with high quality as opposed to a larger stone. Also, how does one get the 20% discount from Pearlman's if you are a PS member? Thank you very much
 
hailtotheking20|1360170151|3373625 said:
Her size is a 5.5, and you and I had the same idea that with this small setting the center stone will be accentuated. What do you think of the JA one with a nice center stone of ~ .8 carats? Thanks for all the help
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I think it'd look great! what's your criteria?

this would look nice. JA does offer a discount on diamonds for PS members, so if you like it, put it on hold, find out what you can get the stone for and request an ideal scope image. this stone scored a 1.3 on the HCA (which is good):

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.90-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-190591
 
04diamond<3|1360170858|3373640 said:
hailtotheking20|1360170151|3373625 said:
Her size is a 5.5, and you and I had the same idea that with this small setting the center stone will be accentuated. What do you think of the JA one with a nice center stone of ~ .8 carats? Thanks for all the help
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I think it'd look great! what's your criteria?

this would look nice. JA does offer a discount on diamonds for PS members, so if you like it, put it on hold, find out what you can get the stone for and request an ideal scope image. this stone scored a 1.3 on the HCA (which is good):

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.90-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-190591
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This is just about exactly what I had in mind - thank you very much. Now all I need to do is decide on a setting whether or not to go with the JA one or one of the 3 stone ones mentioned earlier. Any idea how much of a discount JA offers to PS members on their diamonds?
 
hailtotheking20|1360170395|3373631 said:
diamondseeker2006|1360167829|3373588 said:
Or stick with Pearlman's and go with Scott Kay. I like their 3 stone design better than Sholdt. Pearlman's usually gives a 20% discount to PS members.

http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-designers/scott-kay-jewelry/rings/156U1/

http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-designers/scott-kay-jewelry/rings/151U1/
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Also, these Scott Kay ones are very nice. Do you think a center stone of approx. .8 carats will look too small in this setting? I have been looking around these sizes but with high quality as opposed to a larger stone. Also, how does one get the 20% discount from Pearlman's if you are a PS member? Thank you very much
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These are going to be much better quality than the ones at JA. At Pearlman's, ask for Julian and tell him you are a PriceScope member and ask if that means the Scott Kay settings get a PS discount. They can also help you with the diamond. Tell him you want GIA Excellent or AGS Ideal cut and the stone budget. Yes, I think these settings are lovely with a .80 stone. I have bought some rings from Pearlman's and I have the highest regard for them!

(James Allen discount can be 1-5% depending on the stone. But I would encourage you to give Pearlman's a chance to source your diamond because that would be the easiest way since they'd have to send the diamond to Scott Kay to be set.)
 
hailtotheking20|1360171276|3373647 said:
04diamond<3|1360170858|3373640 said:
hailtotheking20|1360170151|3373625 said:
Her size is a 5.5, and you and I had the same idea that with this small setting the center stone will be accentuated. What do you think of the JA one with a nice center stone of ~ .8 carats? Thanks for all the help
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I think it'd look great! what's your criteria?

this would look nice. JA does offer a discount on diamonds for PS members, so if you like it, put it on hold, find out what you can get the stone for and request an ideal scope image. this stone scored a 1.3 on the HCA (which is good):

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.90-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-190591
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This is just about exactly what I had in mind - thank you very much. Now all I need to do is decide on a setting whether or not to go with the JA one or one of the 3 stone ones mentioned earlier. Any idea how much of a discount JA offers to PS members on their diamonds?
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Personally, if you're on a budget, I'd go with this option. You don't need a designer ring especially if you want the size stone you want. I have not seen anyone on here get their center from pearlmans, but I have checked out what they have an am not impressed. On such a small finger, I think this JA option would be perfect.

I see the stone's on hold! Hope it was you!!! :bigsmile:
 
Pearlman's has access to all the same virtual stones that every vendor here has. They have the highest reputation and can access the same stones. You cannot compare the quality of the JA setting with the Scott Kay. I assumed he was looking for a quality setting since he was starting out with Sholdt. It isn't always necessary to recommend the very cheapest setting, in my opinion. He has the budget to have a nice stone and setting.
 
diamondseeker2006|1360173297|3373675 said:
Pearlman's has access to all the same virtual stones that every vendor here has. They have the highest reputation and can access the same stones. You cannot compare the quality of the JA setting with the Scott Kay. I assumed he was looking for a quality setting since he was starting out with Sholdt. It isn't always necessary to recommend the very cheapest setting, in my opinion. He has the budget to have a nice stone and setting.
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That isn't the "cheapest" setting, and it's one that the OP is interested in and the quality is great. To each their own and the OP knows his options.
 
