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Well, people I know don't place any preference on brand or shape.Date: 7/4/2008 9:15:53 PM
Author:kittybean
Today I was with a good friend of mine who has been dating her BF about as long as I have been dating my fiance. We were chatting about the weddings she was going to be in next summer (3 including mine!), and then she mentioned that all her friends' engagement rings have set the bar pretty high for her BF. She explained that her childhood friend's 2.2 ct, my 2.1 ct, and our roommate's 1.6 ct diamonds set a high standard, and she seemed pretty bothered/worried about it. We talked a little about what she liked in case her BF should ask for my help, but this really got me thinking about the outward pressure we experience to conform to a certain norm, and how troublesome it can be when that norm seems to be out of reach. I know my engaged roommate previously expressed that she really wanted her ring to be bigger than her sister's, which seemed kind of crazy to me. As long as she was satisfied, why did the size of her sister's ring matter?
My question(s) to you all: do or did you feel any pressure from your social circle or your cultural environment for your engagement ring to be a certain size (or certain shape or brand or anything like that)? Do you think your SO does or did? How are you coping/did you cope with that? Is there anything you think I should say to my friend should it come up again?
Date: 7/7/2008 1:59:31 AM
Author: PawnShopHustler
Date: 7/4/2008 9:15:53 PM
Honestly, if I were a diamond girl and my fiance couldn''t afford a big (big=2cts) diamond I would just wear a plain wedding band.
Nobody ever questions that.
You''re right, no one ever does question a plain band. But it''s sad that there''s such pressure to begin with that people can''t just say that they can afford a X size right now and be happy with it. The standard keeps getting higher and higher and it''s not having a good effect on most of us. Where did the moremoremore attitude, which I also have, come from?
I guess it depends on how you define 'big,' but no, actually, not *everyone* loves big rocks. There's a thread in Hangout right now, started by Pandora II, because people seem to make this assumption often and it's not true. Some of us really do prefer smaller stones.Date: 7/7/2008 11:18:04 AM
Author: Fancy605
Pressure? No. But that's probably because I hang out with people who are pretty laid back awhen it comes to such things as jewelry. I mean, sure everyone loves a big, gorgeous ring, but most (not all, but the majority) of my friends would be happy with just being married to the loves of their lives, and the ring is just a nice bonus. My friends have rings with anywhere from .25 to 1.5 carat center stones, and I think most all of them are perfect for the individual personalities of each of the girls. That being said, DH and I didn't feel pressure to get a ring of a certain size. What we did feel pressure to do is get the most bang for DH's buck. Of course, we felt that pressure from ourselves and not from any outside sources because we both love a good bargain, and PS helped very much in making sure we found an amazingly fantastic balance of quality and value. I think if anything, people around here are more quality/style snobs. A big diamond can be quite ugly if it isn't of good quality and is set in something hideous, and a little one can be gorgeous if it sparkles just so and has an amazing setting.
Yeah. He's a schmuck. I won't say much else about him, but he is 27 (just had a birthday) and last year (2007) bought a Nissan 350Z, and then this year bought a Corvette to go with his daily truck and the Nissan.Date: 7/5/2008 9:08:59 PM
Author: diamondfan
Freke, show him what a fine emerald or ruby or any one of a number of colored stones of a high caliber cost. He clearly needs an education in gems. He is likely someone who just assumes a diamond is the most pricey thing, he is certainly one who takes stock in advertising aimed at people like him. I adore white diamonds and a high quality stone (cut, color, clarity) is wonderful, but I also love many precious and semi precious colored stones as well.
Date: 7/5/2008 4:23:47 PM
Author: FrekeChild
Hah! I mentioned getting a gemstone ering instead of a diamond, and my ex-boss chimes in: ''Well if you had a gemstone engagement ring, I''d just think your BF was cheap.''
WTF?!
So I said, ''What if I didn''t want a diamond?''
''I''d still think he was cheap.''
Ugh. Since that conversation he proposed to his GF(of about 3 months at the time of the proposal) which was a total surprise to her-I guess they had hardly talked about it-and he got her a HUGE thick setting(like 6/7mm with two rows of channel set diamonds)and a 1.5 ct round center stone. It''s huge, very industrial looking, and doesn''t fit her at all. No comment.
And I still want a 2-3ct gemstone. Screw that guy.
Date: 7/8/2008 7:59:50 PM
Author: Keepingthefaith21
Date: 7/5/2008 4:23:47 PM
Author: FrekeChild
Hah! I mentioned getting a gemstone ering instead of a diamond, and my ex-boss chimes in: 'Well if you had a gemstone engagement ring, I'd just think your BF was cheap.'
WTF?!
So I said, 'What if I didn't want a diamond?'
'I'd still think he was cheap.'
