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Thoughts on this Vintage Natural Ruby Diamond Ring

Aussiewen

Aussiewen

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So I’m searching for an affordable Vintage Ruby diamond ring
Do you like this colour? Does the clarity look ok?
It’s a 2.5 Carat Ruby
Measurements are: 9.78mm by 7.83mm by 3.79mm.
The cost is $5700 USD
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Pretty ring! There are a few goodies in there, but clarity looks great. The stone appears rather shallow, so that will affect cut. Color is very subjective, but if you like these deeper, more purple-leaning stones, then this could be the ring for you. With regard to price, do you know about treatments? That influences ruby value greatly. Barring any surprises, the price is reasonable for what I would expect for this piece.
 
I think you could do better with a garnet if you like this color.

@Autumn in New England is right about the price/quality expectation, but since it’s a ruby of 2.5 carat, 5.7k is simply too low for this to be a good ruby. The whole price is setting + the “fact” that it’s a ruby.

To me, it is a ruby only on paper :(
 
Is there anyway I can attach a video. The video under there down lights is showing how pinkish the Ruby is. So it’s amazing how it changes under lighting conditions
I’ve attached screenshots of video
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Is it treated?
 
It looks like it has a chip. Also, do you see any areas near the prongs that look included? Maybe it's the light, but borrow their loupe.
 
I think I’m gonna pull the pin and get it. The videos in outside lighting look amazing
 
There is a valuation specifying its natural untreated. I will get a lab report once I buy it.
Thanks
 
Aussiewen said:
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Can you get photos in natural daylight?
I have seen rubies go from screaming pink-red in incandescent light to dead looking duds in fluorescent light. You need natural daylight to evaluate, anything else is only showing part of the deal
 
For me, it's too pink/purple. If you like that color that is fine, but for me, I want RED. Do check it out in other lighting situations.
 
See, that’s the problem with ruby, anything decent looking (ok color, not trade ideal) in that size and setting will cost 20k or more. Heated maybe 12-15k if you are lucky. Anything less than that and you are paying for the fact that demand and hype about ruby is too high, not for quality.

Forget about that fact that it’s a ruby - would you pay 5.7k for that? I would not, you can do better with a garnet, or a spinel, or rubellite
 
I know a lot of folks will go by how a gem looks under artificial lighting, because maybe they work in an office or are stay-at-home moms who tend to view their pieces indoors. Everybody's preferences are different and really there's no wrong answer.

For me, because artificial lighting can be so inconsistent and is, well, unnatural, I only "test" my gem color in indirect daylight around midday. That can vary a bit too depending on cloud cover or how close you are to the equator, but I find it to be quite reliable. I will also use a 5,500 kelvin light source, which can mimic noontime light temp and is what most labs tend to use. Anyway, the gem will either live or die by that in my book.

More often than not, gem color is enhanced by artificial lighting (incandescent for warmer gems like ruby and LED/fluorescent for cooler gems like blue sapphire) and then can die once it hits natural light. My point is, if a gem looks great when the light is neither too cool nor too warm, you have yourself a winner in my book.

As @VividRed expected, this ruby turned into a corpse once it saw daylight. I don't want to rain on your parade, but unless you really love this color, it's a hard pass for me. I know your heart may be set on a ruby, but I echo this sentiment... "you can do better with a garnet, spinel, or rubellite."
 
Autumn in New England said:
I know a lot of folks will go by how a gem looks under artificial lighting, because maybe they work in an office or are stay-at-home moms who tend to view their pieces indoors. Everybody's preferences are different and really there's no wrong answer.

For me, because artificial lighting can be so inconsistent and is, well, unnatural, I only "test" my gem color in indirect daylight around midday. That can vary a bit too depending on cloud cover or how close you are to the equator, but I find it to be quite reliable. I will also use a 5,500 kelvin light source, which can mimic noontime light temp and is what most labs tend to use. Anyway, the gem will either live or die by that in my book.

