please help me find an oval spinel.

[VapidLapid]

specs were in the "MC Lab Report" it has a 73% depth. I think it was 8.2 wide and 6.1 deep. 11 something long. A pavillion tweek is what I was thinking too

eta: in fairness the depth was not stated as a percentage. When I computed the depth % I used a value of 6.0 as the total depth to allow for a loss in a possible recut. as the stone is the depth is 74.4%

 

[chrono]

8.2 mm in width only leaves enough room for a pair of side stones, not 2 pairs.

 

[Niel]

Yeah I like the cut on the purple one a lot better than the orange one. I'm considering the orange but its already a bit kore than I wanted to spend and I'd still probably want to have it recut

 

[VapidLapid]

I know you said that you have the finger real estate for the five stone, but I have to point out a few things. You said you wanted this center stone to be more than 7mm long. this is 11, which is a lot bigger. Add to that the fact that the 4 side stones will need to be proportionally bigger to match it. If they are diamonds then that will come with a big cost jump too. Then if your side stones are 5 and 3 mm you will have a 24mm stone surface length, which is great...for a thumb ring.

 

[LD]

My e-ring finger used to be a 6.5-7 (it's now smaller) BUT a 5 stone ring is quite cumbersome. Depending on the sizes of course, and looking at the stone you like, I wouldn't have been able to wear it and I like big rings. In order to fit this on a finger you'd have to raise it up considerably otherwise you wouldn't be able to close adjoining fingers.

A 3 stone ring usually gives really good finger coverage AND personally I like that it stands for the past, the present and the future together.

A comment on cut - coloured stones are NOT judged by the cut but by the colour generally. You need to find a colour that speaks to you. Most ovals will show a bow tie of some description but small ones (like the orangey one) will not really be noticeable. You will see it because you've seen a blown up photo of it but if you hadn't seen that I doubt whether you'd notice it (and don't forget it will be far less noticeable in some lights). The best tool you have in coloured gemstone world is not maths but actually your eyes. If you narrow the search down to a couple of choices I'd suggest getting in touch with the vendor for handshots at about 18" away as this is the closest that most people will come to it and how you'll see it most often. Not all vendors provide additional handshots but it's worth asking.

 

[Niel]

I kniw color is most important but still I like those more interesting cuts. I'd rather have both cut and color. I feel like thats not impossible.

As for the size I have a very beautiful 3 stone oval saved on my computer if I need to go that route. Both are beautiful and id love either. I think you guys are right though. Maybe I should stay around 8mm. But my pear is 8.5 with a halo. I just dont want it to feel like a took a big it hit in size

 

[minousbijoux]

So your pear is a good starting point. How much extra room do you have on either side when you wear your pear? That will be pretty indicative. Measure the width of the halo itself (just the halo, not your center stone), and keep that in mind. Then figure out the width of the side stones you think would look and feel right for you. Net the difference between the total width of the anticipated side stones and the halo width, and then, when wearing the halo, add the extra width to each side to see if it works for you.

 

[LD]

The way to work out your finger coverage is take the 8mm of the central stone then, say 3mm for each side plus another 1.5 for the next lot of sides. Then add another 3mm (minimum for setting/claws). That gives a minimum of 20mm and would be more if your side stones are bigger. Will that fit for you? I'm not sure how balanced the ring would look with an 8 central and then much smaller sides however.

OR

8mm central plus 2 x 4mm sides plus gold (2mm this time) = 18mm. This might look more balanced.

Do you have the dimensions of your current rings?

 

[Niel]

I cant remember who's this is, but this is the 3 stone i was talking about, the center I think is 2ct
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/ready-or-not.54834/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/ready-or-not.54834/[/URL]
The pic on her hand seems like it could take some little billets

 

[Niel]

hmm....
http://loupetroop.com/listings/loose-stones-colored-gemstone/star-reduced-star-2ct-precision-cut-blue-spinel-oval

 

[LD]

You posted a photo of somebody's Padparadscha ring earlier - not sure if you're looking for that colour or it was the ring shape you liked. It's quite pastel so may not be what you're looking for. Anyway, here's it's untreated and for sale at $637.

 

[chrono]

hmm....
http://loupetroop.com/listings/loose-stones-colored-gemstone/star-reduced-star-2ct-precision-cut-blue-spinel-oval

Read the detailed text on the side carefully about the pros and cons of this spinel. There are reasons why it is priced low. Also consider that with the lower price, all sales are final.

 

[pregcurious]

I can't get myself to buy stones with no return policy. Settings, yes, because they can be modified, but stones, no.

 

[smurfett_333]

This is the photo of that orangy spinel from the MC "lab report",

This is a beautiful color!

 

[Niel]

Thanks for the search everyone. Ive decided what is most important to me is color, shape, and cut and a comfortable price point. Not type of stone or where it came from or treatments. Ive contacted precision gems, they have a cultured ruby rough ill probably go with.... i know this isnt ps approved so its the last ill talk about it. Which makes me sad because its going to be really beautiful, i want to flaunt it....but i guess thats my own fault.....

i wish mm gems were aloud like mmds, but oh well. Im buying it for myself not to show off lol

 

[ChrisA222]

Niel....

