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Scared of marriage?

Before I was ready to be married, and before my DH came into my life I had a lot of reasons NOT to get married. I never grew up with the idea that marriage was some sort of salvation. I lived in an non-traditional household, with my mother and stepfather (my parents divorced) living together but never marrying (until this past February, after 24 years together). I lived common-law myself at one time for a few years without any real desire for marriage. Let us just say, I was never a Lady in Waiting - before or after meeting DH.

Marriage, as others have said, is what you and your partner want and make it to be. No more and no less than that. There is no reason to have to conform to some sort of expected societal role. DH and I certainly do not have traditional roles. When we first met on e-harmony, one of the questions he actually asked me in our communication was what I thought about traditional roles. My response was along the lines that I reject the idea of living "roles" and believe couples should live and relate in relationship in a way that works for them and they create together. Apparently my very honest response about that, and a couple other questions, had him extremely interested in continuing our communication and we have similar views in this way.

Both DH and I can honestly say one of the reasons we wanted to marry one another is because we truly feel *freedom* being together. Indeed we each said so in the vows we surprised each other with. We feel accepted, loved, supported and encouraged to be the individuals we each are and to continue to grow as individuals. We have such an open, vulnerable and honest relationship...we are completely our true selves with one another. Now that is freedom! It was an EASY choice for us both to make TOGETHER (hence never feeling like a Lady in Waiting). Not a blind choice by any means, but not one that felt anything less than comfortable.

We do make decisions in our lives as a team. We are committed to our lives as such. Partners in crime, as Haven aptly put it. I would not move across country without him, to be honest, or he without me, for example, but we have moved across country together before we ever even talked about marriage as that sense of being a team was already there. I enjoy being a team! I am still an individual even though we are a team.
I even look forward to children eventually, something that used to terrify me with the responsibility, as I know we will be a team and be there with each other to share the responsibility, the tears, the joy. And DH will be the one staying at home, so that eases my own stress a bit, ha. Still, that is a way off (if it happens) and right now we are just enjoying it being the two of us.

And no we do not live like 20-somethings. We do not want to! We live like *RaiKai and B*! Whatever that is. We are in our 30s but hardly old, if you ask us! Just comfortable in our own skin and having even more fun than we did years ago as a result. I think the younger couples we meet at times think we are a bit odd at times, ha! For the record, we do rent. We both used to own homes with previous partners, but now we enjoy renting. And while we get pressure at times to buy, we don't really care much about that. We do not want to buy right now, and the next home we do buy will be our dream home we build. We have the starter home bug out of us from previous experience. We do what is right for us and what works for us. Just to say, you do not have to have a mortgage, etc, just as you get married, ya know!?

We feel blessed to be together. I would not want to be with anyone else, real or fantasy! We are best friends, confidantes, lovers, supporters, witnesses, discoverers and so on. But we also met when we were both ready as individuals to be together and the road was not a straight path to that place. We both had a lot of life, personal and relationship experiences and growth before getting to where we are. We are both self-aware and continue striving to be and neither would have married someone who wasn't also. There was no fear of "losing ourselves" as we know ourselves and want to continue to learn about ourselves and share ourselves with each other. We married individuals, not roles.

Quite honestly, I had anxiety about marriage in the general sense, but none of those anxieties were there with DH or our relationship. I cannot explain it very well, but the nature of DH and our relationship is one where my anxieties were just not applicable anymore. I *know* we are in this journey together, and I *know* we can share anything with one another and be completely ourselves, and I also *know* we support each others individual growth.

I get a little cheesy when I talk about DH and our marriage, but I truly feel blessed and do not know how else to convey it.

But at 22, as you are, even though I was fully independent, responsible and had some maturing life experiences, I can say no way was I ready myself personally...no matter who I was with. If DH and I had met that many years ago, I think it would have all turned out very differently. So no, I do not think your fears are unusual. And I do not think you should rush it at all. You have all the time in the world, and do not need to get married NOW just because you can, you know?
 
Date: 6/20/2010 3:48:52 PM
Author: IndyLady
Callisto and Princesss, thank you for sharing your experiences. To be honest, I''m also sad that I''ll be away from my SO for nearly a year. I feel like I would have regretted it down the line if I hadn''t taken this opportunity, though it may be hard. Callisto, I like the way you said ''adjustments'' instead of ''changes''.

Freke, I''d definitely regret losing my SO more. Ha! I don''t think there are words to describe how much more. The Fulbright doesn''t call me ''princess'' and make me dinner (my SO is a mean cook!).
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Unluckytwin, I was a Sociology major! Are you in grad school?

Luckynumber, I like your advice! My orientation is this week, so hopefully I''ll be coming back to you with a question or two. Any chance you''ll be in that neck of the woods this next year?

Ksinger, thank you. I like being a proactive person, and I hate the idea of waiting for a man to run the show. Sometimes I''m a little bothered by the title of a ''lady in waiting'', which is why I waited to sign up for it as long as I did. Then I decided just to take it with a grain of salt and sign up anyway.

