Question about flipping bezel pendants

[kama_s]

I recently bought a 0.43ct carat diamond bezel pendant, but it keeps flipping sideways or backwards. I initially thought it might be too short on my neck (the chain is 15.5", I normally wear necklaces around 16"). So I added on a few links to the necklace and brought it up to 16.5", but the pendant still flips. It's not flipping as much as it would if I decreased the chain length to the original 15.5". Increasing the chain length beyond 16.5" doesn't seem to make any difference.

Has anyone ever faced a similar problem? How did you fix it? I could possibly send it back to the vendor, but it seems like I'm the only one who is facing this problem with their design. They're abslutely wonderful to deal with, so I'm sure they would help me out. That said, wondering if I can try and fix it on my own at home and avoid shipping hassles to the US and back.

I have pics if anyone would like to see.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

I have two pendants about that size. One is .38 and the other is .41 or .42 (forget exactly) and both flip. The smaller of the two is set into a bezel that was *hand made* by a local jeweler who promised it would lay flat however it doesn''t but rather flips so much that mostly when people look at it, they get a view of the metal wrapped around the girdle. I don''t even wear it! The other is the four-corners basket style from WF and it also flips and sinks into the hollow of my throat.

Both have 16" length chains. I may get an extender to 18" see if a longer chain helps. I also thought of getting a bigger diamond and maybe that would weigh it down. . .however, DH isn''t on the same wave length with that idea.

 

[kama_s]

Date: 1/7/2010 5:31:57 PM
Author: MC
I also thought of getting a bigger diamond and maybe that would weigh it down. . .however, DH isn''t on the same wave length with that idea.

Hmm, I was under the impression that a heavier diamond would flip more. I also wonder if it depends on where the chain goes through the pendant - if it''s lower on the pendant and the stone is top heavy, there would be more chances of flipping, I think.

Did you ever contact WF and ask them how you can prevent the pendants from flipping?

Thanks for sharing, MC.

 

[Bella_mezzo]

I''m interested to hear the answers. I was going to get a bezel pendant and jsut decided against it b/c I was afraid of flipping...

 

[jstarfireb]

I have a 0.5ct diamond bezel pendant from WF and it doesn''t flip. It''s their stock bezel setting.

 

[kama_s]

Date: 1/7/2010 6:54:59 PM
Author: jstarfireb
I have a 0.5ct diamond bezel pendant from WF and it doesn't flip. It's their stock bezel setting.

Interesting. Could I be so bold and ask what the length of your chain is? Also, what part of the pendant does the chain go through? Mine seems to be at the lower end, so maybe that causes it to flip?

 

[Bliss]

How is the bezel set? I think if you had it set in the DBTY setting, it wouldn''t flip as much? I have a DBTY diamond pendant that never flips. I''ve had it for years and not once has it ever ever flipped...ever. Mine is about a carat. I couldn''t even make it flip if I tried.

However, I have another DBTY chain with .15 melee spaced out and those suckers flip all the time. I think those diamonds are so small they''re supposed to flip so I''m OK with that. Both are 16" and plat so it''s not the heavier metal or the length making the difference. Still, .43 is a nice size that shouldn''t flip as much.

Another style bezel that doesn''t flip is the heavier bezel - I''ll try to find a photo!

I think this is an alternate style that won''t flip as much.

 

[katiedid]

I recently reset my martini pendant into a bezel and I love it. The thread is here:https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/introducing-my-new-bezel-pendant.127802/

It doesn''t flip at all. The chain is 16 inches and slides through the back of the bezel. The stone is .75 ct so it''s a little heavier and the bezel is not as dainty as I''d originally wanted, but I think this actually might help it stay put.

 

[katiedid]

sorry - link is now clickable!
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/introducing-my-new-bezel-pendant.127802/

 

[katiedid]

or not...

 

[kama_s]

Thanks for your replies, Bliss and Katiedid.

Looking at Katiedid''s pictures, it seems like perhaps my chain goes through the pendant lower. I wonder if that''s what''s causing the flipping? The diamond''s mostly on the upper side, so the pendant''s top heavy hence displacing the centre of mass.

Attaching a close-up of my pendant...

 

[4ever]

Your pendant looks exactly like mine and is the same size, I think it may be the same vendor.

I think mine is a 18" chain and on a slider. It dosn't so much flip as 'tip' forwards so the daimond is facing down. I corrects it'self on it's own when I move most times. At first it bothered me quite a bit but it dosn't now as 9 times out of ten when I look in a mirror it's behaving it's self. I think having the slider holes closer together and/or closer to the front might help stop the flipping.

