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Rank these Emeralds, Please help me!

rocku

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let's have some fun. :wavey:

I found these emeralds from difference websites.
Would love to have your opinion.
Please help me rank them with and without price consideration.
Any comments are very very welcome.

Without price tag, I would go for A. with price tag, maybe B, but is it too light? :?:

A. From Gemsny, great color, vvs2, come with GIA report states only minor treatment, but very expensive. :$$):
http://www.gemsny.com/loose-emerald/2.19-Carat-Emerald-Emerald-E10090AEC/

B. From Embassy Emeralds, looks clean, just medium green, reasnable price.
http://www.embassyemeralds.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=&products_id=418

C. From Serenity Diamonds, looks great, but I like A better
http://serenity-diamonds.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=18&LotNo=EM-EM-0422

D. From Lisa, Price and treatment unknown at this point, looks clean, but light blue/green/
http://www.lisaelser.com/catalog/item/7541609/7984012.htm
 
I like the 2nd one the best, hands down. The color and the cut are my favorite on that one. It doesn't seem that light to me, but maybe I prefer lighter emeralds and don't even realize it... It just seems brighter than the other stones.
 
Thank you, I suspect B is treated, heavily.
Will it become a little darker after being mounted?

stargurl78|1358946670|3362200 said:
I like the 2nd one the best, hands down. The color and the cut are my favorite on that one. It doesn't seem that light to me, but maybe I prefer lighter emeralds and don't even realize it... It just seems brighter than the other stones.
 
I haven't looked at the price tags so am commenting purely on what I see in the gemstone photos.

B is beautiful. I love that you can clearly see the blue and green. Each photograph is gorgeous of it. One slight jardin but hardly noticeable. I would happily buy this.

D is beautiful also. Lisa cuts her own stones and is great to work with. You'd be in safe hands with her! BTW this one says it's been oiled which is fine. Just ask Lisa what type of oil and if she knows the level of the oiling ie severe, moderate, light. I suspect only light judging by the clarity. The ONLY downside is the one slight jardin that is more noticeable and more central in the gem than in B above but that's being very picky. Again, I would happily buy this. The larger photo was linked in one of your other threads and looked magnificent.

A I would discount purely because the photos look odd and manipulated. I don't know how they've been taken but because these are not great photographs I would discount it (because B and D are REAL contenders if the price is right for you).

C - yuck (sorry)! The clarity is awful. It's very cloudy and will always look like it needs a good clean. The performance will be affected. Personally with B and D in the running, this one, for me, should be first to be screened out.

Hope that helps.

Edit: I doubt very much that B or D have been heavily treated based on the clarity. They are actually very similar and both lovely.
 
Saying that the retail price of the first stone is $23,000 is a joke, sorry. I dislike vendors who play the "huge discount" game as a sales technique.

Is there a reason for you to believe that stone B (Embassy Emeralds) has had more treatment that the oil the vendor states? If you distrust the vendor, I would move on or make very sure that the sale is contingent on a lab report.

LD - I think you mean that B and D are contenders, right? At least, that was the impression I got from your post.
 
I would personally buy D. I like the color, clarity and cut of it. I have never purchased an emerald & I am not an expert re. emeralds. This stone was just the most appealing to me. Have fun with your search!!! :appl:
 
Lady_Disdain|1358947319|3362211 said:
Saying that the retail price of the first stone is $23,000 is a joke, sorry. I dislike vendors who play the "huge discount" game as a sales technique.

Is there a reason for you to believe that stone B (Embassy Emeralds) has had more treatment that the oil the vendor states? If you distrust the vendor, I would move on or make very sure that the sale is contingent on a lab report.

LD - I think you mean that B and D are contenders, right? At least, that was the impression I got from your post.

Yes I did Lady D - I edited it a minute ago probably while you were posting! Thanks for catching that though. x

OMG I had missed the price of A! I was concentrating only on the stones. OP - step far away from that one. That's a complete joke! I absolutely agree with Lady D.
 
LD,
You don't think either B or D will be too light after being mounted?
 
Lady_Disdain ,

B has been shown here just recently, and it looks odd in some pictures and light too.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/please-help-with-my-emerald-e-ring-search.183281/page-3#post-3356945#p3356945']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/please-help-with-my-emerald-e-ring-search.183281/page-3#post-3356945#p3356945[/URL]

The only reason that made me think B has more treatment, is the relatively low price.
I don't know if that makes any sense to you, I have not reason to distrust the vendor.



