Unidentified gem, advice please

[Gemlayman]

I could be way off here but I did a quick search of the MOHS scale and only found seven listed that are harder than quartz that fit the description otherwise: beryl, topaz, chrysoberyl, zircon, spinel, corundum (sapphire) and diamond, if that helps.

It does very much!!! Thanks a whole lot

 

[Gemlayman]

No idea what it is although it is ringing bells but I cant pull the memory up.
However the image of the crying lady in this stone is kinda freaking me out.

I seen the same thing, just a lil different interpretation, lol cool

 

[VividRed]

**edited by moderator, this is not allowed here**

You see, I gave you my honest opinion, i.e that one cannot ID a stone with pictures. You may not like it, but it’s true. It was neither rude nor offensive, just a simple fact. I am not a gem or mineral expert by the way. I just love gems and that is why I am here.

I understand you expected a different, more
fun and engaging answer. Mine wasn’t, but instead of accepting, or better yet, ignoring it, you started your fuss. Your insults are not welcome here. If you want to engage with this community, you need to accept that some opinions, and styles, might differ from yours.

 

[theredspinel]

Again, I have or had no expectation of definitive id, nor have I even asked for it. I only mentioned I don't know what it is... What is with these people
..they are multiplying

Look I get you. I also get the others saying no one can give a positive ID which is what your first post sounded like. It’s clearer now you just want to discuss it rather then positive ID it (which most other newbies that start off a first post like this) do ask for - literally a positive ID. You’re not doing that though and that’s clear now.

So stop arguing I don’t want you to get banned, I loved that last rock image you posted post #27 and I want to see more of your collection! So don’t argue just post pretty pics of rocks. What else you got??

 

[Gemlayman]

Lol ,, simple language escapes u

Put as simple as my ability allows; my name was chosen to convey my level of education in gemology, the title clearly says I seek advice, and not one time have even alluded that I expected anything more than opinions, and hoped for some advice from anyone with willingness and knowledge, to give it, I have repeated myself over and over, but I can not lift your vail of projections, as your ego has fully disillusioned your conscious perception. As others with expertise,and/or the ability to figure out how to look up the info provided, to greatly narrow the field of possibilities, have demonstrated their professionalism and common courtesy to a perfect stranger, with no promise of reward or compensation. To add, it is very possible to identify a gem through a picture alone. Proving the I'd is correct is a different task. Just like how I have accurately identified you just by reading your replies, only, is for a fact more accurate than identifying who you really are by observing an visual image of you.

 

[Gemlayman]

Look I get you. I also get the others saying no one can give a positive ID which is what your first post sounded like. It’s clearer now you just want to discuss it rather then positive ID it (which most other newbies that start off a first post like this) do ask for - literally a positive ID. You’re not doing that though and that’s clear now.

So stop arguing I don’t want you to get banned, I loved that last rock image you posted post #27 and I want to see more of your collection! So don’t argue just post pretty pics of rocks. What else you got??

Thanks for the objective advice, you are right, the vast majority here has made me feel welcome, and I don't want to get banned.

I will post pic here in a min

 

[Gemlayman]

Look I get you. I also get the others saying no one can give a positive ID which is what your first post sounded like. It’s clearer now you just want to discuss it rather then positive ID it (which most other newbies that start off a first post like this) do ask for - literally a positive ID. You’re not doing that though and that’s clear now.

So stop arguing I don’t want you to get banned, I loved that last rock image you posted post #27 and I want to see more of your collection! So don’t argue just post pretty pics of rocks. What else you got??

You know what I've never actually ever showed anybody my collection of rocks. It made me smile thank you very much.

 

[theredspinel]

I used to collect cool rocks as a kid but I would always eventually lose them!

 

[VividRed]

Put as simple as my ability allows; my name was chosen to convey my level of education in gemology, the title clearly says I seek advice, and not one time have even alluded that I expected anything more than opinions, and hoped for some advice from anyone with willingness and knowledge, to give it, I have repeated myself over and over, but I can not lift your vail of projections, as your ego has fully disillusioned your conscious perception. As others with expertise,and/or the ability to figure out how to look up the info provided, to greatly narrow the field of possibilities, have demonstrated their professionalism and common courtesy to a perfect stranger, with no promise of reward or compensation. To add, it is very possible to identify a gem through a picture alone. Proving the I'd is correct is a different task. Just like how I have accurately identified you just by reading your replies, only, is for a fact more accurate than identifying who you really are by observing an visual image of you.

Then why did you not just ignore my first comment? Left alone it would have simply died in the comments section.

This is not a place for confrontation so let’s start over, shall we?

Minerals with such a large crystal that can scratch quartz are likely to be of hardness above 7 (unless the quartz was weakened where you scratched it, hard to tell).

Topaz, corundum, garnet, spinel and diamond are the likely candidates that can have a yellow color.

Let’s exclude diamond, you would know if you had such a large chunk

Corundum (sapphire) is possible but the crystal formation of your stone does not match at all

Could be Topaz or garnet, but I admittedly know knowing of them so I will leave it here for others to comment.

Peace

 

[Gemlayman]

I used to collect cool rocks as a kid but I would always eventually lose them!

I have too, and got rid of all of the big ones and most of most of my smaller ones when I moved last year.

