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The Official TTC Thread!

I''m starting to really hate how long my cycles are! The past 2 months I ovulated around day 24. I kept telling myself that they were long because I was just coming of bc, and I had this hope that this month I would O a lot earlier, but it''s cycle day 16 here and no fertile cm in sight (past 2 months it started around day 22). For me, waiting to ovulate is DEFINITELY worse than the 2ww because I don''t know when to start bding. I know we will burn out if we start now and and it takes another 8 days to ovulate, but I don''t want us to miss our chance either!
 
Date: 11/6/2008 6:42:58 AM
Author: Sabine
I''m starting to really hate how long my cycles are! The past 2 months I ovulated around day 24. I kept telling myself that they were long because I was just coming of bc, and I had this hope that this month I would O a lot earlier, but it''s cycle day 16 here and no fertile cm in sight (past 2 months it started around day 22). For me, waiting to ovulate is DEFINITELY worse than the 2ww because I don''t know when to start bding. I know we will burn out if we start now and and it takes another 8 days to ovulate, but I don''t want us to miss our chance either!
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I totally agree with you, Sabine. When you have a longer cycle, the BDing side of the cycle seems to be the longest, just waiting for confirmation that you did ovulate. I''d take the two week wait over that any day!

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Today is CD 10. Still have a high temp. for me; my chart so far is a hot mess.

I had to re-choose my insurance this month, so since I''m out sick, I went ahead and did it from home. Well, I''ve chosen the plan that provides 100% coverage for prenatal, delivery, and postpartum care. Again. Did that for 2008, too. Maybe I''ll be able to use it this go-round!!

Here''s hoping.

Today I''m actually able to sit up for more than 30 minutes without getting the rolling puke feeling. Yay! I''m going to try to download a couple of pictures from the trip. It was *so* pretty!! I''m also going to post one of my purchases while in the mountains. I can''t wait to use it!
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Have a good day, ladies. I''m sure the rush of babies is on the way. It has to be.
 
I''ve also been meaning to ask this; is having a miscarriage something that is genetic? If you have a number of relatives that have miscarried, does that increase your chances of having one? If you have no relatives that have ever miscarried, does that decrease your chances?

Of course, I know many women do miscarry very early on and have no clue they were pregnant to begin with.

But I''m just wondering about this, if it''s heretiary or anything of that nature.
 
Sabine, that really sucks. I get stressed trying to plan BD timing to avoid burnout so I can only imagine what it must be like with a long cycle. But you''ll get there. I can remember seeing lots and lots of pregnancy charts on FF with very long cycles!

Fisher, yes, please show us what you got on your trip! I''m sorry you''re feeling pukey and sick.

CD 5 for me. AF has vacated the premises, so that''s good.
 
Yeah, that''s annoying Sabine. Last month I ovulated on CD 20 and before that I was ovulaating on CD 17 so, we''ll just get cracking a little earlier to make sure we don''t miss anything. Last month my monitor also did not have any highs - it went from low one day to peak the next. So, I definitely want to cover all my bases. Plus, there''s not traveling for either one of us this month...so no excuses.
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Fisher - I hope you feel better! Can''t wait to see your pics!
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Date: 11/6/2008 9:47:26 AM
Author: fisherofmengirly
I''ve also been meaning to ask this; is having a miscarriage something that is genetic? If you have a number of relatives that have miscarried, does that increase your chances of having one? If you have no relatives that have ever miscarried, does that decrease your chances?

Of course, I know many women do miscarry very early on and have no clue they were pregnant to begin with.

But I''m just wondering about this, if it''s heretiary or anything of that nature.
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Something like 75% of m/c are caused by random issues with the genetic code in the embryo, so those ones are certainly not genetic (unless you carry a heritable mutation that potenitally compromises embryonic development... we have one in my family but I don''t carry it).

I think the more common issue that runs in families is just infertility issues in general, which could involve many different things that aren''t neccesarily related to m/c (e.g. hormonal issues that affect ovulation or implantation...though if the issues are with implantation then it may be considered early m/c, I guess what you call it depends on whether you knew you got pg or not). So if you have many close relatives who had troubles conceiving then it may mean you are at a higher risk for infertility, but not m/c per se. Knowing members of your family who had 1 or 2 m/c''s probably doesn''t mean you are at an increased risk of infertility either, since those are most likely random, but having a close relative or two who had more than three may indicate an issue that could have been inherited. Also, I have read that if it takes you a long time to get pg (i.e., more than a year) then you have a slightly elevated risk of m/c as well, probably due to the same types of factors that cause it to take a while to get pg. Anyhoo, that''s my 2c.
 
