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Reckon this pear is *really* eye-clean? (w/ pic)

kaydizzle

kaydizzle

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Hi Everyone

Do you think that this stone is eye clean? It's a 2.20 carat Pear, SI1.

I've been told it's "1000% eye-clean". Something tells me it may not be, and I'm not willing to take a punt on it if it's not...

Your thoughts appreciated! :D

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KayDizzle
 
May be eye clean but that huge dark bow tie turns me off.
 
kaydizzle|1359894251|3371021 said:
Hi Everyone

Do you think that this stone is eye clean? It's a 2.20 carat Pear, SI1.

I've been told it's "1000% eye-clean". Something tells me it may not be, and I'm not willing to take a punt on it if it's not...

Your thoughts appreciated! :D

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KayDizzle
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id bet it is but i dont like it. so you are still on your hunt for the perfect pear? I assumed by your avatar you had one, but i remember you saying it was difficult to search for pears... Like I said on that other post if you are still looking contact GoG. They are the best at finding pears. and its really the best way to go. Whats your budget for the stone?
 
post the grading report here.

for such a large sized diamond at SI1 it raises some suspicions.

Under such a high magnification and all the inclusions look too good to be true for an SI1.
 
Nielseel - The budget is up to 25,000.
I don't have a pear yet. I just love them, so I posted a pic of one in my profile.
Essentially I'm after something 2 carat or over, VS2 or SI1 (totally eye-clean), D-F, not too deep, size around 10.5x7.25 or more.
I'll email GOG today, but any additional suggestions on searching etc would always be welcome. :)
Thanks again!
 
kaydizzle|1359903020|3371078 said:
Nielseel - The budget is up to 25,000.
I don't have a pear yet. I just love them, so I posted a pic of one in my profile.
Essentially I'm after something 2 carat or over, VS2 or SI1 (totally eye-clean), D-F, not too deep, size around 10.5x7.25 or more.
I'll email GOG today, but any additional suggestions on searching etc would always be welcome. :)
Thanks again!
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oh good do contact them i think they could find you something great with that budget.
Nothing good on JA for your budget but im sure you looked there already. The search for pears is heard, but when you add the fact that there are fewer at your size range, it makes it that much harder to find one on your own. Just have John at GOG do it, he's good at that sort of thing :lol:
 
Isn't there a black inclusion right at the middle towards the left tip? or is that a spot on a photo? Same with one at the base of the pear on the lower right side --- or again --- is that a spot on the pic? if not spots, then to me, that would not be eye clean.
 
Enerchi|1359904653|3371095 said:
Isn't there a black inclusion right at the middle towards the left tip? or is that a spot on a photo? Same with one at the base of the pear on the lower right side --- or again --- is that a spot on the pic? if not spots, then to me, that would not be eye clean.
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yes there is youre right. im wondering if the person selling it thinks the faceting if the pear will hide it.. Which it does a little. like athenaworth's new FLY pear. in those pictures you can see some black inclusions but she ways she can see them other than in the pictures.
 
Here are some options. JA also give a 5% discount to PS members. And you get to see videos of the stone. I'd confirm all of these are eye clean. You can't look at a picture that's 40x and see a few dots and base your decision on that because you'll never see it that way.

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/pear-cut/2.01-carat-D-color-SI1-clarity-sku-167579 (no bowtie :) )

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/pear-cut/2.05-carat-E-color-SI1-clarity-sku-36603

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/pear-cut/2.02-carat-G-color-IF-clarity-sku-131052 (very very clean and a G but with faint fluorescence! I could stare at this one all day :love: ).

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/pear-cut/2.03-carat-G-color-VS1-clarity-sku-86005

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/pear-cut/2.27-carat-G-color-VVS2-clarity-sku-168304 (should you want something bigger with a gorgeous cut :naughty: with the discount this would be you at about 30k).

Also - if you like any of these put up to 3 on hold and request aset images.
 
04diamond<3|1359920666|3371300 said:
JA also give a 5% discount to PS members.
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Hi 04diamond<3,

Thank you for the recommendations and consideration. Regarding your statement above, however, it's not true. We've always offered something special to the Pricescope community, but it has never been a flat 5% discount and has actually varied from 1-5% depending on the exact diamond. An additional 1.5% bank wire discount is also available, which we advertise on our website and is on top of anything we offer Pricescope visitors.

I just wanted to clarify to avoid any disappointment later on.

All the best,
 
James Allen Schultz|1359922374|3371329 said:
04diamond<3|1359920666|3371300 said:
JA also give a 5% discount to PS members.
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Hi 04diamond<3,

Thank you for the recommendations and consideration. Regarding your statement above, however, it's not true. We've always offered something special to the Pricescope community, but it has never been a flat 5% discount and has actually varied from 1-5% depending on the exact diamond. An additional 1.5% bank wire discount is also available, which we advertise on our website and is on top of anything we offer Pricescope visitors.

I just wanted to clarify to avoid any disappointment later on.

All the best,
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Oh, I'm sorry! Thanks for the clarification! I had seen it said on here by others and though that's what it came to. Is the PS price not going to be shown anymore?
 
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. This does give me some food for thought! (and oh how I love looking at DBL stuff generally anyway... *swoon*)

I like the DBL setting, Nielseel - very lovely. As for the other stones from JA, the G's do look quite good, but what is the ideal depth for a pear? I understood that you need to look at about 58-63% depth, and some of the options in the thread, although seeming beautiful in the pics, are 49-56% deep. So quite shallow.