Here is the rose quartz I scratched, it caused that symmetrical chip

 

[Gemlayman]

Then why did you not just ignore my first comment? Left alone it would have simply died in the comments section.

This is not a place for confrontation so let’s start over, shall we?

Minerals with such a large crystal that can scratch quartz are likely to be of hardness above 7 (unless the quartz was weakened where you scratched it, hard to tell).

Topaz, corundum, garnet, spinel and diamond are the likely candidates that can have a yellow color.

Let’s exclude diamond, you would know if you had such a large chunk

Corundum (sapphire) is possible but the crystal formation of your stone does not match at all

Could be Topaz or garnet, but I admittedly know knowing of them so I will leave it here for others to comment.

Peace

I just posted a pic of quartz used, it looked flawless before I did the test. I forgot to mention I did the test where rub the crystal on raw ceramic, it looked clear to me, but my eye sight is poor.

Thanks, peace is great for me

 

[theredspinel]

I have too, and got rid of all of the big ones and most of most of my smaller ones when I moved last year.

Here is the rose quartz I scratched, it caused that symmetrical chip

What a pretty pink and deep pink! Where did you find this? Could we get a clearer picture of this and the second stone you posted?

 

[Gemlayman]

I just posted a pic of quartz used, it looked flawless before I did the test. I forgot to mention I did the test where rub the crystal on raw ceramic, it looked clear to me, but my eye sight is poor.

Thanks, peace is great for me

The color oh ceramic test could've been white,it was hard to tell

 

[Gemlayman]

What a pretty pink and deep pink! Where did you find this? Could we get a clearer picture of this and the second stone you posted?

That was tipped to me from a usual customer who was always tipping with collector stones

 

[theredspinel]

That was tipped to me from a usual customer who was always tipping with collector stones

How bizarre!! (In a very fun way!) I wish I would meet someone who’d just hand me beautiful rocks…

Who needs flowers?!

 

[Gemlayman]

That was tipped to me from a usual customer who was always tipping with collector stones (lil more than 2 inch diameter)

I got a lot of labadorite from him

 

[Gemlayman]

What a pretty pink and deep pink! Where did you find this? Could we get a clearer picture of this and the second stone you posted?

Sure

 

[Gemlayman]

Sure

 

[Gemlayman]

Sorry for taking so long to respond

 

[Obscura]

What a cool idea for tips. I know not everyone would appreciate it, but it's awesome you kept them.

 

[theredspinel]

Wow! Do you know what the second stone with the green in, is? I thought it was an opal rough from the first pic but second one doesn’t look like it.

 

[theredspinel]

A bit of a tangent but THIS is why I could never love lab created gemstones the same way I love natural gemstones. To have these amazing treasures nestled between drab bits of rock and sediment… to have this vibrant almost ‘life’ of colour etc… just wow.

As much as I love cut and polished gemstones and jewellery, these rocks are where it all began. Love it, thank you @Gemlayman for sharing.

 

[Gemlayman]

Wow! Do you know what the second stone with the green in, is? I thought it was an opal rough from the first pic but second one doesn’t look like it.

I am not sure, but it looks like turquoise. The cam is misleading, cause in pics it almost looks emrald like, to me.

 

[Gemlayman]

What a cool idea for tips. I know not everyone would appreciate it, but it's awesome you kept them.

In retrospect, I imagine that is why he continued to tip in such a way, seeing my excitement and genuine apreciation for them. Honestly they were more gifts than tips, because I know I did not earn them, and I can imagine it was the same guy who gave op crystal, even though more than a few did gift rare minerals as tips to me

 

[Gemlayman]

GLASS....It turns out to be a fragment of manufactured glass. This surprises me becausese it feels grainular on the tooth, that is supposed mean the crystal in question is not glass. It was tested by a professional that said the instrument would indicate if it was any kind gem, natural or manufactured, and he said it is without a doubt hexilite glass. I tried to find a link with a exact match to the quoted name, but could only find a close reference: https://bendheim.com/honeycomb-reinforced-architectural-glass/.

Before talking with him, I did find it unusual how the surface appears to a result of conchoidal fracturing.

I did a little research, and found reference to glass much harder than diamond:

Scientists Develop World’s Strongest Glass That’s Hard Like A Diamond

The new material is, for now, called AM-III and as per claims by the scientists, it has outstanding mechanical and electronic properties.

www.indiatimes.com

 

[theredspinel]

GLASS....It turns out to be a fragment of manufactured glass. This surprises me becausese it feels grainular on the tooth, that is supposed mean the crystal in question is not glass. It was tested by a professional that said the instrument would indicate if it was any kind gem, natural or manufactured, and he said it is without a doubt hexilite glass. I tried to find a link with a exact match to the quoted name, but could only find a close reference: https://bendheim.com/honeycomb-reinforced-architectural-glass/.

Before talking with him, I did find it unusual how the surface appears to a result of conchoidal fracturing.

I did a little research, and found reference to glass much harder than diamond:

Scientists Develop World’s Strongest Glass That’s Hard Like A Diamond

The new material is, for now, called AM-III and as per claims by the scientists, it has outstanding mechanical and electronic properties.

www.indiatimes.com

Thank you so much for coming back to update us that never happens!! I didn’t know there were different types of glass.