Thanks, Dreamer. I''d been wondering about that for a while. In my family, only one aunt has had a miscarriage, and it is believed that was in large part due to her age at time of conception (she was 42). I asked mostly because of my best friend who''s had 5 miscarriages now. Her problem is not in getting pregnant, but in staying pregnant. She has two babies, though. One is 6 and the other is almost 2.

I''m also wondering why my temps are staying above the coverline from my last cycle. Not a significant drop yet. It''s odd. I''m almost tempted to take a preggo test, but I''m sure I had my period last week.

Oh, another thing I''ve been wondering about: is the length of your period related to anything? I''ve looked online, to no avail at finding any correlation to anything, really. But I thought I''d ask anyway. I have SUPER short periods (two days) with sometimes a little bit of spotting for a 1/2 day beyond that. I asked my Dr. about it before I got married and she said to just consider it a blessing. But now that we''re in cycle 4 of trying for a baby, I wonder if maybe I don''t make enough blood to support a baby during the cycle. I guess the Dr. would have known if it was an issue, though.

The things a girl thinks about when stuck at home sucking on cough drops. I''ve not taken any meds beyond Tylenol, in case I am preggo, but I''m really sure I''m not. I should just take some DayQuil and kick this nasty thing.
 
Sabine- I get stressed trying to plan bding on a short cycle so I can only imagine how you feel. Hang in there!

Festy- Happy to hear AF has left the building, good luck this cycle!

Fisher- I hope you feel better!

Blushing- Taking travel out of the equation will for sure make things easier.

InLuv- I''ll try to post my chart tonight or tomorrow.

Peony and Amber- I''m thinking of you ladies and hope you are both well!

As for me, I''m getting pretty excited about my chart. My waking times are a little all over the place but I can see a clear biphastic curve so I''m pretty happy! I''m debating testing this cycle. I have been waiting until I get my period (11dpo) but I''m tempted to test at 10 dpo since I have the day off from work and would love nothing more than to celebrate a BFP! But I''m getting ahead of myself.


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Fisher- I forget...did you ever test again after your BFN? I'm new to temping so I can't advise you on your temps staying over the coverline but if you think you could be pregnant I'd take another test. If you are pregnant you should get a positive test now...just a thought.
 
Fisher If you are sick then it will elevate your temps for sure, even if you don''t have a full-on fever. I had the same thing one cycle when I had "bathroom sickness" and I POAS to be sure
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. They will go down when you aren''t sick, I am sure.

As for length of period, it is irrelevant. I think this topic came up a while ago and me and Blenheim both attested to short periods and no issues getting KTFU (I think we are both like you with only a couple days of bleeding)... apparently it doesn''t matter at all for predicting issues, but sometimes after you find out you have issues it turns out that super short or super long periods are a sign of that particular problem. So you can''t know if it was a sign until after the fact. Helpful, eh? I think with light periods the most likely possibility is that you aren''t actually ovulating, since anovulatory bleeding is light, but you are charting so you know you ovulate!
 
Hey everyone, long time no type. :)

I had my 29th birthday yesterday, and my 1st anniversary on Monday. Kind of sucked, no one remembered (aside from my facebook friends and my mom), so that was a little sad. We''ve kind of been on a kind of self imposed TTC break, because I''ve been freaking sick! I''ve had colds, got the flu shot, had something bad with a high fever last weekend, and now I''ve lost my voice today! It''s not a sore throat, just a very strained thing that won''t go away! SO ANNOYING.

Paul and I went to Disneyland last Thursday, and met up with my cousin and cousin-in-law and their twins, Luke and Bree. They''re expecting twins in March/April/May (I can''t remember) via surrogate. It''s funny, because out of all my cousins/inlaws I disliked her the most for various reasons. Well, after hanging out that day I got to know her so much better, and we found we have so much in common. She''s been talking to me about TTC lately, because they had lost a set of twins at 22 weeks, and then got pregnant with Luke and Bree via a second round of IVF. The births went bad and she had to have a hysterectomy, which I know killed her. The twins via surrogate are from transplanted eggs, the odd thing is they transplanted two, but one wasn''t viable, and the second naturally split into mono-di twin boys! She was thrilled to find out how much I know about twins (mono-di di-di all from NF and Indy), and she sent me her TCOYF before, but I thought she was being snarky, like I didn''t know what I was doing. It was just the opposite, as she really wants me to get pregnant, and can''t wait for it to happen. So it''s amazing the things you find out if you just try, right?

