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I will try to get you started Couture - welcomeDate: 7/10/2006 3:22:35 AM
Author: Couture
Oh my, your new stone looks so amazing!! It looks really great (and perfectly big) on your finger!
I have begun my search for a diamond and I am wondering if you can help me out a little. I don't want to steal your thread at all, so if you just reply once that would be so helpful!!
I keep reading that people get 'eye clean' SI stones like yours, and that would be great for me, but how do you find out that it is eye clean without having it shipped to you?
And what exactly is eye clean? I thought it meant that you cannot see the inclusions with the naked eye, correct? (If so, yay for eye clean!!)
I am looking for similar color around 2 ct, RB. Any tips or suggestions?
Thank you so much and again, your stone looks awesome, congrats on finding it!!
Date: 7/10/2006 3:08:36 PM
Author: Kim N
Dem, I'm so glad you were able to find your dream stone, and what a stone it is! It's incredible.And your pictures of it are amazing. I love all the colors coming off of it, and the silvery arrows, and the shards of light. I've been trying to capture pictures like that with my Canon, but I haven't been able. Whenever I've tried to take indoor pictures, it's given me the camera shake warning for not having enough light. I think I need to try pictures with the sun behind the ring like yours.
Aside from the mind-cleanness, what visual differences do you see between this stone and your old one?
Dem, your new diamond is beautiful! I''m glad you were able to get a "mind clean" diamond, as that is definitely important!
And I love the classic solitaire erring and plain band look as well. It really makes the diamond look HUGE! I sometimes wonder if I should get a plain band instead of an eternity…*sigh* So hard to settle on just one!
Date: 7/10/2006 3:45:18 PM
Author: Demelza
Date: 7/10/2006 3:08:36 PM
Author: Kim N
Dem, I''m so glad you were able to find your dream stone, and what a stone it is! It''s incredible.And your pictures of it are amazing. I love all the colors coming off of it, and the silvery arrows, and the shards of light. I''ve been trying to capture pictures like that with my Canon, but I haven''t been able. Whenever I''ve tried to take indoor pictures, it''s given me the camera shake warning for not having enough light. I think I need to try pictures with the sun behind the ring like yours.
Aside from the mind-cleanness, what visual differences do you see between this stone and your old one?
Thanks, Kim! Yes, it seems that taking shots with the sun behind the stone works best for me.
I''m still getting to know the ''personality'' of this new stone, but these are the actual visual differences I''ve noticed thus far:
1. The new stone is definitely whiter than the I. The difference in color isn''t huge, but it''s definitely there and noticeable to me in a variety of lighting environments. Whereas the old stone used to look slightly tinted from the side, especially in natural light, the new stone never does. The face up color and the side view color are both equally white. Love it!
2. The new stone is more ''firey'' than the old one. Again, it''s a subtle difference, but Rich noted that this stone was particularly ''firey'' and I have to agree. The other stone sparkled a lot, but not like this one.
3. The optical symmetry is better on the new stone -- the arrows are much more prominent and more precisely formed. They''re fatter too and show up more easily in all lighting conditions. What effect that has on performance, I don''t know, but if you like seeing arrows, then it''s a positive. The stone generally seems ''crisper''.
4. The clarity is better on this stone. I was to the point with the old stone where I could pick out the dark carbon spot without looking very hard, both from the face up position and from the side. The grade setting inclusion in this stone is a collection of pinpoints, all white, so I know there''s no way I''ll ever see them with the naked eye.
That''s what I''ve noticed so far. While subtle, the differences are pretty significant to me, especially when combined with the ''mind clean'' differences. I''m just thrilled!!
Thanks for asking!!!
OK, so when you say firey, do you meant it throws off flashes of sharp white light? Or lots of twinkles? Just curious.Date: 7/10/2006 3:45:18 PM
Author: Demelza
2. The new stone is more ''firey'' than the old one. Again, it''s a subtle difference, but Rich noted that this stone was particularly ''firey'' and I have to agree. The other stone sparkled a lot, but not like this one.
