Should l buy this loose stone?

[Shiny Black Cat]

I apologize for blurry photos, but it's all I have. The stone is green in day and led light and purple red in candle light, glows red in black light, no visible inclusions, 3.9ct, no lab report.

 

[mwilliamanderson]

The color change quality is lovely, but the cut is not it my opinion. Forgive me if it's just the pictures not showing the faceting well but it appears that the stone has a huge window and not much going on in terms of brilliance. I would keep looking. Hopefully others with more knowledge will have something to offer.

 

[Rfisher]

Should you buy it…….?
What is it being sold as? I mean with no lab report and all
What price is it being offered at?

while someone might say there’s no visible inclusions - there sure are quite a few chips and nicks on it.

 

[Shiny Black Cat]

Should you buy it…….?
What is it being sold as? I mean with no lab report and all
What price is it being offered at?

while someone might say there’s no visible inclusions - there sure are quite a few chips and nicks on

Should you buy it…….?
What is it being sold as? I mean with no lab report and all
What price is it being offered at?

while someone might say there’s no visible inclusions - there sure are quite a few chips and nicks on it.

The seller gave it to me to find info about the stone. l always take a photos in different lighting.,and if there is something interesting l post it. The first step is to ask on forum. l am aware that it is difficult to find answer without gemologist, but like to know opinions. l noticed chips ,, but the stone is beautiful anyway and l really like it. thank you.

 

[marymm]

The stone has extensive chips and abraded facets --- that alone would give me pause -- unclear whether this is an earth-mined stone or synthetic/lab-made -- if you really love the stone and it is $50 or less, go for it -- otherwise I'd take a hard pass -- YMMV.

 

[Shiny Black Cat]

The stone has extensive chips and abraded facets --- that alone would give me pause -- unclear whether this is an earth-mined stone or synthetic/lab-made -- if you really love the stone and it is $50 or less, go for it -- otherwise I'd take a hard pass -- YMMV.

recut is not so expensive. thank you.

 

[marymm]

Based on your posts, you already know you want it, and if you know recut rates then you likely have enough knowledge to understand the pros and cons of the stone especially since you have it hand -- you haven't disclosed the purchase price but it sounds like you've already calculated it as reasonable -- good luck!

 

[Shiny Black Cat]

Based on your posts, you already know you want it, and if you know recut rates then you likely have enough knowledge to understand the pros and cons of the stone especially since you have it hand -- you haven't disclosed the purchase price but it sounds like you've already calculated it as reasonable -- good luck!

thanks, l really believe this stone is good luck for me.

 

[dk168]

Nope, as I don't like the colour, it appears to have a massive window, chipped as well as abrasions could be observed.

I would not buy it for recut as I don't like the colour in the first place.

Personal preferences and all that.

DK

 

[lovedogs]

I wouldnt. The cut is not good, there are abrasions/chips, and you don't know what you're buying (I assume synthetic). So unless it's like $50 and you love it, I wouldn't

 

[LD]

A big assumption here but are you thinking it's an Alexandrite? Highly highly unlikely. It could be a colour change Andesine and if so, the recut will probably cost more than the gem itself. Would I buy it? No because I'm not keen on the olive green, the huge window, the abrasions and chips. You haven't said how much it is but sometimes it's not worth spending on a sub-par stone but saving your money and putting it towards a nicer (and probably more expensive) stone.

 

[pokerface]

This is exactly the same material as the green/red stone you posted before. https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/green-red-stone.267215/. The fact that these stones change from the same exact green to the same exact red means that both of these stones are synthetic. They are not valuable. If you like the look of synthetic alexandrite, there are a lot of nicer stones available for less money, as I posted on the prior thread.

 

[Shiny Black Cat]

Nope, as I don't like the colour, it appears to have a massive window, chipped as well as abrasions could be observed.

I would not buy it for recut as I don't like the colour in the first place.

Personal preferences and all that.

DK

thanks

This is exactly the same material as the green/red stone you posted before. https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/green-red-stone.267215/. The fact that these stones change from the same exact green to the same exact red means that both of these stones are synthetic. They are not valuable. If you like the look of synthetic alexandrite, there are a lot of nicer stones available for less money, as I posted on the prior thread.

thanks

 

[Shiny Black Cat]

A big assumption here but are you thinking it's an Alexandrite? Highly highly unlikely. It could be a colour change Andesine and if so, the recut will probably cost more than the gem itself. Would I buy it? No because I'm not keen on the olive green, the huge window, the abrasions and chips. You haven't said how much it is but sometimes it's not worth spending on a sub-par stone but saving your money and putting it towards a nicer (and probably more expensive) stone.

thanks

 

[musicloveranthony]

I didn't even have to look past the first photo to say no. That's a pooper

 

[Shiny Black Cat]

Thank you all, l bought this stone and didn't regret. More photos after recut

 

[T L]

Reminds me of diaspore. Hopefully you can get more info about it.

 

[Shiny Black Cat]

Reminds me of diaspore. Hopefully you can get more info about it.

Diaspore

 

[theredspinel]

Fact of the matter is, without a lab report you have no clue what the stone is or if it’s even natural. Seems you’re happy to pay for that uncertainty, and don’t have any regrets so congrats!

I always love hearing stories of how sellers of super expensive stones find these customers and sell these super rare and expensive stones for a deal, all whilst confirming the new owner can get 10x the return. So why didn’t they sell it for the price it’s worth themselves and get 10 times the return?

 

[Shiny Black Cat]

Fact of the matter is, without a lab report you have no clue what the stone is or if it’s even natural. Seems you’re happy to pay for that uncertainty, and don’t have any regrets so congrats!

