show me your Belgium Pave ?

[frankiextah]

I'm wondering if the "belgium pave" is exclusively developed by Leon ?

also, what is the difference between a 2-row pave and the belgium pave ?

does anyone on PS have anything done in this type of pave ? please can you share your real life pics and also some close ups as well ?

thankyou !!

 

[frankiextah]

wondering if anyone owns LM's belgium pave earring ? thanks so much !!

 

[slg47]

just for anyone reading this thread...from LM website

In the Belgium pavé two rows of micropavé are set at a steep angle next to one another. The second row is completely hidden when viewed from the top. The Belgium pavé is great for round or oval/cushion halos. This is the most complicated way of setting micropavé.

 

[CharmyPoo]

I don't know the answers but it looks like mushroom or cutdown pave set in a steep angle.

http://www.artofplatinum.com/vault/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&Itemid=1&category_id=7&product_type_id=1&product_type_1_keystone_type_comp=find_in_set_any&product_type_1_keystone_type%5B%5D=Diamond&product_type_1_pave_type_comp=find_in_set_any&product_type_1_pave_type%5B%5D=Belgium+pave&limitstart=0

http://www.artofplatinum.com/vault/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=1346&category_id=8&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1

 

[stlc]

Anyone able to get more info on this???

 

[luv2sparkle]

I wish I had some. I drool regularly over the pair of haloed studs with the Belgium pave!

 

[yssie]

Mrs. Flinstone's redone earrings (the halos) by Leon are apparently w/ "belgium pave", I too am wondering if it's a Leonism?
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/leon-mege-perry-chen-thank-you-once-again.151761/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/leon-mege-perry-chen-thank-you-once-again.151761/[/URL]

 

[Victor Canera]

It's "U-cut" pave on the edges and regular four bead pave in the center. On the sides where the diamonds don't meet you can employ u-cut which gives a nice design to the edges of the metal. Where the diamonds come to a corner and touch, you would use four bead pave so that the metal doesn't become wavy if you were to use U-cut on all. The metal where the diamonds meet would look better this way. Here's what it looks like in letters: (o:) if it was two sided. If 3 sided it would look like this: (o::)
The Os' represent the diamonds and the colons and parentheses the beading, metal.

 

[mrssalvo]

thank you Victor, that makes sense

 

[yssie]

It's "U-cut" pave on the edges and regular four bead pave in the center. On the sides where the diamonds don't meet you can employ u-cut which gives a nice design to the edges of the metal. Where the diamonds come to a corner and touch, you would use four bead pave so that the metal doesn't become wavy if you were to use U-cut on all. The metal where the diamonds meet would look better this way. Here's what it looks like in letters: (o:) if it was two sided. If 3 sided it would look like this: (o::)
The Os' represent the diamonds and the colons and parentheses the beading, metal.

huh. nifty

 

[Victor Canera]

I recalled this thread after working on a piece that has this type of pave on it. Here are a couple of photos under 10X magnification. The photo titled "halo.jpg" employs two row micro pave, U-cut on the two edges with the middle corner a 4 bead type. The shank is 3 row micropave with two sides having U-Cut and the middle row 4 beads on either side. Piece hasn't been polished yet. The polishing will smooth out the beading a bit more and polish the grooves.

 

[yssie]

Thanks for the pics Victor!

So - from what I can see, the main differences between "belgium" and U-cut are the shape of the 'U' and how much metal is visible from the side - the "belgium" seems to have a U within a U, where the base of the inner U slopes following the round contour of the actual shank, so you get the look of less metal without actually sacrificing metal?

 

[Victor Canera]

Hi Yssie,
The terminology could be different from one vendor to another. The terminology used here just means 2-3 row U-cut (with 4 prong beading in between).

The depth of the Us is just an aesthetic choice of the craftsman. You can have Us that go slightly below the girdle of the stones or very deep. You can have U-Cut that actually clears the culet of the stone. It will also look different on different shaped surfaces. A rounded surface will look different with this type of pave than a flat one.

Also depending on the size of mele picked you can make the stones be at a 90degree angle (with slightly larger beads) or at a less sharp of an angle. I have another piece that I'm completing with 3 row micro pave and the stones are at a 90 degree angle from each other because we chose larger stones. On this piece you just see micro pave and grooving at all angles. Here's what it looks like.

 

[yssie]

I see... do you think you could you post a pic of that last piece (90deg) at 45deg, showing how the beading works between two pave rows that are at right angles? I think I understand how larger beads can support larger stones and/or fill larger spaces created by larger angles between adjacent rows - I can't visualize it though.

 

[Victor Canera]

Hi Yssie, the picture halo.jpg is with practically a 90 deg. angle. Both edges of the metal are U-cut and you can see the 2 beads that hold the stones in the middle. The rows are slightly staggered from each other to squeeze together the rows even more. 2 row was employed there instead of 3.

 

[yssie]

Ohhh I see now! I thought those two rows were both at the same angle, flat - oops!

Well, that's really interesting. I would have thought you'd need a lot more - filler - more metal, bigger prongs... honeycombing the little rounds really cuts down on the empty space you need to fill!

Thanks again.