Does a shallow stone reflect less light?
 
There are a few goodies on JA, 04diamond<3 - thanks for those suggestions.

I am wondering if I'll see the color in a G, as I had an H before and was so disappointed to realize that I'm color sensitive. I totally saw color so it was a return on the H. Quite sad, as otherwise it was a totally beeeeautiful stone. Barely any bow-tie, sparkled like nothing else, fabulous shape and a VS2. boo.

So, my search continues...
 
kaydizzle|1359931384|3371441 said:
There are a few goodies on JA, 04diamond<3 - thanks for those suggestions.

I am wondering if I'll see the color in a G, as I had an H before and was so disappointed to realize that I'm color sensitive. I totally saw color so it was a return on the H. Quite sad, as otherwise it was a totally beeeeautiful stone. Barely any bow-tie, sparkled like nothing else, fabulous shape and a VS2. boo.

So, my search continues...
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my H i can see some color in at times, but i do know places like good old gold say you want to stay G or above to avoid seeing color, so i bet you would be fine. If you like it id have them pull it for you, it might be a high G and you would be fine...plus, those are kind of general guidelines for pears... if it looks sparkly than it is lol....
Is that DBL one out of range? i wasnt sure what you would pay for a setting so i thought id throw it out
 
:shock: :love: :shock:

that DBL one neilseel posted --- OMG!!! Is that within your budget?? WOW is it ever amazing! and I have to say --- I'm LOVING the little bubble inclusions in there! (not a technical description, just what it reminds me of!)
 
kaydizzle|1359931384|3371441 said:
There are a few goodies on JA, 04diamond<3 - thanks for those suggestions.

I am wondering if I'll see the color in a G, as I had an H before and was so disappointed to realize that I'm color sensitive. I totally saw color so it was a return on the H. Quite sad, as otherwise it was a totally beeeeautiful stone. Barely any bow-tie, sparkled like nothing else, fabulous shape and a VS2. boo.

So, my search continues...
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Which G are you referring to? The 2.02 is totally white because it has fluorescence so I really wouldn't worry about that. The 2.27 doesn't have any fluorescence you may say a very very tiny hint. If you love the size of that one though I really wouldn't worry about it! what are you putting the stone in? Setting with diamonds and what color are those? Even if the side diamonds are F color your center with a G color wouldn't be noticeable. You'd notice a color difference between a D and G for sure. A simple solitaire though and you won't notice it.
 
That G is pretty twinkly, Pandabee~..... Gah - now I'm tempted to look at the G's, despite previous concerns about color. You guys have all been really helpful, thank you. 04diamind<3, I was thinking of a halo set in platinum - quite a bit like the DBL setting that nielseel posted, potentially with 2 tiny vivid pink diamonds - one at the apex of the pear and one at the base, just to be different (but that would increase the budget a fair bit). At this stage it's just a white halo. :)

Yes Enerchi and Nielseel, the DBL would be within budget for the setting and all, but I don't know if I'm taken with the inclusions. I always wonder if I could talk myself into liking something, but i reckon if it doesn't sing to me the first time i see it, it may never do so. :)
 
With the black crystal under the table, I would say no it will not be eye-clean. Good luck on your search! :)
 
kaydizzle|1359959458|3371703 said:
04diamind<3, I was thinking of a halo set in platinum - quite a bit like the DBL setting that nielseel posted, potentially with 2 tiny vivid pink diamonds - one at the apex of the pear and one at the base, just to be different (but that would increase the budget a fair bit). At this stage it's just a white halo. :)
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Then you really with be ok with the G. I'd personally go with the G that I posted with the faint fluorescence (2.02) because that will help the stone look whiter. Are you interested in the 2.27 G?
 
Given your stated desired specs, I think you have some room to lower color to a G and still have a very very white stone, and then have room in the budget for an SI1 and a bigger diamond :halo:
 
So G in a halo will still look sparkly white? even when i had a GIA 'H' sent to me and I saw yellow? :errrr:
That return process was very stressful so I'd love to avoid doing it again for the same reason (color). :)
 
kaydizzle|1360024172|3372310 said:
So G in a halo will still look sparkly white? even when i had a GIA 'H' sent to me and I saw yellow? :errrr:
That return process was very stressful so I'd love to avoid doing it again for the same reason (color). :)
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Since you saw obvious color in the GIA "H", I think that you're color sensitive (like some of us) and you really need to stay in the D-F range. Although G would work fine for the majority of folks, you're just going to drive yourself crazy looking for the tint in every lighting condition and at every angle because you really want a white stone.

We often talk about buying a diamond that is "mind clean", and for some that means high clarity while for others that means high color. For your peace of mind, you shouldn't go below a GIA "F" and if you can swing a "D" (which, in general, is overkill when you're on a budget) you'll absolutely love the icy whiteness of the stone.

Whenever DSS begins to set in with me, I switch my focus to the D color of my center stone or the ideal cut of my melee, so paying a premium for specific attributes that are important to you will return dividends in many different ways.
 
Roxy, 'mind-clean' is a good term. I think you're right. I'd be looking for the color, rather than enjoying the rock. D to F it is. I'll just have to keep searching for the perfect shiner, and there's no rush, so it won't be a problem. :tongue:
 
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