I''m at peace with not being preggo, especially because my body has just been ravaged by various sicknesses lately.

Sorry I wrote a book again! I hope everyone is doing well, and hope for some BFPs soon!
 
Amber,

So good to hear from you again. I''m sure that it''s a relief to get to know an in-law better, and to see that she''s not the evil thing you thought her to be. It''s funny how some comments along the lines of TTC from others can be so sweet, but misread by us as something "snarky." TTC is such an emotional thing. Gah. Good thing the pay off is worth it, huh?

I''m sorry you''ve been sick lately. I''m such a baby when I''m sick. Totally makes me hope I''m a lucky one who''s not sick sick during pregnancy. Otherwise, Paul''s in for a LONG ride.
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My voice comes and goes. Seems like I''ll say about three words then my voice is gone for the next two and then it comes back. Nice. I have to testify at court tomorrow for work, too. That should be a hoot with my fading vocals. Good thing is I''m not dizzy anymore, though. Maybe tomorrow I''ll be audible. Hoping the same for you!!

How long are you planning on not doing the TTC thing? Paul and I aren''t at that point yet, but if I get too stressed out and stuff, we''re planning to take a break because neither of us want to conceive under incredible stress. We want it to be an exciting time, not something we worry ourselves sick over. So, I understand the taking a break thing. Totally.

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Dreamer,

Thanks for that information. Nothing else for me to wonder or ponder over at the time, then. Thanks!!

I still have a really positive outlook on this whole process, which is nice. I feel like for the first cycle or two, I was just so eager and my spirits completely fell when it didn''t happen right away. Now I''m thinking more along the lines that it will happen when it is supposed to, and that will be soon. It seems like the healthy place for us to be at this time, so I''m going with it. I''m at peace. It''ll come.

I still feel like we''re about to have a baby boom around here, too. They say good things come in groups. I''m hopeful, ladies!!

**We had chinese food one day recently and my fortune said, "After a long delay, a much anticipated event will find its way to you." Not much for relying on a cookie for my future, but hey, I''ll take what I get. I''m sure that means a baby''s on it''s way, shortly now. Since I''ve been waiting since I was like 6 years old, it has to mean soon.
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amo4, you can''t say you''re excited about your chart and then not post it! (Ok, I''ve done this before, wanna make something of it?)
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It''s been a while since we''ve seen some good charts - I''m having withdrawal.

I have short AF''s too. Almost as though I''m still on the Pill. Before BCP my periods were definitely longer, at least I think they were since it''s been ages.

Hi Amber! It''s great to read a "book" from you! It sounds like you''re doing well despite being sick. Happy birthday/anniversary!
 
Amber, happy belated birthday! I turn 29 this month, too. Maybe we''ll get a late bday present that comes 9 months later and cries and lets us snuggle with him/her.

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So, still sitting around the house, but starting to feel much better. Yay!

I''ve been watching TLC (I''m addicted to that channel at times) and "Bringing Home Baby." Today seems to be a pack of multiples for the show. It''s so interesting to see how different families choose to spend their first few days with their baby/babies. Some go home and have just the immediate family there, some have relatives come and stay for weeks.

Have any of you thought about how you''ll go through the adapting to being a brand new parent phase?

My parents live in California and we''re in Georgia. My mom has already said that she''ll come for at least a few weeks close to my due date, so that she''ll be here for the birth and also for a little while after the baby comes. That''s exciting to me, since if we don''t have a summer baby, my husband will not have much time off at all, being a teacher. Plus, my mom is a great mother and an even better grandmother, so I''m sure she''ll have a great time with the baby. Some of the mothers I''ve seen on this show are so demanding, though. Telling their children they''re doing things wrong, snapping babies out of their parents'' arms, telling the parents what they have to eat, etc. I guess each family is different, but I''d go nuts with a mother like that over my shoulder all the time.

I''m sure my dad will come, too, but not for as long as my mother. They tend to take trips to visit separately anyway. Mom says they both get a vacation that way. Haha.

Here is a new name I really like that I''ve never liked before, but now I do (a lot): Analeise. So pretty!!
 
Happy belated birthday, Amber!
 
