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Thoughts on this OMB greatly appreciated!

So hard to tell based on the video with black background. Wish it was filmed in more realistic lighting.
 
Can they give you an aset image on the stone?
Looks a bit leaky to me but it could be because the stone is at an angle.
 
I think it looks charming.

Leon has a nice eye. It's a chunkier more rustic facet structure, which is my preference for an OMB/OMC. I'm sure he'd send additional images/video as well, if you asked.

If you want him to do your setting, I believe you need to buy from him or have an heirloom stone.

This is one of the stones that is antique style that he has cut newly, correct?

It's a different flavor than Victor Canera or Distinctive Gem, which also does newly cut old styles. I prefer this faceting personally, even if possibly not as "perfect."
 
No ASET available and I'm not sure when it was cut.
 
Tryna said:
No ASET available and I'm not sure when it was cut.
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Do you want an actual old stone or do you want a stone that is newly cut, with an old style?

The newer cut stones are designed for "ideal" optics, but everyone is different. I prefer antique stones and not the newly cut stones.

Everyone is different. No right or wrong answer.
 
elizat said:
Do you want an actual old stone or do you want a stone that is newly cut, with an old style?

The newer cut stones are designed for "ideal" optics, but everyone is different. I prefer antique stones and not the newly cut stones.

Everyone is different. No right or wrong answer.
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I guess that I don't know exactly what I want, technically. I just know the photos of his cushion cut rings keep me up at night. So, I'm trying to learn all that I can.
 
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I thought LM ‘True Antique Cushions’ were newly cut? Maybe I read his website discussing that, the wrong way

This stone you linked - doesn’t have the similar facet pattern that I seem to see on his other ‘True Antique Cushions’

Doesn’t make it ‘wrong’ or unattractive IMO. Just a bit surprised.
I’d definitely wish to see more pictures of this one, especially next to other ‘True Antique Cushions’ he has.

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Never mind. Either I haven’t looked at his stones in a long time and somethings changed, or I’m just plain flat out wrong. The cushion you linked does look similar faceting style to quite a few of his other T.A.C. stones.
 
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tyty333 said:
Can they give you an aset image on the stone?
Looks a bit leaky to me but it could be because the stone is at an angle.
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Roughly 0% chance LM would provide an ASET. I’m sure he would be happy to take some videos for OP in real world lighting, however.

Edit: Wait, I think Leon may have taken a video of this stone for my sister a few weeks ago. Let me see if I can find it @Tryna !

Edit 2: It’s my understanding that LM also does custom cut True Antiques, so that could be another option if you really want him to do the setting. But as @Rfisher pointed out, his TACs seem less consistent in style than, say, AVCs, and I don’t know if he will guarantee a particular type of faceting/ratio/outline shape, color, clarity, etc. Might be worth asking, though!
 
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Honestly, I can’t stand it. I hate how the lowest facets don’t all meet the culet. I think it’s a very odd design.
 
It is very odd, I agree @Tourmaline … I do however like it though, but only “like” - this is not something I’d choose for an e ring bc it is a little funky

I think there are nicer cushions out there but if you like this look I’d go for something that has the “Maltese cross” like and August Vintage Cushion (modern cut, antique vibe) or even a Peruzzi (oh how they make my heart flutter, but they are very rare especially in large sizes because they are true antiques)
 
That stone is even wonkier than the first. The culet is not centered either.
 
What does one do then?? I am at a loss.
 
I don't like the "x" that I see from the front. It's not a Maltese cross that I do like. The second stone is wonky because the culet is off center.
 
Tryna said:
What does one do then?? I am at a loss.
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If you aren’t able to find a diamond through him, I’d encourage widening your search and consider the possibility that a) he may set and outside stone or b) you’ll be working with another vendor

this is a really big purchase, and larger, nicely cut stones are hard enough to come by - especially at the moment so don’t give up hope but I’d also encourage you not to settle

I imagine (and this is purely a guess) that Leon would be more likely to set a true antique that wasn’t purchased through him than a modern cut stone that was cut by a competitor

old world diamonds (you’ll have to call on the phone) and jewels by grace have true antiques

Modern cut but antique style cushions can be found with Distinctive Gems and Good old gold, as well as Victor Canera (and he does wonderful hand forged settings)

there are other vendors too - if you share exactly what you are looking for people may look and shares stones for you

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@Cerulean Thank you so much for those links.