Lady_Disdain|1358947319|3362211 said:
Saying that the retail price of the first stone is $23,000 is a joke, sorry. I dislike vendors who play the "huge discount" game as a sales technique.

Is there a reason for you to believe that stone B (Embassy Emeralds) has had more treatment that the oil the vendor states? If you distrust the vendor, I would move on or make very sure that the sale is contingent on a lab report.

LD - I think you mean that B and D are contenders, right? At least, that was the impression I got from your post.
 
I did look at prices. Is the price of "c" a joke?! 6500.00 for that hideous gem!?
 
rocku|1358948243|3362218 said:
LD,
You don't think either B or D will be too light after being mounted?


No I don't. There's a fine line between having life and then being a little bit too dark (or losing some of the blue). Darker ones can (not always) have too much yellow in them and I personally don't like that.

I also would NOT judge price -v- treatment. Some of the most heavily treated gemstones will have a selling price far in excess of those that haven't! It depends on the Vendor. Embassy Emeralds are in the business of Emeralds and I believe will have the information to hand - just give them a call.
 
I will be in touch with them.
Did you realize that option B has been shown here just recently? :D
And I don't know what to make of the 1st pic, since it is kind of out off focused.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/files/_2970.jpg']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/files/_2970.jpg[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/files/_2972.jpg']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/files/_2972.jpg[/URL]


LD|1358951822|3362235 said:
rocku|1358948243|3362218 said:
LD,
You don't think either B or D will be too light after being mounted?


No I don't. There's a fine line between having life and then being a little bit too dark (or losing some of the blue). Darker ones can (not always) have too much yellow in them and I personally don't like that.

I also would NOT judge price -v- treatment. Some of the most heavily treated gemstones will have a selling price far in excess of those that haven't! It depends on the Vendor. Embassy Emeralds are in the business of Emeralds and I believe will have the information to hand - just give them a call.
 
What do you think of the front runner "B" :wavey:

soberguy|1358951502|3362233 said:
I did look at prices. Is the price of "c" a joke?! 6500.00 for that hideous gem!?
 
Double posted
 
rocku|1358953324|3362250 said:
I will be in touch with them.
Did you realize that option B has been shown here just recently? :D
And I don't know what to make of the 1st pic, since it is kind of out off focused.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/files/_2970.jpg']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/files/_2970.jpg[/URL]

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/forum/files/_2972.jpg']https://www.pricescope.com/forum/files/_2972.jpg[/URL]


LD|1358951822|3362235 said:
rocku|1358948243|3362218 said:
LD,
You don't think either B or D will be too light after being mounted?


No I don't. There's a fine line between having life and then being a little bit too dark (or losing some of the blue). Darker ones can (not always) have too much yellow in them and I personally don't like that.

I also would NOT judge price -v- treatment. Some of the most heavily treated gemstones will have a selling price far in excess of those that haven't! It depends on the Vendor. Embassy Emeralds are in the business of Emeralds and I believe will have the information to hand - just give them a call.


Was that the Emerald that was called #1 in Eggvillan's thread? I know it wasn't any of the others because the carat size doesn't fit. If it was #1 is was everybody's favourite then but I thought he'd bought it! However I thought #1 was smaller in carat weight than 2.4ct?

2.4ct doesn't match the other three in the photo.
 
I 'm positive that B is the big emerald cut one on the right side in these pics.
 
B and D for me. A is beautiful but very expensive! Also, there is concern that the stone will not look as pretty as pictured based on a few other GemsNY gem posts recently. C looks cloudy but I don't know if it's just the picture. I lean towards B though on all the factors given.
 
I don't know the level of treatment, but the pictures appeal to me.
 
B or D are the two I would consider; I would eliminate the other two. I wouldn't be surprised if B turns out to be the most affordable.
 
I suspect that the first two are taken under optimal lighting conditions for emeralds. I would want to see them under the same lighting that #3 used.
 
I am in touch with him, will post later.
 
You are right! It turn out that d costs two time as b, while I have hard time to see the difference,...

TL|1359156077|3363721 said:
I suspect that the first two are taken under optimal lighting conditions for emeralds. I would want to see them under the same lighting that #3 used.
 
