Please help find me the right stone!!

[Iloveblingnz]

I am interested in this preloved stone from jewelsbygrace, but am concerned that the cut is only very good when everything I have read so far says to buy the best cut possible. Can your expert opinions review the data for me and give advice? I have thrown the details I had into the HCA and it came back under 2 and saying excellent?? Have I done something wrong?

http://www.jewelsbygrace.com/loose-diamonds/1-ct-to-2-00/1-81ct-round-brilliant-cut-diamond-gia-h-si1.html#.U2b3Sa2_l3o

Alternatively, I'm considering new stones with a budget up to $15k. Happy to sacrifice carat size a little, hopefully no smaller than 1.7 if poss. H-I colour, VS2-SI1 eye clean stone, Round brilliant.

Appreciate any assistance you can give me, I am spending hours searching and feel like I am going round in circles

 

[psproot12]

I am interested in this preloved stone from jewelsbygrace, but am concerned that the cut is only very good when everything I have read so far says to buy the best cut possible. Can your expert opinions review the data for me and give advice? I have thrown the details I had into the HCA and it came back under 2 and saying excellent?? Have I done something wrong?

http://www.jewelsbygrace.com/loose-diamonds/1-ct-to-2-00/1-81ct-round-brilliant-cut-diamond-gia-h-si1.html#.U2b3Sa2_l3o

Alternatively, I'm considering new stones with a budget up to $15k. Happy to sacrifice carat size a little, hopefully no smaller than 1.7 if poss. H-I colour, VS2-SI1 eye clean stone, Round brilliant.

Appreciate any assistance you can give me, I am spending hours searching and feel like I am going round in circles

No, you haven't done anything wrong with the HCA, just because you had two excellents in the HCA doesn't mean the overall grade should be excellent. Also, in my opinion you should forget the stone you are currently looking at, it is priced way too high per carat especially for an SI1.

Going from an H to an I is barely noticeable, an SI1
The best deal for H color, VS1 clarity I can find as in price per carat is:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-77CT-H-VS1-Round-EGL-Israel-Certified-Natural-Loose-Diamond-Cert-3309088738-/321386531843?pt=Loose_Diamonds&hash=item4ad4214c03

It is around half your max budget, the only problem is it comes with an EGL certification instead of a GIA certification. I'm sure if you speak to the seller you could negotiate in a GIA report. This is definitely something to look into, because the seller is American and has an excellent rating. Best thing is the stone is also excellent cut. Trust me save your money and look into this seller, I've never worked with him personally but this deal looks worth looking into.

To compare:

http://www.bluenile.com/ca/diamond-search?pt=setform&track=NavDrawDia#diamonds_pid=LD04239206

Good luck

 

[JulieN]

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3063794.htm?source=pricescope
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-4665152-1.76-carat-Round-diamond-H-color-VS2-Clarity.aspx?sku=4665152&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

 

[Iloveblingnz]

Thanks psproot12, can anyone give me a second opinion on this? Psproot, I know it sounds spoilt but I have been given a budget to upgrade so can your sharp eyes find an attractive 2 carat to compare? Thx

Edited : the EGL diamond reported 3.1 on te hca

 

[Stive85]

Thanks psproot12, can anyone give me a second opinion on this? Psproot, I know it sounds spoilt but I have been given a budget to upgrade so can your sharp eyes find an attractive 2 carat to compare? Thx

Edited : the EGL diamond reported 3.1 on te hca

Ya...don't buy the EGL diamond.. It comes from the Israel lab, which is known to be way less strict in terms of grading. Why do you think the price is literally almost half of what a GIA stone would go for?


The stone from WF is a gorgeous stone that is guarenteed to perform the way you would expect of a 14k diamond.

 

[Iloveblingnz]

Yeah thank you, that was my gut feeling too. If something's too good to be true, it's probably not. I have checked the WF one but it has sold on the website. Other suggestions please? I am waiting for wf to send some options today within the same budget so will post links here when received

 

[Iloveblingnz]

Hi guys,

White flash have provided me with some options - your expert opinions would be greatly appreciated

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/compare.aspx?idnos=3063718,3098833,3098835,3063716,3016697,2994227

Thanks

 

[Stive85]

Hi guys,

White flash have provided me with some options - your expert opinions would be greatly appreciated

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/compare.aspx?idnos=3063718,3098833,3098835,3063716,3016697,2994227

Thanks

Just FYI.. That stone that was previously "reserved" posted earlier, is now available again.. Put that on hold asap before another lurker does.

For me it would be between that one and the 1.713 I, SI1, which I would also put on hold until you get some other feedback.

 

[Iloveblingnz]

Thank you - I have sent an email to put this on hold. Do you think that particular stone beats the other ones Whiteflash provided? I have tried to view the idealscope and ASET images along with the tutorials but I am really not confident and I want to get this right!

 

[Iloveblingnz]

Thanks - should I start a new thread with the two WF options, or leave in here and hope the right people read to the bottom?

 

[Stive85]

Thank you - I have sent an email to put this on hold. Do you think that particular stone beats the other ones Whiteflash provided? I have tried to view the idealscope and ASET images along with the tutorials but I am really not confident and I want to get this right!

See what people post in this thread and narrow it down to say 3.. Then start a new thread to make your final selection.. It's always good to get different opinions. Especially since there are people on here who are diamond junkies and know a ton about them.