Ugh. Since that conversation he proposed to his GF(of about 3 months at the time of the proposal) which was a total surprise to her-I guess they had hardly talked about it-and he got her a HUGE thick setting(like 6/7mm with two rows of channel set diamonds)and a 1.5 ct round center stone. It's huge, very industrial looking, and doesn't fit her at all. No comment.
And I still want a 2-3ct gemstone. Screw that guy.
I also want a gemstone for my ring. FFI, however, has fallen prey to the idea that you HAVE to have a diamond for it to be an engagement ring. I was hoping that once he actually started shopping for a stone the prices (ever increasing prices I might add) would have persuaded him to think less with the typical advertising statement standards and more with what his bank account can handle. Needless to say, he is still convinced it has to be a diamond and is has to be at least a carat and it has to be this and that and everything inbetween. *Sigh*
So, to answer the question, my FFI is completely under the spell that a ring has to be as big if not bigger and as good if not better than all the rings he's seen paraded before his eyes. If only I could somehow convince him that pride and diamonds do not have to go hand in hand together. I think some men out there just like to compete and a bigger better fancier diamond is their way of saying 'look at what me can get for me girl. Me proud. She proud. You. Be. Proud. You admire shiny stone. Me bigger man.'
Date: 7/10/2008 4:10:28 AM
Author: that_someone_special
*Side note*
Being on here makes me feel pressured to have tiny fingers. My left ring finger is a 7ish, and my right is an 8.
And there are people on here that have 3s!! jeezzzzzzzzz. Most of my friends (some who are thinner than me) even have larger fingers than me. Actually I think all but one have larger fingers.
So.. now... my 7s feel like 900s on this site
My pinky is a 4.5 though. Yeah. Makes me feel better.
I feel the same way! I have size 7 fingers, which I always thought was fine...until I got here. Now I'm looking at my fingers wondering if there is any workout on Earth that could slim them down! BF occasionally catches me looking at them, muttering "Stupid fat fingers, stupid little stones look teeny on stupid fat fingers." He tries to tell me they're not....but I've seen the proof here on PS.Date: 7/10/2008 4:10:28 AM
Author: that_someone_special
*Side note*
Being on here makes me feel pressured to have tiny fingers. My left ring finger is a 7ish, and my right is an 8.
And there are people on here that have 3s!! jeezzzzzzzzz. Most of my friends (some who are thinner than me) even have larger fingers than me. Actually I think all but one have larger fingers.
So.. now... my 7s feel like 900s on this site
My pinky is a 4.5 though. Yeah. Makes me feel better.
Date: 7/10/2008 9:19:21 AM
Author: princesss
I feel the same way! I have size 7 fingers, which I always thought was fine...until I got here. Now I''m looking at my fingers wondering if there is any workout on Earth that could slim them down! BF occasionally catches me looking at them, muttering ''Stupid fat fingers, stupid little stones look teeny on stupid fat fingers.'' He tries to tell me they''re not....but I''ve seen the proof here on PS.Date: 7/10/2008 4:10:28 AM
Author: that_someone_special
*Side note*
Being on here makes me feel pressured to have tiny fingers. My left ring finger is a 7ish, and my right is an 8.
And there are people on here that have 3s!! jeezzzzzzzzz. Most of my friends (some who are thinner than me) even have larger fingers than me. Actually I think all but one have larger fingers.
So.. now... my 7s feel like 900s on this site
My pinky is a 4.5 though. Yeah. Makes me feel better.
ETA: I''m exaggerating...but only a little!
Date: 7/10/2008 9:32:15 AM
Author: elledizzy5
Date: 7/10/2008 9:19:21 AM
Author: princesss
Date: 7/10/2008 4:10:28 AM
Author: that_someone_special
*Side note*
Being on here makes me feel pressured to have tiny fingers. My left ring finger is a 7ish, and my right is an 8.
And there are people on here that have 3s!! jeezzzzzzzzz. Most of my friends (some who are thinner than me) even have larger fingers than me. Actually I think all but one have larger fingers.
So.. now... my 7s feel like 900s on this site
My pinky is a 4.5 though. Yeah. Makes me feel better.
I feel the same way! I have size 7 fingers, which I always thought was fine...until I got here. Now I''m looking at my fingers wondering if there is any workout on Earth that could slim them down! BF occasionally catches me looking at them, muttering ''Stupid fat fingers, stupid little stones look teeny on stupid fat fingers.'' He tries to tell me they''re not....but I''ve seen the proof here on PS.
ETA: I''m exaggerating...but only a little!
I almost felt the same way from being on here! My ring finger is 6.5/7ish... and I look at size 3''s and I''m like... WTH??? That actually exists??
But, people have told me my whole life that I have pretty hands and that I should model rings/bracelets for a living. (That sounds like a great job, doesnt it???)