 

[gemgirl]

Date: 1/7/2010 7:45:51 PM
Author: katiedid
sorry - link is now clickable!
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/introducing-my-new-bezel-pendant.127802/

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[kama_s]

Date: 1/7/2010 11:10:15 PM
Author: 4ever
Your pendant looks exactly like mine and is the same size, I think it may be the same vendor.

I think mine is a 18'' chain and on a slider. It dosn''t so much flip as ''tip'' forwards so the daimond is facing down. I corrects it''self on it''s own when I move most times. At first it bothered me quite a bit but it dosn''t now as 9 times out of ten when I look in a mirror it''s behaving it''s self. I think having the slider holes closer together and/or closer to the front might help stop the flipping.

It is, indeed, the same vendor. I was hoping you''d chime in

Mine tips or flips 90% of the time. I think it might have to do with the chain length being too short. Blah. Maybe I should just ask them what to do.

 

[Lurchie]

Kama, I''m not sure the chain length is the issue. I have a 15.5" chain on my bezel pendant (pics here https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/bgd-k-si1-in-a-rose-gold-bezel-pendant-with-beaded-chain.130034/) and while the shorter chain length does bring some issues, my pendant doesn''t flip on its own. It does tend to migrate a bit though, and it will flip temporarily when I put it back in its place, but on its own it stays put I think. I think you''re right that it has more to do with how top heavy the diamond is due to chain placement.

 

[gemgirl]

You might want to consider asking your jeweler to solder two tiny sizing beads at around the 8:00 and 4:00 positions on the inside of the back of the bezel to help weight the pendant down. The beads would make it bottom heavy

and that would stop it from tipping or rolling.

 

[Skippy123]

I am sorry about the flipping; I have a bezel but it is on a thicker chain and bit thicker bezel and it doesn't flip so maybe it is the chain? I want to see more pics of your gorgeous new beauty!!!

I hope it stops flipping.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Date: 1/7/2010 6:35:04 PM
Author: kama_s
Did you ever contact WF and ask them how you can prevent the pendants from flipping?

Nope, I haven''t called WF. I kind of wonder if it comes down to the chain kind of being twisted around a bit as I take it on and off. I''ll have to look and see if that is the case.

My bigger diamond, less flipping, was just a theory. lol Too bad it may not be the case

 

[LD]

Many styles of pendant flip (it drives me bonkers). However from experience I''ve found that sliders don''t flip - similar to the photos posted above OR, and this is a bit difficult to describe, imagine cutting the chain where the pendant sits. Then you solder one side of the chain at about 2 o''clock and the other at 10 o''clock. However unless the chain / diamond is heavy it may move off centre during wear. Personally speaking, a slider with the "holes" placed at 2 and 10 o''clock works best.

 

[4ever]

Date: 1/8/2010 10:38:56 AM
Author: kama_s

Date: 1/7/2010 11:10:15 PM
Author: 4ever
Your pendant looks exactly like mine and is the same size, I think it may be the same vendor.

I think mine is a 18'' chain and on a slider. It dosn''t so much flip as ''tip'' forwards so the daimond is facing down. I corrects it''self on it''s own when I move most times. At first it bothered me quite a bit but it dosn''t now as 9 times out of ten when I look in a mirror it''s behaving it''s self. I think having the slider holes closer together and/or closer to the front might help stop the flipping.

It is, indeed, the same vendor. I was hoping you''d chime in

Mine tips or flips 90% of the time. I think it might have to do with the chain length being too short. Blah. Maybe I should just ask them what to do.

Hmmm, I would definatly guess chain length because other than that our two pendants are extreamly similar. Do you have a neck shot of how high the pendant sits on your chest? I think because mine is longer the pendant dosn''t ''dangle'' high on my neck,instead the back of the pendant rests flat on my chest below my collor bones. I can imagine that if the chain was much shorter and the pendant sat between my collor bones where it''s not so ''flat'' it would allow alot more movement and would make it ''tip'' forwards more.

 

[kama_s]

Date: 1/8/2010 12:48:46 PM
Author: Lurchie
Kama, I''m not sure the chain length is the issue. I have a 15.5'' chain on my bezel pendant (pics here https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/bgd-k-si1-in-a-rose-gold-bezel-pendant-with-beaded-chain.130034/) and while the shorter chain length does bring some issues, my pendant doesn''t flip on its own. It does tend to migrate a bit though, and it will flip temporarily when I put it back in its place, but on its own it stays put I think. I think you''re right that it has more to do with how top heavy the diamond is due to chain placement.