Emeralds always look much better IRL, and are notoriously difficult to properly photograph, even in optimal lighting conditions. I have some beautiful Colombian emeralds that look clean, and satiny to me, but when I photograph them, they look cloudy and similar to the 3rd photo. I suspect that dealer is just taking a photo in the type of light source where you can see everything going on in the stone, and there's nothing to hide. Even so, emeralds almost always look better IRL, unless they're photoshopped to look much better.
 
TL,
Glad to see you back and your expertise in emeralds is timely. :wavey:
 
rocku|1358948452|3362220 said:


B was definitely not in those pictures - I believe the larger stone in those pics was this one: http://www.embassyemeralds.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=&products_id=497


I know B wasn't in those pics, because i only requested comparison pics of stones that were in my price range. Your B was outside of that range :)

I ended up purchasing my #1 from embassy and i am EXTREMELY pleased with it. I'm in the process of having it set, and i'll make sure to post pics when its all done (March 3rd-ish)

wasn't intending to hi-jack your thread.... hope this clarification helped
 
rocku|1358948452|3362220 said:


B was definitely not in those pictures - I believe the larger stone in those pics was this one: http://www.embassyemeralds.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=&products_id=497


I know B wasn't in those pics, because i only requested comparison pics of stones that were in my price range. Your B was outside of that range :)

I ended up purchasing my #1 from embassy and i am EXTREMELY pleased with it. I'm in the process of having it set, and i'll make sure to post pics when its all done (March 3rd-ish)

wasn't intending to hi-jack your thread.... hope this clarification helped
 
So Eggvilian, its the perfect time for you to weigh in. You can tell us how you found your Embassy Emerald in hand compared to the online photos. That might help Rocku interpret the photos better.
 
Eggvillan,

Your input on this vendor is very important for us. :appl:
How was it, was the stone look as good as the pic he sent to you?
Did you get the stone looked by other pros?

Thank you !!!!
LE


Eggvillan|1359400413|3365628 said:
rocku|1358948452|3362220 said:


B was definitely not in those pictures - I believe the larger stone in those pics was this one: http://www.embassyemeralds.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&manufacturers_id=&products_id=497


I know B wasn't in those pics, because i only requested comparison pics of stones that were in my price range. Your B was outside of that range :)

I ended up purchasing my #1 from embassy and i am EXTREMELY pleased with it. I'm in the process of having it set, and i'll make sure to post pics when its all done (March 3rd-ish)

wasn't intending to hi-jack your thread.... hope this clarification helped
 
minousbijoux|1359400682|3365636 said:
So Eggvilian, its the perfect time for you to weigh in. You can tell us how you found your Embassy Emerald in hand compared to the online photos. That might help Rocku interpret the photos better.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/please-help-with-my-emerald-e-ring-search.183281/page-3#post-3356945#p3356945']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/please-help-with-my-emerald-e-ring-search.183281/page-3#post-3356945#p3356945[/URL]

(i purchased the leftmost / bottom-left stone)

It was certainly better in-hand than it looked in the photos. While the photos depicted some slight jardin, i can't see any with the naked eye (unless i'm really trying to look for it, and even then there is virtually nothing to be seen). The color was a bit more of an intense green than in the photos - but not drastically so. In essence, it looked so great to the naked eye that if i saw it in a jewelry store, i would have assumed it was lab-created. (it came with a nicer certificate from CDTEC)

Embassy Emerald's pictures of B dont look quite as intensely green as their stock pictures of the one i purchased - but im guessing it would be at least a little bit "greener" in real life.

Either way, I'm betting that you would be absolutely thrilled by B. I encourage you to contact embassy emeralds with questions or requests for comparison pictures (maybe asking him to put it next to a stone that looks "greener"?). Garrett is easy to work with, and will give you his honest opinions of the stones.

EDIT: Just to clarify - if you're the type of person who would rather email, Garrett was very responsive to my many pestering emails...

I havent had the stone appraised or sent to a lab, but the jeweler i took it to to be set (a member of the american gem society - http://www.americangemsociety.org/find-a-jeweler) commented that it was a very nice stone. He had a similarly sized (but slightly lower quality) emerald set in a basic ring in the store, and was asking $7000 for the ring - in comparison, i paid a little over $2200 for my stone.

I feel like i got a great value from Embassy, and i am not at all hesitant to recommend them to anyone


hope this helps.... and good luck!
 
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