Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F, VG)

[DB9506]

Hi all,

I have finally decided on a diamond, pending your approvals! Having done my homework this is the best deal I could find on a GIA inspected stone of 0.60 carats. Not a monster but pretty nevertheless and as she only has dainty hands should sit nicely on the proposed setting.

I would be pleased to read your educated comments on the stone based on what you can see from the images below and the specification which is as follows: -

GIA Report
Pear Brilliant
7.37 x 4.95 x 2.94
F
Internally Flawless
Natural Finish
Polish Very Good
Symmetry Good
Fluorescence None





I believe this is a nice well proportioned stone and should sparkle well. Any pointers on this as it seems to tick all the boxes.

I intend having it set in the following platinum band: -



Any opinions on my new order? All welcome.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

I am going to let others more experienced with pears reply, but I guess my main concern would be the "good" for symmetry. I would want excellent for that, if at all possible. But maybe most pears are not cut symmetrically?

Did your girlfriend request a pear shape diamond? I am just asking because we have a couple of people here that are unhappy with their pears because the don't sparkle as much as a well cut round. If this is what she wants, then by all means stick with it. I personally wouldn't pay for IF clarity unless I just couldn't find a VS diamond that was well cut. I do think a higher color in a pear is important since color will show in parts of a pear in lower colors.

I wish you had put pear in your title so pear fans could see it.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

I just did a quick look at some pears and the one I liked best also has good for symmetry, so maybe that isn't bad in a pear.

Did you pay more than $2000? Because here is a stone that I think might look better since yours seems to have some darkness through the center. I am assuming you are asking us while you have it on hold or a return policy.

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Pear-cut/0.65-carat-F-color-VVS1-clarity-sku-169501

Wait a few seconds and the video of the stone will load, and if you click on the photo area, the stone video will come on.

 

[04diamond<3]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

I LOVE it!! No, pears do not have excellent, or ideal symmetry the way rounds do, so "good" is actually good. As with most fancies, "good" can be excellent. I think it's beautiful, I love the cut, no bow tie, and the color and clarity is just beautiful! That setting is unique too, I think it'll be a lovely ring. Well done!

 

[motownmama]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

It looks lovely, and I really like the setting - classic + unique!

 

[yennyfire]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

It looks like a lovely stone (though I'm no pear expert), but I wonder if it was necessary to pay for IF clarity? I'd imagine that came at quite a cost and you could either save some $$ or get a larger stone in a VS2 (eye clean) for the same $$? I agree with DS about sticking with a higher color since pears tend to show color more than a round.

 

[maccers]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

I LOVE it!! No, pears do not have excellent, or ideal symmetry the way rounds do, so "good" is actually good. As with most fancies, "good" can be excellent. I think it's beautiful, I love the cut, no bow tie, and the color and clarity is just beautiful! That setting is unique too, I think it'll be a lovely ring. Well done!

I thought this stone does have a bowtie? The darkness across the middle? I'm asking this question for my own education - not meant to be argumentative. I understand that most, if not all, pears will have some bowtie effect - does qualification of bowtie mean that the stone has 'extinction' (not sure if this word applies to diamonds or only coloured stones) whereas this pear only has a darker (but not blacked out) area?

That said, I love the shape of this pear, the ratio is perfect in my mind. Bowtie or not, I'd pick this pear!

 

[Karl_K]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

I LOVE it!! No, pears do not have excellent, or ideal symmetry the way rounds do, so "good" is actually good. As with most fancies, "good" can be excellent. I think it's beautiful, I love the cut, no bow tie, and the color and clarity is just beautiful! That setting is unique too, I think it'll be a lovely ring. Well done!

I thought this stone does have a bowtie? The darkness across the middle? I'm asking this question for my own education - not meant to be argumentative. I understand that most, if not all, pears will have some bowtie effect - does qualification of bowtie mean that the stone has 'extinction' (not sure if this word applies to diamonds or only coloured stones) whereas this pear only has a darker (but not blacked out) area?

That said, I love the shape of this pear, the ratio is perfect in my mind. Bowtie or not, I'd pick this pear!

Yes, all the pics are showing a bow tie but it is impossible to say how bad it is because we dont not know how much obstruction is in each picture. At a guess it is more than on the hand but there is no way to know for sure.

OP: Do you have or can you get an ASET image?

 

[babs23r]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

Yes, an aset image would be good. Fancies are tricky to judge. Is it sparkly to you in all lights?

 

[BriBee]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

I really like the setting, the asymmetry and "swoopiness" compliment the stone. I just had one comment though....have you considered how this will pair with a wedding band? I only mention it because my brother recently got engaged and future sister-in-law's ring is a similar setting and they are having a hard time coming up with a wedding band. She might end up wearing them on separate hands. Just a thought, but overall a very pretty design.

 

[chrono]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

IF is overkill unless it so happens that this one is just what you are looking for and the IF clarity is just added bonus. Would be very helpful to see the ASET since we are unable to view the stone in person.

 

[Roxy]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

I LOVE it!! No, pears do not have excellent, or ideal symmetry the way rounds do, so "good" is actually good. As with most fancies, "good" can be excellent. I think it's beautiful, I love the cut, no bow tie, and the color and clarity is just beautiful! That setting is unique too, I think it'll be a lovely ring. Well done!