I think your mickey mouse setting might help with the flipping. Alas, mine''s already set as a slider. I generally love my setting, except for this blasted issue of flipping!

 

[kama_s]

Date: 1/8/2010 1:14:40 PM
Author: gemgirl
You might want to consider asking your jeweler to solder two tiny sizing beads at around the 8:00 and 4:00 positions on the inside of the back of the bezel to help weight the pendant down. The beads would make it bottom heavy

and that would stop it from tipping or rolling.

I really like this suggestion, it might actually work. I sent the vendor an e-mail earlier today, and I''ll suggest this to them once I receive a response back. Thanks!

 

[D2B]

I have the same piece as KamaS but it is from BGD, a stuller setting that my diamond was put into. It also flipps, but now I am used to it and it always seems to flip back when I move. Slighly annoying, but I love the sliding bezel look and I like how it is so fluid and moves around on my neck.

 

[kama_s]

Date: 1/8/2010 1:20:10 PM
Author: Skippy123
I am sorry about the flipping; I have a bezel but it is on a thicker chain and bit thicker bezel and it doesn''t flip so maybe it is the chain? I want to see more pics of your gorgeous new beauty!!!

I hope it stops flipping.

I promise to post more pics once this issue of flipping is dealt with! I LOVE your bezel, Skips, wanna exchange?

 

[kama_s]

Date: 1/8/2010 3:52:57 PM
Author: LovingDiamonds
Many styles of pendant flip (it drives me bonkers). However from experience I''ve found that sliders don''t flip - similar to the photos posted above OR, and this is a bit difficult to describe, imagine cutting the chain where the pendant sits. Then you solder one side of the chain at about 2 o''clock and the other at 10 o''clock. However unless the chain / diamond is heavy it may move off centre during wear. Personally speaking, a slider with the ''holes'' placed at 2 and 10 o''clock works best.

My pendant is exactly at 2 and 10 o''clock. Others have the exact same setting an haven''t had any issues with it. Maybe I just have a weird-ass neck?

 

[kama_s]

Date: 1/8/2010 4:26:16 PM
Author: 4ever
Hmmm, I would definatly guess chain length because other than that our two pendants are extreamly similar. Do you have a neck shot of how high the pendant sits on your chest? I think because mine is longer the pendant dosn''t ''dangle'' high on my neck,instead the back of the pendant rests flat on my chest below my collor bones. I can imagine that if the chain was much shorter and the pendant sat between my collor bones where it''s not so ''flat'' it would allow alot more movement and would make it ''tip'' forwards more.

Yeah, at 15.5" it''s much above my collar bone. At 16.5" it''s just below/at my collar bone, so it doesn''t flip as much. Here are some pics for you:

Sitting at 15.5" on my neck. Sorry I don''t have a better shot of this.

 

[kama_s]

At 16.5":

 

[4ever]

Looks like mine sits just a little bit lower than yours at 16.5" but not by alot ( mines 18" but I''m probably quite a bit larger then you).

Just a suggestion to see it a slightly longer chain would do the trick without watsing the money if it dosn''t work; you could try buying a cheap necklace extender (small length of chain that the clasp can attach to any ring of) and claw clasp from a craft store. Attach the claw clasp to the end of the extender with a jump ring. Then you can attach the clasp of the extender to the end of the chain of your necklace and the clasp of your necklace to one of the extension rings. Wear it around a bit and you can figgure out if the longer chain stops the flipping and by adjusting the length, just how much longer the chain would have to be to fix the issue and also if that''s longer than you like the look of and if you''d rather just try a different setting.

It may sound complicated but you can get the little clasp and extention for next to nothing at craft or jewlery making/bead stores and it might help you figgure out what you want to do to fix the flipping. Hopefully you just need an ever so slightly longer chain.

Good luck.

 

[kama_s]

4ever: Thanks again for chiming in. I did actually try to make it longer than 16.5". It didn''t make it flip any less than when it was 16.5". I also didn''t like how it looked longer, I prefer it sitting just under my collar bone. Looks like 16.5" was the magic number for me. I suppose I could live with it flipping 20% of the time, a definite improvement from the 90%!

 

[kcoursolle]

I think it might be flipping because the pendant depth is fairly deep. I have one that is set very shallow (the culet practically touches my neck) and it doesn''t flip. Maybe they can shave a little off the back.