Pricness Cut Stones and Setting - Is it Worth it ? - new pictures attached

[stone-cold11]

Wow! Tough specs...

JA has 2 that I think are worth a try. Both GIA, so you have got to request IS images from them and then post here for us to review it while putting them on hold.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/D-VS2-Premium-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1176169.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Princess-Diamond-861182.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

BN has an I VS1 AGS0 stone, http://www.bluenile.com/princess-cut-diamond-1-carat-very-good-cut-i-color-vs1-clarity_LD00101674?filter_id=0

and a G VS1 AGS3 stone, cut is graded 1 and proportion 2, slightly above you budget at 4.9khttp://www.bluenile.com/princess-cut-diamond-1-carat-very-good-cut-g-color-vs1-clarity_LD01010778?filter_id=0


Hope that helps.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/27/2009 6:52:25 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
Wow! Tough specs...

JA has 2 that I think are worth a try. Both GIA, so you have got to request IS images from them and then post here for us to review it while putting them on hold.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/D-VS2-Premium-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1176169.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/E-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Princess-Diamond-861182.asp?b=16&a=12&c=77&cid=131

BN has an I VS1 AGS0 stone, http://www.bluenile.com/princess-cut-diamond-1-carat-very-good-cut-i-color-vs1-clarity_LD00101674?filter_id=0

and a G VS1 AGS3 stone, cut is graded 1 and proportion 2, slightly above you budget at 4.9khttp://www.bluenile.com/princess-cut-diamond-1-carat-very-good-cut-g-color-vs1-clarity_LD01010778?filter_id=0


Hope that helps.

Still need images.

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 1/28/2009 2:46:05 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 1/27/2009 6:52:25 PM

Author: Stone-cold11

BN has an I VS1 AGS0 stone, http://www.bluenile.com/princess-cut-diamond-1-carat-very-good-cut-i-color-vs1-clarity_LD00101674?filter_id=0

Hope that helps.

Still need images.

And you know that you can''t get IS or any kind of images from BN so the only safe way to buy from them is to get AGS0.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/28/2009 4:55:02 AM
Author: Stone-cold11

Date: 1/28/2009 2:46:05 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 1/27/2009 6:52:25 PM

Author: Stone-cold11

BN has an I VS1 AGS0 stone, http://www.bluenile.com/princess-cut-diamond-1-carat-very-good-cut-i-color-vs1-clarity_LD00101674?filter_id=0

Hope that helps.

Still need images.

And you know that you can't get IS or any kind of images from BN so the only safe way to buy from them is to get AGS0.

To a point I agree, but I don't think getting an AGS0 is necessarily a 'safe' way to purchase from them, it may be 'safer' but still not a total guarantee. As an example recently we had a poster buy an AGS0 Princess he or she was unhappy with and there have been other instances where the AGS0 Princess hasn't always been a top choice in the past, so we really can't consider them all equal. Of course a poster can buy from BN and if they don't like what they see send it back, but I would be leery of automatically assuming any AGS0 is going to be definitely pleasing to every buyer just on the strength of having an AGS0 cut grade for round or princess. The majority are going to be well cut diamonds certainly and it is worth considering them especially with BN to narrow the field, but I wouldn't presume to think that they are the best choice for everyone.

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 1/28/2009 4:58:33 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 1/28/2009 4:55:02 AM
Author: Stone-cold11

Date: 1/28/2009 2:46:05 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 1/27/2009 6:52:25 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
BN has an I VS1 AGS0 stone, http://www.bluenile.com/princess-cut-diamond-1-carat-very-good-cut-i-color-vs1-clarity_LD00101674?filter_id=0
Hope that helps.

Still need images.

And you know that you can''t get IS or any kind of images from BN so the only safe way to buy from them is to get AGS0.