Brazen, we might have to do a bit of graduate school compromising. We''re applying to all of the same areas and states, but we have no idea whether or not we''ll get into the same places. And even if we get in, there''s no guarantee that the schools we want will be affordable or offer funding.
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Yes, I''m headed into my third year in the program. Will have a Master''s in the fall and then the PhD comes in May of 2013. May I ask what you do? Aside from teaching sociology, I''m still unsure of what options I have in terms of a career that puts sociology to use. I don''t think I want to teach.
 
Date: 6/21/2010 12:02:28 AM
Author: IndyLady
Date: 6/20/2010 11:01:28 PM
Author: Haven
Hey IndyLady!

I had similar fears (or at least concerns) about marriage before I was ready to get married, myself. However, since being with my DH I feel even freer than when I was single. Now I have a partner in life who supports everything that I do (and vice versa) and even though I never needed someone to support me in my endeavors before, since being married I feel like I''m more powerful/independent/ready to take on the world.

Do you have a friend who is like a partner in crime? That one person who, for whatever reason, fuels a fire within you and any time you spend with her feels like time intensified? Your conversations are intense and thought provoking. You are bolder, braver, funnier, and just generally more of everything you love about yourself when you''re around her? Think of finding all of that in a man and marrying him.

I''m having a difficult time articulating it, but I suppose what I''m trying to say is that when you''re married to the right person it opens your world up instead of closing it. Marriage truly is what you make of it.

If you marry someone who doesn''t want you to travel without him, Or, who doesn''t support you pursuing things like summer internships or other opportunities, then that will be limiting. But it doesn''t have to be that way.
I am really, really thankful that my SO has all of the qualities you mentioned. He''s completely supportive of me, and so proud of the things I''m doing and have put my mind too. Reading your post just makes me so happy and thankful.
I knew you''d understand what I was trying to say even if I didn''t express it very clearly, IndyLady.
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And, knowing what I know of you from PS, I''m not at all surprised to hear that you have a fabulous SO. Marriage will be wonderful, just wait and see.
 
Rai Kai, your post made me feel all warm and fuzzy.
 
Date: 6/21/2010 10:20:45 AM
Author: UnluckyTwin




Yes, I'm headed into my third year in the program. Will have a Master's in the fall and then the PhD comes in May of 2013. May I ask what you do? Aside from teaching sociology, I'm still unsure of what options I have in terms of a career that puts sociology to use. I don't think I want to teach.

Warning: Threadjack alert! I promise to post my real response next.

UnluckyTwin, I am a sociology grad student, too. Well, for another 11 days before I defend. I went the academic route. Does your department only allow you three years of funding to take comps and get your PhD? That is terrible if so and I am very sorry to hear it. You will definitely not be competitive on the academic job market, without more years to build your CV,. I would suggest trying to find outside funding as soon as possible.

Since you don't want to teach, unless you want to work at a center or a thinktank, I would consider leaving with the MA. I know plenty of people who stuck around for the PhD for non-academic jobs and, apart from the few that landed elite jobs with centers, data houses, and thinktanks, few benefited from having their PhDs (in terms of pay or position). Does your department support non-academic outlets? Ours certainly doesn't, so it makes it harder for our grads to find out about these opportunities but many have. Also, if you belong to ASA, I suggest starting to look through the job bank. It will start coming alive around October and you can see what opportunities are out there. It will be mainly jobs for PhDs, and mostly academic and post-doc jobs, but not exclusively.
 
I wasn''t so terrified of marriage as I was deviating from my life plan. There is even a thread around here where I am contemplating whether to get married in graduate school or not, because my life plan was: Get PhD -> Get Professorship -> Marriage. I also decided I didn''t want to get married before 30. I stuck to my guns on the latter and not the former. Like you, IndyLady, we both knew early in our 20s--and both far earlier than we anticipated meeting our life partners--that we would be together forever.

I totally agree with Freke, though, that marriage is what you make it. DH and I''s relationship hasn''t changed since being married. I haven''t lost my social or financial independence and we both spend the majority of the time apart. However, I do think our maturity and experience as independent adults helped us establish the terms of our relationship and find the place we most felt comfortable.
 
I definitely agree that marriage is what you make it. DH and I are both very independent people and marriage hasn''t changed that at all. We travel together and separately, have nights out together and separately and just generally enjoy each others company. It''s lovely being married but just do it when you''re happy. We were together for almost 10 years when we got married-we were always serious about each other but we just got married when we were both happy to do it.
 
RaiKai - what an amazingly well-written, heartfelt post
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Date: 6/23/2010 3:11:36 AM
Author: yssie
RaiKai - what an amazingly well-written, heartfelt post
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I agree, RaiKai!
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I know you say you feel corny when you mush about your husband and relationship, but I really like it because you say what I want to say, just a lot more clearly than I could
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