Just ask yourself, before going in that direction, if you will feel that you are 'settling' by choosing that option...it will no doubt be beautiful, but..will you think about where it came from (man) and wonder if you should have searched a little longer...

If Gene is cutting it, it will be gorgeous...but think about what I just said long and hard before going ahead with that idea

 

[Niel]

Niel....

Just ask yourself, before going in that direction, if you will feel that you are 'settling' by choosing that option...it will no doubt be beautiful, but..will you think about where it came from (man) and wonder if you should have searched a little longer...

If Gene is cutting it, it will be gorgeous...but think about what I just said long and hard before going ahead with that idea

thank you for understanding, i know these are kind of a "black eye" but truly the only reason i was searching for a spinel was because i want to be able to show it off on ps. and i thought long and hard about that. After i post it, then Im the one living with it. And what i want is a perfectly red stone thats well cut. I dont care about if its man made or not, this site does. you know?

my first ring was bought to impress other people and that was a mistake. im trying to correct that


Truly the only thing that makes me sad is I wouldn't be able to share my joy with you guys on ps

 

[ChrisA222]

I get it. Red is the hardest gemstone to find. There are a lot of pink-reds, browish-reds, orange-reds, and purple-reds.

I came very close with a Red Malaya Garnet from BB. It has a slight orange tinge though...and, I see the orange in certain lighting and it does close up a little in other lighting. But when Sun hits it directly, it is a pure, killer red. Indirectly in natural light, itis also pretty fantastic. Indoors is when it doesn't always play nice.

I did find a Pure Red Spinel, but it took a long time to find it. Its a little guy...1.25ct...but it is Red and its always Red.

I may have found a 2+ct Red Spinel...but as I haven't seen it in person yet, I cannot report if it is THE Red that my smaller one is.

For me...part of the appeal is that I am wearing something of beauty that came from nature, and all Man did was cut and polish it. But--everyone is different and entitled to what we like.

Might be worth it to take a look at a very well-cut Malaya or Tanga Garnet, Barry has some pretty fantastic ones. I can personally vouch for the 10MM Rhodolite (?) stone he has for sale..if you want a big one and can switch to a round. I bought that one and the 8.5mm one that I ended up keeping, and it was a heck of a decision. In the end I kept the smaller one because I didn't want any pink and that 10mm has just a tiny tinge of pink (vs the tinge of orange my stone has).

Good luck with whatever decision you make.

 

[chrono]

No need for apologies. If that is what's going to make you happiest in the long run, there is no need to justify it to us. Just make sure that you aren't settling just to get that perfect red stone.

 

[Niel]

No need for apologies. If that is what's going to make you happiest in the long run, there is no need to justify it to us. Just make sure that you aren't settling just to get that perfect red stone.

I probably should be talking about it sense i know its not allowed, though im not sure if that rule was made before the MMD forum was started.. . Either way. my priorities go like this "color, shape, size, cut, price, stone type"

would i love to have a red spinel that checks all my boxes, yes. But either a real red spinel would check all the boxes but price, and a mmg would check all them but stone type (though im still ok with the type becuase its the hardness i need for an e-ring, i would technically prefer it to be out of the ground) and sense price is more important that stone type to me, im comfortable with that.

the only reason i was looking for a spinel is because if there WAS one in my price range, id like it so i can show it off to you lovely ladies....... but they are not and i guess now i cant

 

[GregS]

Jeff Davies has been posting a lot of decent red's and neon(ish) pink Spinel's lately. He had one pink Spinel in particular that I had in mind for you but it's sold, it would probably be worth contacting him to see what he may have.

 

[pregcurious]

thoughts? assuming the color isnt as saturated like you guys said might be the case with this website
http://www.multicolour.com/detail/?/details/spinel/ysp138ab/&1244716636

I have had great luck with multicolour. the pics on their "lab reports" are closer to reality than the ones you see online. here is the one from that "lab report"




That stone has a 7.8 mm width which doesnt leave a lot of room for four more stones unless you have large hands

Wow, the color is very different on the "lab report".

 

[dk168]

Jeff Davies currently has this 2.98ct oval hot pink Spinel listed in his eBay shop:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOM-CUT-...4683?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item4ae031910b

DK

 

[pregcurious]

Oops, this is an old thread. Sorry to revive it from the dead.

 

[dk168]

Oops, this is an old thread. Sorry to revive it from the dead.

Doh, I did not notice the date!

DK

 

[Niel]

Oops, this is an old thread. Sorry to revive it from the dead.

Doh, I did not notice the date!

DK

Haha way to go guys!

 

[MJO]

What ct weight red spinel are you looking for. I am moving and found a box of stones under my bed I forgot about and it had quite a few spinels.

 

[Lisa Loves Shiny]

What ct weight red spinel are you looking for. I am moving and found a box of stones under my bed I forgot about and it had quite a few spinels.

Red spinels sell fast on LT and DB. I am not in the market for any, but there are many who are.

 

[MJO]

I was just trying to help out. I found about 6 nice ones ranging from .86ct to 11cts. The nicest is a 2.5ct the 11ct is a little on the dark side unless in direct sunlight. I will look into those sights. I haven't used them yet and will have to see how. I have not been active much here in years and have only recently started again.