Tell me about this sapphire...

[pregcurious]

When I look back at JM's sketch of your ring, the color he used for the gemstone makes sense if the stone looks like the adjusted picture I posted.

 

[innerkitten]

I like rose cuts and I love James Meyer's jewelry. I really want a rose cut diamond someday I didn't know he wasn't allowing customers own stones anymore. Yes, it's true that you won't get the same kind of sparkle you would with other cuts. But rose cuts still look gorgeous. I'd go for the more saturated color. Anyway, you can't go wrong with JM!

 

[LD]

Preg - can you adjust the photo again so that the background is white (as Jim says it was)? My gut feeling is that the stone still looks darker than it actually is. I'd like to be wrong but ............

 

[innerkitten]

I have no idea who Jim is!!!

If the stone is heated then it may well be treated further I'm afraid.

Just a note but that last photo, if it's on a white background, it's horribly inaccurate. The background looks blueish/grey. I would ask to see that stone on the back of his hand. Honestly that's got to be one of the worst photos if that's supposed to be on a white background. I'm sure it's not intentional but it most definitely doesn't tell you anything about the colour of the stone. I'm presuming that's the blue and not the purple one???

Here is his site LD. Even if it's not your style you'll appreciate his work because it's just put together so well and really unique( I have a ring made by him).
http://www.jamesmeyerjewelry.com/

 

[innerkitten]

Looking at all of the links you've provided, I very very very much doubt that the sapphire you've been shown will come anywhere close to that colour. In essence you're looking for a denim blue or a medium dark blue and I would also think you don't mind if there's a grey modifier as some of the links have it? That actually makes it easier because sapphires in a round in that colour are not difficult to obtain. The issue is finding a rose cut one!

So, a couple of suggestions, would Jim be prepared to work with Gene (his was the first link you put above)? If yes, perhaps Gene already has some material that he could cut in the same design as you've linked to above OR maybe even cut a variation of a rose cut?

If not, why not send those links to Jim so that he knows the general colour to look for in Tucson? It may be an idea to ask him to keep an eye out for a round cut in the colour you like also so you have a fallback.

Rose cut is unfortunately not a great cut for a coloured gemstone because of the light leakage but if you like it, you like it! A great cut one can look fantastic but it'll be a challenge to find.

Good idea!

 

[pregcurious]

Preg - can you adjust the photo again so that the background is white (as Jim says it was)? My gut feeling is that the stone still looks darker than it actually is. I'd like to be wrong but ............

There is a way of manually forcing the background to be white, instead of adjusting color balance. Unfortunately, it just washes out the entire picture. In my experience, it does _not_ result in an accurate representation of the item in the foreground. (One can use "adjustments" > levels.) Instead, it artificially washes out everything. Hand shots are really the best thing.

EDIT: That said, here is the picture. JM should be able to tell you which picture is more accurate. I would believe him if he says it is too washed out. That's the problem with Photoshop--it does not tell the truth.

 

[minousbijoux]

Minous, I am not thinking about rose cuts.

Sorry, VL, I was referring to the OP as VL too (I know, how dare I!!). It will never happen again - you are the one and only VL...

 

[airplay355]

I think this is what pregcurious was going for. Forcing the background white makes the whole image look overexposed as IRL that background would not have been perfect white. Anyway, here it is.

 

[pregcurious]

Thanks airplay. What adjustments did you use?

 

[airplay355]

Same as you, the levels adjustment.

I used the white eye dropped to choose what color I wanted to be considered white. The color I chose was the brightest part of the background on the original image (the lower right hand corner). The white flashes of light on the sapphire are now overexposed but the background is whiter while still being realistic; it's textured, the shadow is intact, ect. I was using Photoshop CS4 on a Mac if that helps any.

 

[vintagelover229]

Preg - can you adjust the photo again so that the background is white (as Jim says it was)? My gut feeling is that the stone still looks darker than it actually is. I'd like to be wrong but ............

Just want o clarify quickly-I mispoke when I wrote white background on jims photo-he just sent an additional photo-he didn't say it was white at all so idk if Photoshop would work?


Also this is a double rose cut-which I'm assuming makes the weight greater in the depth than a standard flat back rose cut stone.

I'd love to find something a bit more saturated as well as het hand shots of the current stone. I requested them but he only gave me what I've posted.

I don't want to keep pestering him about it since I've already asked.

I'm going to try and out DS down and send an email about custom cutting a gem.


I'd really like to stick to a rose cut if at all possible. Thanks so much for all your help.

Typing left thumbed on my iPhone makes writing very difficult lol

 

[pregcurious]

If the background was not white, then the way we were interpreting the photos was incorrect, most likely. As far as Photoshop, there is no telling how accurate the adjusted photos are. That is why you cannot ever trust Photoshopped pictures.

 

[LD]

If I look at the readjusted photos, I think Preg's second attempt is probably accurate. If you look at the original photograph (and look at the violet sapphire), it would look like a dark hole if the one in Preg's first or Airplay's adjusted photos were accurate.

Vintagelover - may I suggest you send the light of Preg's two adjusted photos to Jim? I'm pretty sure that's more accurate (and may even be a little bit bluer than the stone IRL.

 

[LD]

Vintagelover - I can't believe this but I literally stumbled over this seller on Etsy - just LOOK at the amount of rose cut gemstones he/she has! Some are 6mm etc., and the price is very very good. Okay, they're not sapphires but one may take your fancy!

http://www.etsy.com/shop/JoopyGems?ref=seller_info_count

The Rhodolite Garnets are just scrummy and the Iolites and the moonstones and the labradorite ........! There are even some 3mm blue sapphires!