That being said, you can't really go wrong with either of the two I suggested. Both Idealscope and ASET images prove they would both be fantastic stones and sparkle like crazy. I would inquire as to the clarity of the SI1 stone though, and make sure it is eye clean from every angle and distance (or your definition of eye clean). If I were paying 15k for a diamond I would want to make sure the inclusions weren't visible.

As long as you aren't in a crazy hurry take a day or two and just browse, read, compare. Like I said, those two stones will both be amazing, but it never hurts to just browse and feel comfortable that you are making the right choice.

 

[psproot12]

Yeah thank you, that was my gut feeling too. If something's too good to be true, it's probably not. I have checked the WF one but it has sold on the website. Other suggestions please? I am waiting for wf to send some options today within the same budget so will post links here when received

Yes, I too agree with JUST the EGL Israel report it would totally NOT be worth it. However, this seller has stunning feedback and I'm fairly sure he would provide a GIA report. With the GIA report you can see the true color, clarity, etc. and negotiate a price with the seller.

I've always been the type to want to get the most for the least amount of money, if you can get the stone verified to the same level with a GIA report then wouldn't it be worth for you to save 5k , or get a larger stone? Just my 2 cents, in the end it's you decision and the best of luck with it!

 

[tyty333]

I like that initial "I" that JulieN pointed out and out of the other group I like the "I" colored stones. The first one is nice
but over $15k. The last one is nice too. Not much smaller in mm but cheaper. Really hard to go wrong with an ACA or
an Expert selection.

I dont think the H is eye-clean so skip that. Not worth going down to a K unless you are trying to save money.

 

[psproot12]

I like that initial "I" that JulieN pointed out and out of the other group I like the "I" colored stones. The first one is nice
but over $15k. The last one is nice too. Not much smaller in mm but cheaper. Really hard to go wrong with an ACA or
an Expert selection.

I dont think the H is eye-clean so skip that. Not worth going down to a K unless you are trying to save money.

Huh? I thought H, I, etc. referred to color not clarity. Wouldn't H mean slightly yellow tinted, and not having anything to do with it being eye clean? I'm confused!

 

[Iloveblingnz]

The I stone is eye clean, the si1 stone is eye clean to around 6 inches. I think this would annoy me if I could spot the inclusion/s

 

[Stive85]

The I stone is eye clean, the si1 stone is eye clean to around 6 inches. I think this would annoy me if I could spot the inclusion/s

Could you post what the gemologist said? or was this just the claim on the online sales rep?

 

[JulieN]

Huh? I thought H, I, etc. referred to color not clarity. Wouldn't H mean slightly yellow tinted, and not having anything to do with it being eye clean? I'm confused!

The H SI2 does not have they eye-clean icon WF puts on their eye-clean stones.

 

[Iloveblingnz]

@stive85 just what the sales rep said. What report should I as for?

 

[Stive85]

@stive85 just what the sales rep said. What report should I as for?

That I, VS2 is a great stone man. The images provided are all you need to assure you of that. If you can comfortably afford it I say go with it. They have a great return policy. Or at the very least put it on hold, and look at some others.. Doesn't necessarily have to be from Whiteflash.

Are you stretching your budget to go 15k?

 

[Iloveblingnz]

Yeah I was hoping to do stone and setting for 15 k, but to be honest if it comes down to 2k for a much nicer stone and around that 1.7 mark I'll happily stretch you've been a great help so far, thank you! Have put the stone on hold for 24hrs hopefully get a quite through from BG in the meantime. I really like his pave setting so would make sense to buy stone and band from one vendor. I tell you there are too many options out there to chose from!!

 

[Passion4diamonds]

I am interested in this preloved stone from jewelsbygrace, but am concerned that the cut is only very good when everything I have read so far says to buy the best cut possible. Can your expert opinions review the data for me and give advice? I have thrown the details I had into the HCA and it came back under 2 and saying excellent?? Have I done something wrong?

http://www.jewelsbygrace.com/loose-diamonds/1-ct-to-2-00/1-81ct-round-brilliant-cut-diamond-gia-h-si1.html#.U2b3Sa2_l3o

Alternatively, I'm considering new stones with a budget up to $15k. Happy to sacrifice carat size a little, hopefully no smaller than 1.7 if poss. H-I colour, VS2-SI1 eye clean stone, Round brilliant.

Appreciate any assistance you can give me, I am spending hours searching and feel like I am going round in circles

No, you haven't done anything wrong with the HCA, just because you had two excellents in the HCA doesn't mean the overall grade should be excellent. Also, in my opinion you should forget the stone you are currently looking at, it is priced way too high per carat especially for an SI1.

Going from an H to an I is barely noticeable, an SI1
The best deal for H color, VS1 clarity I can find as in price per carat is:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-77CT-H-VS1-Round-EGL-Israel-Certified-Natural-Loose-Diamond-Cert-3309088738-/321386531843?pt=Loose_Diamonds&hash=item4ad4214c03

It is around half your max budget, the only problem is it comes with an EGL certification instead of a GIA certification. I'm sure if you speak to the seller you could negotiate in a GIA report. This is definitely something to look into, because the seller is American and has an excellent rating. Best thing is the stone is also excellent cut. Trust me save your money and look into this seller, I've never worked with him personally but this deal looks worth looking into.

To compare:

http://www.bluenile.com/ca/diamond-search?pt=setform&track=NavDrawDia#diamonds_pid=LD04239206

Good luck

If iloveblingnz is interested in Grace's stone can't she make an offer lower than asking price? It's work asking!