Thank you very much everybody for the input. I contacted Pearlman's and he got back to me already regarding the settings discussed above - and he even offered a 15-20% discount. With the discount I very well may go with them instead of JA, I will have to see what kind of center stones they offer. In the meantime, to answer your question : yes it was me who put the JA on hold! Thanks again, I may ask for some more input after speaking with Pearlman's
 
You are wise to explore your options! I can't say enough about how excellent and trustworthy I have found Pearlman's to be. I do hope they are able to come up with a diamond, but if not, you can still have a stone sent to them to set if you should choose a setting there. I have looked at the SK settings in person and found them to be really beautiful, so I think they would be a great choice. Plus is is nice that you can later order the matching wedding band.
 
Hey everybody - I have decided to go with Pearlman's for the setting and have emailed him asking if he can recommend any center stones. I am trying to decide on one in the next day or two, and I have a question for the board though based on one I found with the search engine.

what do you guys think of this?

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-3312796-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-VS2-Clarity.aspx?sku=3312796&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Is this a good diamond? It has a score of 1.1 on your GCA scale, and I am curious why it is so much cheaper than this JA one that I have on hold for the day:

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.90-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-190591

Is it because of the fluorescence? I read somewhere that having the medium fluorescence may not be such a bad thing considering that I am going with an I colored diamond. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
The JA you have on hold looks quite nice. I personally don't know enough about that b2 whatever site to make a judgement call but since you can see images on the JA stone, and it's numbers are nice, AND its in budget...that to me makes it pretty amazing. Have you gotten any stone options from Pearlmans?
 
I've been working with b2c during my diamond search and have found them to be great. I haven't gotten my diamond yet (should be here in a few days!) but thus far they've been really accommodating and awesome. They also have one of the best return policies I've come across thus far, they pay for shipping BOTH WAYS, which made me feel really great about ordering from them knowing it wouldn't cost me anything if i didn't like it. The one downside is that they don't provide ideal scope images for their diamonds overseas, but I'm getting around that by asking them to send me images once the stone reaches their NY office and before it is sent to me. I had to order it first and block my money, but I saw potential in the diamond so it was worth it for me.

As for this stone, I wouldn't recommend getting anything less than an Excellent cut. Also, my understanding was that 62.5 is the max depth you want, but most PSers have recommended not exceeding 62 since the deeper the stone, the smaller the face appears. For a .90, I would suggest getting then most size face up that you can. And as far as fluorescence is concerned, you want to make sure to ask if it negatively affects the stone (makes it milky or oily) otherwise it's more of a personal preference. Sometimes it can make the stone look whiter, sometimes it can have no affect... But keep in mind, a stone with fluorescence can glow under a black light (club, bowling alley, etc) so that can be a cool effect or not, depending on how you feel about it.
 
hailtotheking20|1360257529|3374475 said:
Hey everybody - I have decided to go with Pearlman's for the setting and have emailed him asking if he can recommend any center stones. I am trying to decide on one in the next day or two, and I have a question for the board though based on one I found with the search engine.

what do you guys think of this?

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-3312796-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-VS2-Clarity.aspx?sku=3312796&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Is this a good diamond? It has a score of 1.1 on your GCA scale, and I am curious why it is so much cheaper than this JA one that I have on hold for the day:

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.90-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-190591

Is it because of the fluorescence? I read somewhere that having the medium fluorescence may not be such a bad thing considering that I am going with an I colored diamond. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Wouldn't consider the B2C stone because it is only "very good" cut. We have to weed out the best stones out of the broad Excellent cut category, so there is almost always something objectionable about very good. I suspect this stone probably has leakage judging from the very high crown angle with that pav. angle.
 
Hey guys - I had this stone suggested to me from Pearlman's. he didn't have a picture of it at the time, but he spoke to the diamond dealer who told him that the only imperfection would easily be covered by the prong based on its location, and when the stone arrives at Pearlman's they are going to send me some pictures. But what do you think based on the report? I attached it below. Thanks a lot for all the help!

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I'm having trouble seeing the numbers on the certificate -- not sure if its just me. Can you post the details or the GIA number?
 
Love that first baudry for your budget
 
That Sholdt is my fav one too!!!
 
Measurements: 6.12 - 6.14 x 3.73 mm
Carat Weight: 0.84 carat
Color Grade: G
Clarity Grade: SI1
Cut Grade: Excellent
PROPORTIONS

Depth: 60.9%
Table: 55%
Crown Angle: 34.0°
Crown Height: 15.0%
Pavilion Angle: 40.8°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0%
Star Length: 50%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Thin to Medium, Faceted (3.0%)
Culet: None
FINISH

Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: Faint
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS

Crystal, Feather


The report number is 1149189065



Thanks for all the input guys. I pretty much have my heart set on the Sholdt, but any comments on the stone would be greatly appreciated
 
.9 on the HCA, and looks fantastic numbers wise. Is it eyeclean? Id want to know about that crystal and its location and color.
 
I am told it is eye clean and that it is located near the girdle so would be easily covered by the prong. The diamond dealer is sending it to Pearlman's and should arrive there later this week and then they are sending my some pictures to confirm, and if it isn't up to par they are returning it and I will look for something else
 
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