Hey, guys. Just thought I would pop in to say hi. This is month 3 of TTC. Today I went to a reproductive endocronologist(sp?) to get checked out. My ob/gyn sent me in just to get checked out b/c I was having issues with not having a period except every 3 or 4 months. Well, she did an ultrasound and said everything looked good. Now it is just back to trying and waiting. Anyway, wanted to wish everyone good luck this month, I know it is hard waiting!
 
Thanks for the birthday wishes guys! I''m just sitting here with the most intense case of laryngitis that it''s making me so miserable. I''m a talker by nature, and not being able to talk is KILLING ME. It hurts really bad, too.

Eh. Or, Feh. In my voice it''s "*squeeeeakrasp* feh *squeeeeeeeraspycroak*"
 
Aaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmbbbbbeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Miss you girl! So happy you popped in - HAPPY BIRTHDAY LADY FRIEND!!!!!!!!!! I''m really wishing really good things for you this year. Really. You''re a great person, thoughtful, farking hilarious, and imho, the nicest layered ''onion'' I ever did meet in a forum. Much like you got to know your cuz in-law recently, i feel like we''ve gotten to know the many layers of Amber - through all the ups and downs of this life we share here. I''m happy to have had the opportunity to ''meet'' you.
I truly truly wish you to have the greatest 29th year. Enjoy this "victory lap" of your twenties
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Oh, and happy Ani to boot!
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All these BFN lately have gotten me REALLY REALLY excited-slash-scared of the onslaught of BFP''s we''re going to get hit with in the next few weeks! EEK!!!!!!

Someone call the FRER factory and tell them to STOCK UP!!!
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My fever finally broke. Yay! Today I''m at 97.87. Whoo hoo... I busted through the 98 zone.

I have to go in to work today for court. Here''s hoping they''ll know what my squeaks and bits of no noise at all in the middle of a word mean. Haha. Should make for a fun day for the court reporter. I work in a little bitty county and they still do it by typing, not by recording.

Cycle day 11. I hope I''m better soon. Paul won''t even kiss me good morning (cept on the cheek) while I''m sick. The one time I''m glad I ovulate late is now!! I''ll be good by Sunday, I bet.

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Mela,

Seriously, we have to have some positives soon. Have to. I''m hoping it''s the whole gang of us. "TTC is now retired until a new group forms. All TTCers are now preggos." I''d love that!!!
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Happy belated Birthday Amber, and I hope you get your voice back soon. Sometimes when I''ve been sick, even when I''m better I lose my voice, and it can be gone for days. But if you find yourself getting lonely cause you can''t talk, you can always come on here and type!

Fisher, glad you''re feeling better!

I''m slightly frustrated here. DH and I went to visit our families this weekend, and we are staying with his parents. We didn''t think bding would be a problem since there is a couch that pulls out into a bed in the basement, where we''d have tons of privacy. But after inspection, it would have been like sleeping on a blanket over bars, so we ended up in his sister''s old room, on a squeaky bed, right next to his parent''s room...Any suggestions? I don''t want to miss the whole weekend, especially since I''m going home Sunday, but dh won''t be back till Tuesday since he has an interview on Monday.
 
Date: 11/7/2008 8:23:54 AM
Author: Sabine
Happy belated Birthday Amber, and I hope you get your voice back soon. Sometimes when I''ve been sick, even when I''m better I lose my voice, and it can be gone for days. But if you find yourself getting lonely cause you can''t talk, you can always come on here and type!


Fisher, glad you''re feeling better!


I''m slightly frustrated here. DH and I went to visit our families this weekend, and we are staying with his parents. We didn''t think bding would be a problem since there is a couch that pulls out into a bed in the basement, where we''d have tons of privacy. But after inspection, it would have been like sleeping on a blanket over bars, so we ended up in his sister''s old room, on a squeaky bed, right next to his parent''s room...Any suggestions? I don''t want to miss the whole weekend, especially since I''m going home Sunday, but dh won''t be back till Tuesday since he has an interview on Monday.
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Daytime sex while they''re out!
 
Date: 11/7/2008 8:23:54 AM
Author: Sabine
I''m slightly frustrated here. DH and I went to visit our families this weekend, and we are staying with his parents. We didn''t think bding would be a problem since there is a couch that pulls out into a bed in the basement, where we''d have tons of privacy. But after inspection, it would have been like sleeping on a blanket over bars, so we ended up in his sister''s old room, on a squeaky bed, right next to his parent''s room...Any suggestions? I don''t want to miss the whole weekend, especially since I''m going home Sunday, but dh won''t be back till Tuesday since he has an interview on Monday.
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Been there, done that
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. Our solution was to do it in the evening either standing up or on the floor, just be really really quiet
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***TMI alert***

Our wedding night, the first night married, we were all in a villa with old squeeky beds. sigh. Our "honeymoon suite" (lol) had an armchair in it.