This is the ring I have been looking at for years. This is what I want.
 
Tryna said:
@Cerulean Thank you so much for those links.

This is the ring I have been looking at for years. This is what I want.
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I understand the dilemma. Could you ask him about sourcing a stone for you? I’m not sure what services he offers frankly…since I’ve not worked with him!
 
We chatted back and forth a bit about it, and I understand that, as you mentioned, stones are not easy to come by right now.
 
I don’t agree with the others that the culet is off center on the second one. I think it’s the angle of filming. That said, the stone is too shallow for an old mine cut. Leon is not know for sourcing well cut stones. Find a diamond to purchase elsewhere and pay the extra charge to have him make you a ring with a separately sourced stone.
 
Tryna said:
Do we like this stone? I'm really trying to understand what everyone sees that I cannot. I am sure it's going to take a while and I truly appreciate all of your suggestions.

https://www.goodoldgold.com/diamonds/id/3839684
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Have not looked at that stone specifically in detail, but I'm pretty sure that he will not set that stone for you.

I looked quickly and it's an August vintage stone, which are supposed to be cut for optimal light performance, so it should perform nicely. That said, I'm simply not a fan of the August vintage cushion. However, it is a much nicer cut still than the two on the website for Leon. I just don't particularly like that cut style.
 
Tryna said:
Do we like this stone? I'm really trying to understand what everyone sees that I cannot. I am sure it's going to take a while and I truly appreciate all of your suggestions.

https://www.goodoldgold.com/diamonds/id/3839684
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Yes I fear he would not set this, because it is not a true antique and was cut by a competitor like what @Tourmaline suggested

I mentioned previously I imagine he is more likely to set a true antique stone I think but I am not certain...

This might have too much "tint" (it is M color, so will not be pure white but more ivory) - but this is a Peruzzi cut, older than old mines and have a gorgeous maltese cross

i think they are stunning but they are a different flavor than antique cushions - this one in this size would be extremely rare - it has inclusion on the table which would bother many here but i frankly wouldn't care...this is all personal preference

www.jewelsbygrace.com

2.09ct Peruzzi Cut Diamond, GIA M SI1

What a rare diamond this is! One of the oldest cuts we have in inventory, this diamond was acquired from a source who unmounted it from a Georgian piece of jewelry. The diamond is very charming in its rustic faceting and face up, and would make for a pretty special piece of jewelry. Super bright...
www.jewelsbygrace.com www.jewelsbygrace.com
 
Tryna said:
I'm really trying to understand what everyone sees that I cannot.
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Tryna said:
I really appreciate everyone's thoughts. My dilemma is that I have a ring I love that Leon made for me a few years ago, and I want to work with him on this cushion project. I've enjoyed working with him very much
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Tryna said:
This is the ring I have been looking at for years. This is what I want.
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after re-reading what you wrote here

my suggestion (Especially if you were my relative or long time friend) would be to stick with one of Leon’s branded true antique cushion cuts - even though you may have to wait a while to get one in your desired specs/budget - and in the more square ratio to mimic your inspiration ring.

Especially since there’s the great chance Leon won’t set an outside stone- especially a branded one, as already been said
 
Tryna said:
Do we like this stone? I'm really trying to understand what everyone sees that I cannot. I am sure it's going to take a while and I truly appreciate all of your suggestions.

https://www.goodoldgold.com/diamonds/id/3839684
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Yes!

Leon has a reputation for being condescending and temperamental, and if the nicest stone is your objective, I’d advise you to choose a different jeweler. That said, you came here wanting a Leon ring, specifically, so you may have to settle for a stone that diamond experts won’t like.
 
Respectfully, I don't find either of his stones attractive
 
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