Date: 7/10/2006 7:04:23 PM
Author: Lynn B
Date: 7/10/2006 3:45:18 PM
Author: Demelza
Date: 7/10/2006 3:08:36 PM
Author: Kim N
Dem, I''m so glad you were able to find your dream stone, and what a stone it is! It''s incredible.And your pictures of it are amazing. I love all the colors coming off of it, and the silvery arrows, and the shards of light. I''ve been trying to capture pictures like that with my Canon, but I haven''t been able. Whenever I''ve tried to take indoor pictures, it''s given me the camera shake warning for not having enough light. I think I need to try pictures with the sun behind the ring like yours.
Aside from the mind-cleanness, what visual differences do you see between this stone and your old one?
Thanks, Kim! Yes, it seems that taking shots with the sun behind the stone works best for me.
I''m still getting to know the ''personality'' of this new stone, but these are the actual visual differences I''ve noticed thus far:
1. The new stone is definitely whiter than the I. The difference in color isn''t huge, but it''s definitely there and noticeable to me in a variety of lighting environments. Whereas the old stone used to look slightly tinted from the side, especially in natural light, the new stone never does. The face up color and the side view color are both equally white. Love it!
2. The new stone is more ''firey'' than the old one. Again, it''s a subtle difference, but Rich noted that this stone was particularly ''firey'' and I have to agree. The other stone sparkled a lot, but not like this one.
3. The optical symmetry is better on the new stone -- the arrows are much more prominent and more precisely formed. They''re fatter too and show up more easily in all lighting conditions. What effect that has on performance, I don''t know, but if you like seeing arrows, then it''s a positive. The stone generally seems ''crisper''.
4. The clarity is better on this stone. I was to the point with the old stone where I could pick out the dark carbon spot without looking very hard, both from the face up position and from the side. The grade setting inclusion in this stone is a collection of pinpoints, all white, so I know there''s no way I''ll ever see them with the naked eye.
That''s what I''ve noticed so far. While subtle, the differences are pretty significant to me, especially when combined with the ''mind clean'' differences. I''m just thrilled!!
Thanks for asking!!!
Wow, that''s pretty interesting, Alex. So do you feel like you have all the best of your old 1.53 but with... more SIZE?
Date: 7/10/2006 8:46:20 PM
Author: dbgaap
Date: 7/10/2006 3:45:18 PM
Author: Demelza
2. The new stone is more ''firey'' than the old one. Again, it''s a subtle difference, but Rich noted that this stone was particularly ''firey'' and I have to agree. The other stone sparkled a lot, but not like this one.
OK, so when you say firey, do you meant it throws off flashes of sharp white light? Or lots of twinkles? Just curious.
I briefly had an E that had very crisp hearts & arrows. It threw off major flashes of white light.
Your stone is so beautiful! It does seem that the bigger the stone, the more important it is to get high quality.
On Saturday, my hairdresser commented to me ''I see a lot of diamonds and many are bigger than yours, but I don''t often see such a sparkly diamond''. Yep, he got a nice tip.
congratulations on a huge sparkly diamond!!!
Date: 7/10/2006 3:45:18 PM
Author: Demelza
1. The new stone is definitely whiter than the I. The difference in color isn''t huge, but it''s definitely there and noticeable to me in a variety of lighting environments. Whereas the old stone used to look slightly tinted from the side, especially in natural light, the new stone never does. The face up color and the side view color are both equally white. Love it!
2. The new stone is more ''firey'' than the old one. Again, it''s a subtle difference, but Rich noted that this stone was particularly ''firey'' and I have to agree. The other stone sparkled a lot, but not like this one.
3. The optical symmetry is better on the new stone -- the arrows are much more prominent and more precisely formed. They''re fatter too and show up more easily in all lighting conditions. What effect that has on performance, I don''t know, but if you like seeing arrows, then it''s a positive. The stone generally seems ''crisper''.
4. The clarity is better on this stone. I was to the point with the old stone where I could pick out the dark carbon spot without looking very hard, both from the face up position and from the side. The grade setting inclusion in this stone is a collection of pinpoints, all white, so I know there''s no way I''ll ever see them with the naked eye.
That''s what I''ve noticed so far. While subtle, the differences are pretty significant to me, especially when combined with the ''mind clean'' differences. I''m just thrilled!!
Thanks for asking!!!