More often than not, gem color is enhanced by artificial lighting (incandescent for warmer gems like ruby and LED/fluorescent for cooler gems like blue sapphire) and then can die once it hits natural light. My point is, if a gem looks great when the light is neither too cool nor too warm, you have yourself a winner in my book.

As @VividRed expected, this ruby turned into a corpse once it saw daylight. I don't want to rain on your parade, but unless you really love this color, it's a hard pass for me. I know your heart may be set on a ruby, but I echo this sentiment... "you can do better with a garnet, spinel, or rubellite."
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Agree that spinel, garnet, or rubelitte would be much more feasible to buy in a nice color!
 
Autumn in New England said:
I know a lot of folks will go by how a gem looks under artificial lighting, because maybe they work in an office or are stay-at-home moms who tend to view their pieces indoors. Everybody's preferences are different and really there's no wrong answer.

For me, because artificial lighting can be so inconsistent and is, well, unnatural, I only "test" my gem color in indirect daylight around midday. That can vary a bit too depending on cloud cover or how close you are to the equator, but I find it to be quite reliable. I will also use a 5,500 kelvin light source, which can mimic noontime light temp and is what most labs tend to use. Anyway, the gem will either live or die by that in my book.

More often than not, gem color is enhanced by artificial lighting (incandescent for warmer gems like ruby and LED/fluorescent for cooler gems like blue sapphire) and then can die once it hits natural light. My point is, if a gem looks great when the light is neither too cool nor too warm, you have yourself a winner in my book.

As @VividRed expected, this ruby turned into a corpse once it saw daylight. I don't want to rain on your parade, but unless you really love this color, it's a hard pass for me. I know your heart may be set on a ruby, but I echo this sentiment... "you can do better with a garnet, spinel, or rubellite."
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All good thanks. Could you perhaps share a photo of how you would like a nice Ruby to look in shade outdoors. That would be helpful thanks
 
Aussiewen said:
All good thanks. Could you perhaps share a photo of how you would like a nice Ruby to look in shade outdoors. That would be helpful thanks
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Well, I could post a photo of a nice ruby, but the price might be out of reach. That's the eternal conundrum. Are you set on a finished ring (if so, does it have to be vintage), or would you consider a loose stone? What is your max budget for each?
 
Autumn in New England said:
Well, I could post a photo of a nice ruby, but the price might be out of reach. That's the eternal conundrum. Are you set on a finished ring (if so, does it have to be vintage), or would you consider a loose stone? What is your max budget for each?
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Just out of curiosity would like to see the ideal Ruby gem or set ring. 2ct plus. Colour and clarity to your choice but without taking cost into the equation
Thanks
Thanks.
 
Naturally, I went straight to Enhoerning for an example of fine color (and clarity)... I also think this price is fantastic (even if it's not on budget). Actually, somebody buy this thing, please! Tiny window (maybe), but I think I can forgive it.
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You know, it's funny... I always sort of waiver on which is my favorite type of gem. Is it ruby, sapphire, spinel, paraiba, emerald, etc. But then I see a ruby like that and my heart (no pun intended) absolutely flutters. It's like when you meet that one boy (or girl) and just know. :kiss2:
 
This just arrived today. It was only $640 USD. Surely the setting would be worth more. I enjoy buying second hand jewellery.
The rubies total 2.20 carat and are completely eye clean. Little abrasion to one Ruby only seen with loupe but who cares! IMG_5818.jpegIMG_5797.jpegand 40 points of diamonds in 18ct white gold.
 
I did have an ok Ruby that I regret selling. The lady I sold it to got another valuation done and it went from 16k to $30k Valuation. When I sold to her she said she was taking a chance buying it from me for 3.5k then she sells it for $9k, lucky her!
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That is lovely for sure! Yep, I agree. Have fun with your new ring, and wait out the "perfect" one. I feel like we sometimes end up spending more $ altogether on pieces we don't love, than we would have if we just took our time.
 
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