To a point I agree, but I don''t think getting an AGS0 is necessarily a ''safe'' way to purchase from them, it may be ''safer'' but still not a total guarantee. As an example recently we had a poster buy an AGS0 Princess he or she was unhappy with and there have been other instances where the AGS0 Princess hasn''t always been a top choice in the past, so we really can''t consider them all equal. Of course a poster can buy from BN and if they don''t like what they see send it back, but I would be leery of automatically assuming any AGS0 is going to be definitely pleasing to every buyer just on the strength of having an AGS0 cut grade for round or princess. The majority are going to be well cut diamonds certainly and it is worth considering them especially with BN to narrow the field, but I wouldn''t presume to think that they are the best choice for everyone.

So how would you go about buying a GIA graded princess on BN then? Maybe BN''s Signature Ideal? But as we know, GCAL never reply on how they go about grading princess cut when asked directly on this forum, so you can''t trust that too right? You will need a ASET/IS image no matter what is what you are saying and BN will not provide them, so what will you do?

Other then by buying them, getting it in hand or to an independent appraiser and then returning it if you do not like it? Which is the same as process as buying an AGS0 princess but the chance of an AGS0 performing not ideally to your eyes is far less likely then a GIA stone as GIA do not grade princess cut and any cut graded on BN is given by the vendor themselves.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/28/2009 5:40:39 AM
Author: Stone-cold11

Date: 1/28/2009 4:58:33 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 1/28/2009 4:55:02 AM
Author: Stone-cold11

Date: 1/28/2009 2:46:05 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 1/27/2009 6:52:25 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
BN has an I VS1 AGS0 stone, http://www.bluenile.com/princess-cut-diamond-1-carat-very-good-cut-i-color-vs1-clarity_LD00101674?filter_id=0
Hope that helps.

Still need images.

And you know that you can''t get IS or any kind of images from BN so the only safe way to buy from them is to get AGS0.

To a point I agree, but I don''t think getting an AGS0 is necessarily a ''safe'' way to purchase from them, it may be ''safer'' but still not a total guarantee. As an example recently we had a poster buy an AGS0 Princess he or she was unhappy with and there have been other instances where the AGS0 Princess hasn''t always been a top choice in the past, so we really can''t consider them all equal. Of course a poster can buy from BN and if they don''t like what they see send it back, but I would be leery of automatically assuming any AGS0 is going to be definitely pleasing to every buyer just on the strength of having an AGS0 cut grade for round or princess. The majority are going to be well cut diamonds certainly and it is worth considering them especially with BN to narrow the field, but I wouldn''t presume to think that they are the best choice for everyone.

So how would you go about buying a GIA graded princess on BN then? Maybe BN''s Signature Ideal? But as we know, GCAL never reply on how they go about grading princess cut when asked directly on this forum, so you can''t trust that too right? You will need a ASET/IS image no matter what is what you are saying and BN will not provide them, so what will you do?

Other then by buying them, getting it in hand or to an independent appraiser and then returning it if you do not like it? Which is the same as process as buying an AGS0 princess but the chance of an AGS0 performing not ideally to your eyes is far less likely then a GIA stone as GIA do not grade princess cut and any cut graded on BN is given by the vendor themselves.

Like I said to a point I agree, buying AGS0 Princess from BN is a safer method, but not necessarily safe. There have been some less than stellar AGS0 in the purchaser''s opinion come up from time to time, admittedly this is rare but personally I don''t think it is good to assume that any diamond with an AGS0 cut grade is automatically going to be a gorgeous diamond. AGS0 cut grade gets us into the ballpark where we can have some confidence the diamond is well cut, but whether it is going to appeal to the buyer in person is another matter. What I am trying to say is yes, buying AGS0 from BN is probably a safer method but we are still missing important information on the diamond, and at this time as BN won''t provide images then that is the way it will be for the foreseeable future unless they suddenly see the value in providing photos and other images for fancy shapes. There is less of a chance that an AGS0 isn''t going to perform well when choosing on limited info than a GIA diamond, but no guarantee that it will be a pleasing diamond to the purchaser.