I always love hearing stories of how sellers of super expensive stones find these customers and sell these super rare and expensive stones for al deal, all whilst confirming the new owner can get 10x the return. So why didn’t they sell it for the price it’s worth themselves and get 10 times the return?

I don't know, my vendor is busy and doesn't want to waste time on damaged stones, so he gifted to me one more alexandrite only because it is chipped and has some abrasions. All l need to do is recut. More photos after recut. It's not easy to photograph a stone, especially colour change. Sometimes colour change is clearly visible only on photos ,in different light sources, from my experience. Whatever it is, it's beautiful.

 

[theredspinel]

I don't know, my vendor is busy and doesn't want to waste time on damaged stones, so he gifted to me one more alexandrite only because it is chipped and has some abrasions. All l need to do is recut. More photos after recut. It's not easy to photograph a stone, especially colour change. Sometimes colour change is clearly visible only on photos ,in different light sources, from my experience. Whatever it is, it's beautiful.

If he could have made money from it, he would have.

What you’re saying sounds a little something like this; ‘my banker is busy and didn’t want to waste time sorting through the $50 notes, so he just gave me a wallet full of them. All I have to do is organise them’.

 

[pokerface]

OP is correct. These are not synthetic corundum, as I had originally guessed. They are glass, usually marketed as simulated Zultanite (diaspore). https://www.gia.edu/gems-gemology/winter-2016-gemnews-color-change-glass-zultanite-imitation

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

well so long as it didn't cost a lot of money the green is rather pretty and the colour change is fun

 

[musicloveranthony]

It's still so... icky

 

[lovedogs]

"my jeweler gave me this for free and it's valuable, all I have to do is spend money on X and Y" is just wishful thinking. If the jeweler could have made money, they would have done so.

 

[Shiny Black Cat]

"my jeweler gave me this for free and it's valuable, all I have to do is spend money on X and Y" is just wishful thinking. If the jeweler could have made money, they would have done

"my jeweler gave me this for free and it's valuable, all I have to do is spend money on X and Y" is just wishful thinking. If the jeweler could have made money, they would have done so.

"my jeweler gave me this for free and it's valuable, all I have to do is spend money on X and Y" is just wishful thinking. If the jeweler could have made money, they would have done so.

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"my jeweler gave me this for free and it's valuable, all I have to do is spend money on X and Y" is just wishful thinking. If the jeweler could have made money, they would have done so.

"my jeweler gave me this for free and it's valuable, all I have to do is spend money on X and Y" is just wishful thinking. If the jeweler could have made money, they would have done so.

My vendor is not a jeweller. Why don't you post your stones?

 

[Shiny Black Cat]

OP is correct. These are not synthetic corundum, as I had originally guessed. They are glass, usually marketed as simulated Zultanite (diaspore). https://www.gia.edu/gems-gemology/winter-2016-gemnews-color-change-glass-zultanite-imitation

If he could have made money from it, he would have.

What you’re saying sounds a little something like this; ‘my banker is busy and didn’t want to waste time sorting through the $50 notes, so he just gave me a wallet full of them. All I have to do is .

OP is correct. These are not synthetic corundum, as I had originally guessed. They are glass, usually marketed as simulated Zultanite (diaspore). https://www.gia.edu/gems-gemology/winter-2016-gemnews-color-change-glass-zultanite-imitation

OP is correct. These are not synthetic corundum, as I had originally guessed. They are glass, usually marketed as simulated Zultanite (diaspore). https://www.gia.edu/gems-gemology/winter-2016-gemnews-color-change-glass-zultanite-imitation

. why don't you post your stones? l would like to see them.

 

[theredspinel]

. why don't you post your stones? l would like to see them.

Do you know how to use the search function? You realise you’re on a jewellery forum of which most members talking to you have been posting on for years just search to see peoples collections.

If you want, also do a google search for something like ‘is this a valuable stone’ to find thousands of posts just like yours littered across the web.

Edit: and if you’re asking me specifically (because you multi quoted) to show you my collection - No.

 

[lovedogs]

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My vendor is not a jeweller. Why don't you post your stones?

1. I have. For years.
2. This forum isnt a contest. It's a nonsensical response to ask me to "show my stones" when I am commenting on your thread where you *asked us to comment*

 

[Shiny Black Cat]

OP is correct. These are not synthetic corundum, as I had originally guessed. They are glass, usually marketed as simulated Zultanite (diaspore). https://www.gia.edu/gems-gemology/winter-2016-gemnews-color-change-glass-zultanite-imitation

If he could have made money from it, he would have.

What you’re saying sounds a little something like this; ‘my banker is busy and didn’t want to waste time sorting through the $50 notes, so he just gave me a wallet full of them. All I have to do is organise them’.

. why don't you post your stones?

OP is correct. These are not synthetic corundum, as I had originally guessed. They are glass, usually marketed as simulated Zultanite (diaspore). https://www.gia.edu/gems-gemology/winter-2016-gemnews-color-change-glass-zultanite-imitation

nothing to do with Sultanite colours. why don't you post your stones?

1. I have. For years.
2. This forum isnt a contest. It's a nonsensical response to ask me to "show my stones" when I am commenting on your thread where you *asked us to comment*

Do you know how to use the search function? You realise you’re on a jewellery forum of which most members talking to you have been posting on for years just search to see peoples collections.

If you want, also do a google search for something like ‘is this a valuable stone’ to find thousands of posts just like yours littered across the web.

Edit: and if you’re asking me specifically (because you multi quoted) to show you my collection - No.

uh,now l have 3 replies almost at the same time, it will take some time to answer,although l don't see the point.