TAH DAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! problem solved.

As you can see it was a VERY romantic wedding night. haha. We made up for it by checking into the most phenomenal hotel the next night for some pampering.
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Sabine, I ditto the floor suggestion.

Hi Steph, glad to hear everything checked ok with the RE. The waiting is terrible. Are you charting?

Mela, your moral support makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside...thanks for sticking around here to cheer us on!
 
Date: 11/6/2008 3:42:11 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly

Here is a new name I really like that I''ve never liked before, but now I do (a lot): Analeise. So pretty!!
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Just popping in to say HI
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to everyone! I hope you are getting over your sicknesses, Fishie and Amber. Feel better sooooon! And wishing everyone a beautiful weekend.

And Fisher I just had to say that I do like the new name you''ve thought of! Very pretty
 
Thanks, Sunkist.

Today I''m feeling much better!! Yay!

Hope you are, too, Amber.
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Fever broke and now I''m good to go with the charting, I think.

Paul rejected the Analeise name. Oh well, I already have our little girl''s name chosen, anyway.
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Thanks for the suggestions girls! We were able to bd a few times, so hopefully we should be covered, unless I O tomorrow (dh won''t be back till Tuesday). I did start seeing some EW today though...so now I''m hoping I don''t O till Tuesday or Wednesday!

I''m happy to be home, but I''m also glad that dh and I survived our first visit home as a married couple! I think we did pretty well, although I did skip out on church with his parents this morning so I could get an earlier start home.

In other news, we got to spend last evening dh''s best friend, his wife, and their 2 month old daughter Maya! She is so cute, and I was so excited to get to hold her and play with her since I haven''t really been around babies much at all (not since my 6 year old cousin was a baby, and even then, I was away at college most of the time), so it was a really great experience for dh and I that made us just that much more ready to have one of our own!
 
Sabine,

Baby time is great fun. It''s one of my favorite things, mostly for the part of being able to see my husband''s face as he plays and interacts with them. So precious!

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Any POAS lately, anyone?

Are we going through a drought??
 
CD14. Still hanging on to that cold, ever so slightly. Grr.

My temps still aren''t where they were in past cycles, but I think part of that is because we''ve added two additional covers to the bed and I snuggle *deep* down and often wake up HOT. Or it could be the sickness still with me. I don''t know. Still, I should see a rise when O comes, I''m thinking.

Our BD marathon will be a mini this cycle, due to the sickness. Hey, it''s worked really well for some, so we''re hoping this change in operation will be end in a positive for us, too.

Martha (Paul''s mom) is still in the hospital. We are hoping she will be able to come home by Thanksgiving, but she has to complete another round of chemo first and they can''t start this new round until her white blood cell count comes up. The good thing is that her spirits continue to be high and lifted up, which is the biggest battle there is in situations like this. I''ve not been able to visit her since my sickness came on (she can''t be around any sort of symptoms, since her immune system is shot right now), but Paul''s visited. He told her that he''s wanting to get me a glider for my birthday, for a baby. She smiled and said time will bring our dream to us. I still so desperately want to be able to share with her that her grandchild''s on the way. I know it will be yet another reason for her spirits to rise and for her to be strong and to focus on something other than illness. Thank you for your continued prayers for her, everyone. She''s going to be an awesome grandmother some day. Surely the spoiling type!

*If* this cycle is similar to last cycle, I could ovulate around the weekend (Sunday would be CD20 for me, day I ovulated last cycle). I''m hoping to ovulate by CD 20 so that I can take a pregnancy test on my birthday. That''s Nov. 26, and if I were to ovulate on Sunday, that would put me at 10 days past ovulation on my birthday. Still early, I know, but I think it would be the best birthday ever to have a dream realized and acknowledged for the first time on that day. Plus, Paul''s holding true to the glider present and says that even if we don''t know we''re preggo until the day of my birthday, he''ll still get me a glider. I think we''ll just wait til Christmas, though. I mean, I don''t want to spend our first day celebrating a baby coming into our lives by wandering around looking for a glider.

Anyway, that''s what my birthday wish is this year. Like you didn''t already know!

Have a good week, ladies!!
 
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