So even though they''re bigger, they''re not chubby. And they''re beautiful, dammit!!
dockman - the ''not wearing any fine jewellery'' part is definitely true of me too. And actually, that was all the more reason why I wanted our engagement ring to be really nice. Seeing as it''s the one and only piece of fine jewellery I own, and seeing as I''m a less-is-more kind of jewellery wearer, so it''ll most often be the only piece I have on, I was all the more hung up about it!Date: 7/10/2008 10:06:11 AM
Author: dockman3
I''ll readily admit that I''m probably one of the only guys that reads this forum, but its mostly just out of curiosity and to try to get some tips on what my gf might actually be thinking that she''s not telling me.
With that said, yes, I definitely felt pressure, and still do, to get her a nice ring. She has said things like, ''I want one that looks like (our friend) C''s ring.'' or ''we''ve waited a while and I want a ring that shows that'' And she is always commenting on our friends'' rings and which ones she likes and doesn''t like. The really funny part to me is that she doesn''t own ANY really nice jewelery, nor does she wear any. I''ve never seen her wear a diamond anything, but she still wants this huge rock! I know her heart was probably set on a 1ct, but she wanted a 3-stone ring for finger coverage, size ~7.5, and with my budget, that just wasn''t going to happen. I''m still in grad school and not exactly making tons of money. I ended up getting a 0.82ct, 1.23tw ring, which is my avatar. I bet its just about as big as our friends here, but I went the route of getting a RING and not just a DIAMOND. I could have gotten a 1ct and put it in a really cheap solitaire and then maybe gotten a wedding band that hugs the solitaire later, but that would be settling for me, and I didn''t want to just settle on something for her.
I guess I got a little off topic there, but the point is that yes, I did feel pressure, but the ring is bought, so I''m not worried about it anymore. I know she''s going to love it and its still going to out sparkle her friends rings because I actually put tons of time and thought and research into this ring. Moral of the story, guys feel the pressure too, so don''t be too harsh on your SO''s and don''t put any pressure on them. Hopefully they realize that its the thought and time and effort that goes into finding the perfect ring that the girl will cherish, and if they do put the time in, they''ll come out with a gorgeous ring that you can be proud of.
Date: 7/10/2008 10:29:58 AM
Author: Delster
Date: 7/10/2008 10:06:11 AM
Author: dockman3
I''ll readily admit that I''m probably one of the only guys that reads this forum, but its mostly just out of curiosity and to try to get some tips on what my gf might actually be thinking that she''s not telling me.
With that said, yes, I definitely felt pressure, and still do, to get her a nice ring. She has said things like, ''I want one that looks like (our friend) C''s ring.'' or ''we''ve waited a while and I want a ring that shows that'' And she is always commenting on our friends'' rings and which ones she likes and doesn''t like. The really funny part to me is that she doesn''t own ANY really nice jewelery, nor does she wear any. I''ve never seen her wear a diamond anything, but she still wants this huge rock! I know her heart was probably set on a 1ct, but she wanted a 3-stone ring for finger coverage, size ~7.5, and with my budget, that just wasn''t going to happen. I''m still in grad school and not exactly making tons of money. I ended up getting a 0.82ct, 1.23tw ring, which is my avatar. I bet its just about as big as our friends here, but I went the route of getting a RING and not just a DIAMOND. I could have gotten a 1ct and put it in a really cheap solitaire and then maybe gotten a wedding band that hugs the solitaire later, but that would be settling for me, and I didn''t want to just settle on something for her.
I guess I got a little off topic there, but the point is that yes, I did feel pressure, but the ring is bought, so I''m not worried about it anymore. I know she''s going to love it and its still going to out sparkle her friends rings because I actually put tons of time and thought and research into this ring. Moral of the story, guys feel the pressure too, so don''t be too harsh on your SO''s and don''t put any pressure on them. Hopefully they realize that its the thought and time and effort that goes into finding the perfect ring that the girl will cherish, and if they do put the time in, they''ll come out with a gorgeous ring that you can be proud of.
dockman - the ''not wearing any fine jewellery'' part is definitely true of me too. And actually, that was all the more reason why I wanted our engagement ring to be really nice. Seeing as it''s the one and only piece of fine jewellery I own, and seeing as I''m a less-is-more kind of jewellery wearer, so it''ll most often be the only piece I have on, I was all the more hung up about it!
I think you''ve done a fabulous job with your purchase. You''ve gotten her the three stone she wanted so much for coverage, and you''ve hit carat mark she dreamed of. And it''s a beautiful ring. Good job!!!
To answer the OP''s question, I''m really not sure that I felt pressure from my social circle. Our purchasing decisions were made in a vacuum of social pressure I think, as our friends have only begun to get engaged in the last few months. FI set a budget two years ago and he stuck to it. We chose the style because that was what looked nicest on my hands. If a halo-ed pavé split shank eternity, or a three stone, had been what suited me best, he obviously would have bought a smaller centre stone as more of the budget would have gone into the setting.