I thought this stone does have a bowtie? The darkness across the middle? I'm asking this question for my own education - not meant to be argumentative. I understand that most, if not all, pears will have some bowtie effect - does qualification of bowtie mean that the stone has 'extinction' (not sure if this word applies to diamonds or only coloured stones) whereas this pear only has a darker (but not blacked out) area?

That said, I love the shape of this pear, the ratio is perfect in my mind. Bowtie or not, I'd pick this pear!

Yes, all the pics are showing a bow tie but it is impossible to say how bad it is because we dont not know how much obstruction is in each picture. At a guess it is more than on the hand but there is no way to know for sure.

OP: Do you have or can you get an ASET image?

OP: The pear is pretty, but the bowtie is what I noticed right away, so that would cause me to hesitate on pulling the trigger on this one. Not that the bowtie would impact this pear's performance, but I can't tell anything about its performance from the pictures.

Pears, ovals, & marquise cut diamonds have some range of bowties so the presence of one isn't a problem, it's how the bowtie impacts their performance that the buyer should be concerned about & that's why I'd hesitate on this one until I got more information. In your opening statement, you mentioned that you "believe ... it should sparkle well", so I'm taking that to mean that you have not seen this diamond for yourself? Am I understanding this correctly or have you actually laid eyes on this stone?

You really cannot choose a fancy shape from pictures (& cert report) alone, and even after looking at all of the analysis (ie, ASET images, etc), you still need to see the stone either in person or via a video in a variety of lighting environments to know what you're actually getting. So ask the vendor if they can send you a video and additional analysis to help finalize your decision. I'm sure they'll provide whatever you need to help you get a gorgeous ring!

ETA a reference to the "OP" in my post

 

[Niel]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

For me it depends on how much you paid for it.

The good symm doesnt bother me and actually i really love the proportions of the pear you got what bothers me is the color clarity. F, IF comes at a premium, that i think could be better spent elsewhere.

However, pears are a tricky thing. You have to say "here is my budget, and i want it to have at LEAST X clarity and at least Y color"... and then you basically choose the best looking one.

Were those stats something you were looking for or did they "choose you"

Because I think, depending on the budget, you could probably drop down to a g/h si1 (maybe even si2) and be able to get a lot more pear for your buck. Pears hold more color so I wouldnt be comfortable going lower than an h (some say g even, but i dont mind my H a bit) and the faceting of the pear hides so much, theres no need to have such a high clarity.

BUT, i say this knowing it may have been the best one to fit your criteria. However, if you're comfortable sharing the budget we might see what else we can find

Cannot wait to see it finished!! Itll be very beautiful

 

[Niel]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

based of a quick JA search (i know very scientific ) stones at that spec were about 2k-2.5k

if thats the case id have you consider this one ( with a ps wire is about the same price) and THATS even overkill on the clarity. I would imaging Good Old Gold could find you some sort of redic good deal on an eye clean si2

BUT this is assuming you paid over 2k. If it was a steal, i think its a very beautiful shape!!

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Pear-cut/0.91-carat-H-color-VVS1-clarity-sku-97530

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

based of a quick JA search (i know very scientific ) stones at that spec were about 2k-2.5k

if thats the case id have you consider this one ( with a ps wire is about the same price) and THATS even overkill on the clarity. I would imaging Good Old Gold could find you some sort of redic good deal on an eye clean si2

BUT this is assuming you paid over 2k. If it was a steal, i think its a very beautiful shape!!

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Pear-cut/0.91-carat-H-color-VVS1-clarity-sku-97530

This a very nice one! It would be larger, though, if it didn't have the thick girdle. But that means fewer worries about chipping, I guess!

 

[DB9506]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

Thank you all for your consideration, insightful advice and kind words.

I am not overly concerned about the bow tie and understand that is an "attribite" of a fancy stone, I do care about the clarity and yes I will know so that is all that matters, the colour (or lack of it) is perfect too and I particularily like the ratio.

Hopefully it should make a nice ring.

Thanks again for your advice and pointers.

I will post a pic when it is made up.

Just need to ask her Dad's permission now for her hand!

 

[Niel]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

Sounds like you dont need out opinions then. you like it and at the end of the day thats all that matters.

Congrats on the proposal!!!!

 

[canuk-gal]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

HI:

Gorgeous stone--with very desirable specs! Oh IF only to have an F IF! (sorry, silly almost pun... ). I absolutely adore high color and clarity. That setting reminds me of Niwaka's simple, elegant styles. Well done.

Do post hand shots when finished. Can't wait to see how it looks on her hand!

cheers--Sharon

 

[Roxy]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

Thank you all for your consideration, insightful advice and kind words.

I am not overly concerned about the bow tie and understand that is an "attribite" of a fancy stone, I do care about the clarity and yes I will know so that is all that matters, the colour (or lack of it) is perfect too and I particularily like the ratio.

Hopefully it should make a nice ring.

Thanks again for your advice and pointers.

I will post a pic when it is made up.

Just need to ask her Dad's permission now for her hand!

Good luck! Glad we could help, and we'll look forward to seeing the finished ring on the SMTR forum.

 

[DB9506]

Re: Purchased a stone, what do you think of it? (GIA, IF, F,

Stone arrived earlier in the week and it reflects light so well. I am very impressed with the initial look of it.

Price wise, I paid $1800 which considering the specification I understand is a good price?

I have instructed a jeweler who will install the diamond into a platinum setting which he will also suplpy for $1200. So all in $3000 which is quite a good deal I think (and hope!).

Will post pics when it is finished.

Thank you again to all who have contributed and helped "push me" into buying this great stone.