Questions that make you think

[fire&ice]

The doctor had no choice than to report it. And, the mother probably didn''t think about this.

The bears did NOT have rabies. There were some reports that the mother lifted the child over the fence. She has come out to say that the child scaled the 4 foot fence. In 20 years, no one has escaped over the fence - let alone a 4 year old boy. She also said that she called 2 hours after the euthanasia to say the boy would go with the rabies treatment - convenient or did our local CDC act too quickly? She waited 4 days to call. It''s interesting that locally - it is the mothers that are being the most hard on this women. All the one''s I talked to would be proactive with the rabies treatment. Thanks for your opinions. The whole city has taken this very hard.

 

[hlmr]

Date: 3/1/2006 10:32:21 AM
Author: fire&ice
The doctor had no choice than to report it. And, the mother probably didn''t think about this.

The bears did NOT have rabies. There were some reports that the mother lifted the child over the fence. She has come out to say that the child scaled the 4 foot fence. In 20 years, no one has escaped over the fence - let alone a 4 year old boy. She also said that she called 2 hours after the euthanasia to say the boy would go with the rabies treatment - convenient or did our local CDC act too quickly? She waited 4 days to call. It''s interesting that locally - it is the mothers that are being the most hard on this women. All the one''s I talked to would be proactive with the rabies treatment. Thanks for your opinions. The whole city has taken this very hard.

Oh, I am so sorry to hear of this terrible outcome. It makes me feel ashamed of our human arrogance and irresponsibility.

Heather

 

[Caribou]

These questions reminded me of something that I watched awhile ago, I can''t remember if it was a something that actually happened or TV but I''m pretty sure it actually happened.....let me see if I can remember how this goes....

A family is at their cabin in the woods and are all outside. There is the father, mother, and their 3 kids (2 toddler aged kids and 1 infant). The infant is on the deck in a car seat, while the rest of the family is scattered in the area. Suddenly a bear comes out of the woods (this is wear I get foggy with details). The parents are not close enough together that they can help each other, the mother is playing with one child on the swing set, the father is BBQing with the other child. The infant is in eye shot, safely on the deck. However, the bear is coming fast, the parents only have enough time to get 2 of their children into the cabin. Who doesn''t make it? Utimately it was the infant who didn''t make it. The mother and father got both the toddlers in the house and the mother went back to get the infant but by that point it was way too late.

I remember that this story caused an uproar because no one could understand how both parents couldn''t have saved all 3 children and they suspected it wasn''t true and that they actually killed the infant. I don''t remember the outcome though.

Does anyone remember this?

 

[aljdewey]

Date: 2/28/2006 10:19:57 PM
Author: MINE!!

Date: 2/28/2006 10:11:08 PM

Boy (4) goes to park with mother. Park has two resident orphaned bears (a town institution!). Unknown how he ended up inside one of two fences, boy goes over fence & approaches the bears behind their 10'' chain link fence. Boy has an apple or apple smell on his hands. Boy sticks his hand through the chain link fence to pet or feed bears. One of the two Bears punctured hand of boy - not an attack or in an agressive manner. Mother takes boy to doctor. Doctor has to report to the health officals about the bite.

Since it is unknown which bear ''bit'', either both bears must be euthanized to determine rabies (unknown gestation in bears so can''t be quarantined, etc) or child must undergo the rabies regimen (not as big of a deal as it once was). What would you, the mother, choose?

Well... if the bear lives or dies is not our choice. That was not what was presented. it was whether or not our we would report the incident if it meant that the state had to kill the bear.

I think you misread this, Mine. The choice isn''t whether or not she reports it.....she took the boy to the doctor, and the doctor HAS to report it.

The choice the mother faces is this: Does she opt to have the bears euthanized (so she can determine if they are actually rabid and possibly avoid rabies regimen for her son), or does she opt against euthanization, which means her kid has to undergo rabies regimen since it cannot be determined if the bears are rabid or not.

 

[fire&ice]

Date: 3/1/2006 11:19:44 AM


The choice the mother faces is this: Does she opt to have the bears euthanized (so she can determine if they are actually rabid and possibly avoid rabies regimen for her son), or does she opt against euthanization, which means her kid has to undergo rabies regimen since it cannot be determined if the bears are rabid or not.

Exactly - that''s what I found interesting about this real life senerio - it was that black and white. The CDC in Atlanta reviewed it & those were the only options. Now, the story, ater the fact, is morphing into a pointing of the finger gray area - which is pissing me & most of the other residents off.

You take responsibility for your own actions - which is the outcome of any of the senerios listed. You make a choice. You have to live with that choice.

 

[LAJennifer]

Date: 2/28/2006 10:18:03 PM
Author: Mara

Date: 2/28/2006 10:15:01 PM
Author: *~Sweetpea~*

Date: 2/28/2006 9:06:16 PM
Author: LAJennifer
Morals and conscience aside, I think you have to consider biology as a reason for people''s choices when choosing siblings and significant others. The biological urge to ''survive'' is probably the strongest natural ''urge'' concerning all species in the animal kingdom. And by '' to survive'', I mean to pass along our own genetics. Our siblings have similar genetics to ourselves, so our urge to save them over strangers would ensure survival of our family genes (just as the girl was referring to her brother as 100% blood, over her half sister and step sister - her brother''s genetics are most like her own, so she chooses him over her other siblings). We all want our own genes to ''survive'' whether we are aware of it or not. The same goes for significant others - they are mates of choice, which help us to pass on our own genetics. I also read a study that concluded, more often than not, people choose marriage partners with similar genetics to their own - to pass on their own genes as unaltered as possible. Of course this isn''t always the case, but certainly accounts for all those couples that look alike.

I would choose my sibling.
I would choose my cats.
I would choose my SO.

I heard that this is why men would prefer to marry plainer women than gorgeous women...b/c more of their traits would pass on...I''m not sure if that''s true but I do know I would clock FI one good if he ever said I was plain and he was happy to pass on his genes!!!

Greg keeps saying he is afraid that our kid will be basically a mini version of my Mother, aka how I am and how my other sister is...''he is like your mom''s genes are so strong they will probably overpower mine, I better start beefing them up!''

I know I sure ain''t plain and I think our kids will be an interesting blend!! If we do have any that is.

I couldn''t find the actual study I was referring to, but this is similar:

http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/060214_face_personality.html

 

[bookworm21]

I'd tell him to shoot me. I can't imagine life without my bf, so I'd rather die instead. Sounds dramatic, but I don't want him hurt in any way if I can prevent it.

ETA: This is answer to question 5

 

[XChick03]

Thanks everyone for all your replies. You''ve all been great.