Thoughts on diamond

[sds061]

Based only on this pic of GIA cert please tell me what is good or bad about this stone if possible ..

 

[lovedogs]

how good or bad it is depends on the price. The proportions aren't bad, but note that it's a 60/60 style stone rather than a traditional "ideal cut" that we talk about on these boards. I recommend looking up info about 60/60 stones and looking at videos to make sure that style appeals to you.

K color and SI2 clarity should lower the price a lot, and I worry about whether the stone is eye clean or hazy due to the clouds.

On the pricescope diamond search tool there are stones in the I/J/K range in 3ct+ with more ideal proportions and SI1 clarity between in the 20-25K range, and of course up to the 35K+ range for whiter/VS clarity stones.

Is this purchase for you, or for someone else? If for someone else, are you sure that he or she is ok with a K color?

 

[sds061]

how good or bad it is depends on the price. The proportions aren't bad, but note that it's a 60/60 style stone rather than a traditional "ideal cut" that we talk about on these boards. I recommend looking up info about 60/60 stones and looking at videos to make sure that style appeals to you.

K color and SI2 clarity should lower the price a lot, and I worry about whether the stone is eye clean or hazy due to the clouds.

On the pricescope diamond search tool there are stones in the I/J/K range in 3ct+ with more ideal proportions and SI1 clarity between in the 20-25K range, and of course up to the 35K+ range for whiter/VS clarity stones.

Is this purchase for you, or for someone else? If for someone else, are you sure that he or she is ok with a K color?

Thanks so much for your reply. The stone is for me.. I have seen it in person and it does not face up as a K in color in my opinion. I have no idea what a 60/60 style stone is so I will attempt to research that...any advice on where to find videos on this is appreciated..Thanks again!

 

[diamondsR4eVR]

I have a smaller carat with similar numbers and K color as well. I love my stone! It has amazing fire and brightness. This may come down to a few things: price? do you love what your eyes see? return policy? And have you looked at the stone outside and in different lighting? I think it takes a good couple of weeks, personally, to see the personality of the stone and how it performs in everyday life.

 

[sds061]

I have a smaller carat with similar numbers and K color as well. I love my stone! It has amazing fire and brightness. This may come down to a few things: price? do you love what your eyes see? return policy? And have you looked at the stone outside and in different lighting? I think it takes a good couple of weeks, personally, to see the personality of the stone and how it performs in everyday life.

Thank you! My jeweler is AMAZING! My plan is to see how this diamond performs during a normal day in my life before I make a decision..I just wanted to see if there was something blaring wrong with this cert as I only briefly talked with my jeweler about it.

 

[headlight]

This is not a 60/60. I am not a fan of stones with larger table than depth. I also do not like such a low crown height. I would love to see a photo. And, as @lovedogs said, the clouds are of concern. But you have seen in person and you like it, and what you feel about it ultimately becomes more important than what is stated on a grading report. You are obviously looking for the largest stone you can get for your budget and this seems to check all the boxes. Have you run it through the HCA? If you can post photos that would be very helpful.

 

[lovedogs]

This is not a 60/60. I am not a fan of stones with larger table than depth. I also do not like such a low crown height. I would love to see a photo. And, as @lovedogs said, the clouds are of concern. But you have seen in person and you like it, and what you feel about it ultimately becomes more important than what is stated on a grading report. You are obviously looking for the largest stone you can get for your budget and this seems to check all the boxes. Have you run it through the HCA? If you can post photos that would be very helpful.

HCA is 2.1, so close enough that it's worth considering and seeing IRL, which is sounds like the OP has. I think a lot of it comes down to price and whether it will perform as well as more traditionally cut "ideal" stones. What makes you say that it isn't a 60/60 style stone?

 

[headlight]

HCA is 2.1, so close enough that it's worth considering and seeing IRL, which is sounds like the OP has. I think a lot of it comes down to price and whether it will perform as well as more traditionally cut "ideal" stones. What makes you say that it isn't a 60/60 style stone?

Totally agree with you that if might check all the boxes for OP.
I believe an actual 60/60 is just that... table 60, depth 60.

 

[lovedogs]

Totally agree with you that if might check all the boxes for OP.
I believe an actual 60/60 is just that... table 60, depth 60.

Not exactly (if my understanding is right). It just means that the stone has a depth/table that are close to each other and close to 60 (59-61).

 

[sds061]

Thank you for all your replies. Yes I do think my goal is to get the biggest look however I dont want a dead stone or one that is obviously yellow. I don’t mind some warmth as long as there is a lot of sparkle. I only saw the stone for a minute or two I plan on going back this week and will try to get pictures.

 

[sledge]

I believe @msop04 has a 59/59 with 34/40.6 combo. One advantage is her ring sizes up way larger than anything measuring the same carats.

Granted her crown and pavilion is less shallow than the 34.5/40.8 but it may be a simewhat representative comparison. Perhaps she will share her experiences.