Well, I am happy to have some company in the higher color and clarity camp! I feel alone sometimes! But I just like all of the C''s to be great, if possible, but I don''t desire a huge stone which makes it possible. I am undecided on color..I am looking at 2 H''s this week. One scores in the G range on Jon''s color machine, so I feel like it will be fine. The other is a solid H, so I don''t know. If I decide to go with an under 1.5 ct., then I may go on and get an F. (There are no G''s right now in my size range, unfortunately). I know myself well enough that I''d be like Dem and be unhappy eventually if I sacrifice too much on color or clarity. But I haven''t seen enough diamonds in good light to be sure of my color tolerance!Date: 7/11/2006 10:10:00 AM
Author: butterfly 17
Date: 7/10/2006 3:45:18 PM
Author: Demelza
1. The new stone is definitely whiter than the I. The difference in color isn''t huge, but it''s definitely there and noticeable to me in a variety of lighting environments. Whereas the old stone used to look slightly tinted from the side, especially in natural light, the new stone never does. The face up color and the side view color are both equally white. Love it!
2. The new stone is more ''firey'' than the old one. Again, it''s a subtle difference, but Rich noted that this stone was particularly ''firey'' and I have to agree. The other stone sparkled a lot, but not like this one.
3. The optical symmetry is better on the new stone -- the arrows are much more prominent and more precisely formed. They''re fatter too and show up more easily in all lighting conditions. What effect that has on performance, I don''t know, but if you like seeing arrows, then it''s a positive. The stone generally seems ''crisper''.
4. The clarity is better on this stone. I was to the point with the old stone where I could pick out the dark carbon spot without looking very hard, both from the face up position and from the side. The grade setting inclusion in this stone is a collection of pinpoints, all white, so I know there''s no way I''ll ever see them with the naked eye.
That''s what I''ve noticed so far. While subtle, the differences are pretty significant to me, especially when combined with the ''mind clean'' differences. I''m just thrilled!!
Thanks for asking!!!
IT so funny that you posted this as these are the same exact reasons why I love my current stone and I am afraid to get another bigger, but perhaps not ''better'' stone, for me anyway.
I love the whiteness of a G. I love not seeing any warmth or yellowness in this stone. I recently got a j colored stone and I can see the color in it. If I hadn''t of gotten it for such a great deal, I probably would not be keeping it right now. Also, The J I have will be set with sapphires, so the color won''t show as much.
I also have a basically perfect clarity stone, even when I had the stone appraised by AGA, Chris told me he felt that they made a mistake at AGS and should have given it a VVS2 because there is just one tiny pinpoint inclusion that I can hardly see with a loupe and believe me, I can see everything!
Also, my stone has such sparkle factor and crisp clear arrows. I love looking at the arrows, I love the optical symmetry. And the fire is unbelievable. I compare it to my other diamonds and nothing compares to it. IT''s like a disco ball!
Also, I am such a color and clarity nut, that even if I try hard enough to convince myself I will be happy with something lower, I don''t really think I will be.
Even getting a G was hard for me, but I chose it over an F at the time because I loved the clarity plot in my G compared to the F. Both were VS stones, but the F had a bunch of tiny inclusions, whereas my G had just the one plotted.
This is what I am afraid of, that I will have to settle for something in order to get the size I want, when I have all the that I want with the stone I have now.
Damn that Diamond Shrinkage Syndrome!
Date: 7/11/2006 2:00:18 PM
Author: Demelza
Kayla -- I so hear ya on this! If you know that you''re a color and clarity nut, I would definitely advise not to make any compromises just for size. I love a huge stone as much as the next person, but, in the end, the size of my ''I'' wasn''t enough to compensate for the compromises I made in the other Cs. If you love everything about your stone now except for the size, my advice would be to wait until another stone comes up in the size you want that has ALL of the characteristics of this stone. Otherwise, it may be a recipe for regret and dissatisfaction. I''m sure that that 2.32 G, SI1 WF stone was absolutely amazing, but I just knew that I would be unhappy if I was able to see an inclusion from any angle. I suspect you would have been the same way. It sucks to be like this because I''m sure we miss out on some large, gorgeous stones at great prices, but better to know this about yourself now than do what I did and lose money.
Date: 7/11/2006 9:35:20 PM
Author: cutey TT
Date: 7/11/2006 2:00:18 PM
Author: Demelza
Kayla -- I so hear ya on this! If you know that you''re a color and clarity nut, I would definitely advise not to make any compromises just for size.
I am right there with you...I can''t get past my fixation on color and clarity.