Also @Karl_K may be able to offer some additional data on the 60 stars and 80 LGF. It seems he saw a stone with that combo he enjoyed but I also understand it to be a little risky. He can explain more.

Alas, do you have any pictures you can share? GIA grossly rounds and averages things, so seeing the arrows would be helpful for Karl.

 

[diamondsR4eVR]

There are some ppl that do not like a larger table which is what you have. It’s ok as long as you are okay with it. That’s why there’s chocolate and vanilla.
Get as many pictures as you can and look at stone in different lighting not just store lighting.

 

[Karl_K]

60% stars can potentially be an issue with this combo.
The upper girdle facets could be over steep.
The bigger the table the less room for the stars to be long without the uppers getting to steep.
An IS or ASET image would very quickly answer the question.
The GIA gross rounding makes it impossible to say for sure from the numbers.

 

[sds061]

As soon as I get some pictures of stones I will post them.. this is my current stone..

 

[sledge]

Your current stone looks beautiful.

Did I miss your budget? If you share, we may be able to help find a better alternate solution.

 

[sds061]

It’s really not about budget. I guess I really want to know if this is a smart upgrade or not an upgrade at all overall on this stone only . I appreciate all of the advice you all have given and as I said I should be able to post pics of the round soon.

 

[sds061]

Your current stone looks beautiful.

Did I miss your budget? If you share, we may be able to help find a better alternate solution.

And thank you for the compliment on my current stone

 

[headlight]

Beautiful ring and I would not upgrade if I were you... and certainly not for the stone you are considering.

 

[Txborn79]

Beautiful ring and I would not upgrade if I were you... and certainly not for the stone you are considering.

I agree. You already have a nice spread and the color difference will be very noticeable

 

[diamondsR4eVR]

Your current stone is beautiful! You have your reasons I’m sure, but I would not part with that beauty. But that’s just me. Your current stone reminds me of a large cushion I once had but looked more oval.

 

[sledge]

I feel you are comparing apples to oranges. Your current stone is an oval. The new one is round. The shape alone is enough to make people sway one way or the other.

Based on the proportions you originally posted, I would not be inclined to buy/trade for that stone over your current stone.

However, if you said I have $X to spend then I might be able to find you an alternate round diamond that I think will wow you.

 

[sds061]

I feel you are comparing apples to oranges. Your current stone is an oval. The new one is round. The shape alone is enough to make people sway one way or the other.

Based on the proportions you originally posted, I would not be inclined to buy/trade for that stone over your current stone.

However, if you said I have $X to spend then I might be able to find you an alternate round diamond that I think will wow you.

I appreciate that but it was a trade in my jeweler received and he showed it to us as we were walking out the door..I asked him to put it in a setting so I could see if I liked it..It does not face up K at all and I wanted to see if I liked it bc it did face up much larger than my oval.. I have had a round before and I like both shapes equally..

 

[sds061]

Here are some pics of the round

 

[diamondsR4eVR]

I personally think it’s beautiful. I’m new to MRB for ERs and I’m loving the flashes of color they give off.
Are you keeping the RB?

 

[sds061]

I personally think it’s beautiful. I’m new to MRB for ERs and I’m loving the flashes of color they give off.
Are you keeping the RB?

Thank you yes I think I am.. I will post a pic from inside and a video.. this guy sparkles like crazy no pic or video does it justice..

 

[sds061]

Well never mind I don’t know how to post video

 

[diamondsR4eVR]

I believe you have to upload to YouTube and use that link here. Or something like that. I’ve never tried.
Both stones are beautiful. You have to decide I guess which one makes your heart skip a beat.

 

[MsShnooks]

Based on the pictures, I‘d much prefer the oval on my finger.

 

[headlight]

You know it is funny because the 2 stones are not really off on measurements... but I think you like the fullness of the round and the large look it gives. I don't know if the photos are in similar surrounds for both stones... from the photos the oval is definitely brighter. However, as shown, the round certainly doesn't have the tint I would've expected in a K. Can you post a side view?
I don't know what it looks like in other lighting, and it seems the room you are in is fairly (drab) as far as lighting is concerned (not your room decor lol... I love your wood floors and paneled door!)... so with all that said, as well as the feedback you've been given that the stone may suffer, I don't think it is unattractive at all from what you've shown. Tell me... you said the jeweler received in on a trade... why was the customer getting rid of it???

 

[headlight]

Based on the pictures, I‘d much prefer the oval on my finger.

I, too, like the oval, and I don't think pretty ovals are easy to find, and also her oval looks so white! But I think OP is drawn to the larger, fuller look. However, it isn't as bright, although still looks attractive. So diff strokes for diff folks! I do understand, as I had 2 nicer, whiter diamonds before I had my most previous 3.29 RB but I wanted that size. But now I like having something smaller but in higher quality and much higher color so I made significant downgrade in size so, while it isn't a huge diamond and certainly not "impressive" in that context (depending on what someone perceives as impressive), it's colorless attribute definitely stands out amongst stones of lower color. But I think she is craving that larger look which I totally get as I was there at one point, so this may be a good one for her!