What is wrong with this stone?

[Papillion]

What is the fissure type mark that runs through the stone? It's a shadowy white mark that just barely shows up on a loupe but really shows up in a photo. With my older eyes I can't see it without a loupe. Is it a glass filled crack?

 

[gingercurls]

What type of stone is it?

 

[Papillion]

What type of stone is it?

It's corundum. I was given a GIA cert on it listing it as pink sapphire, but when I had it reset into a different ring, the jeweler said that it didn't match the weight on the cert. So Jeweler said it looked to them that it was indeed corundum. Just didn't match the weight.

 

[gingercurls]

That is a little strange. Was that line there or apparent in the stone before it was reset?

 

[JackTrick]

Does it reach the surface or is it completely internal?

 

[Papillion]

That is a little strange. Was that line there or apparent in the stone before it was reset?

I didn't notice it before the stone was reset. I'm wondering if heating it brought out a possible glass fill line or if this was caused by the resetting.

 

[Papillion]

Does it reach the surface or is it completely internal?

It looks like it is internal. I can't see any surface roughness.

 

[chrono]

Heat isn't used when resetting so that's unlikely.

A stupid thought - the underside of the stone is clean (no dirt)?

 

[Papillion]

Heat isn't used when resetting so that's unlikely.

A stupid thought - the underside of the stone is clean (no dirt)?

Just shot another photo of it after having cleaned it, and I've been wearing it for severals weeks now. The jeweler did a beautiful setting, that's for certain. In this photo I still see it. I can't see it in every shot. Could it just be some camera flash glare?
I just wanted to add that this is the first loose colored stone that I ever bought, so forgive me if I didn't do such a great job. I was completely clueless.

 

[Django74th]

Can you share some information about where you got the setting? It's beautiful! Thanks!

 

[AnastasiaBeaverhausen]

Just shot another photo of it after having cleaned it, and I've been wearing it for severals weeks now. The jeweler did a beautiful setting, that's for certain. In this photo I still see it. I can't see it in every shot. Could it just be some camera flash glare?
I just wanted to add that this is the first loose colored stone that I ever bought, so forgive me if I didn't do such a great job. I was completely clueless.

What a mystery! Hm, if it's not feasible to take it back to your jeweler for a check-up, it may be worth buying a loupe so you could take a closer look?

 

[Papillion]

Can you share some information about where you got the setting? It's beautiful! Thanks!

It's from David Klaas. It's a setting that has been posted here before. Someone originally used it for a yellow diamond.

 

[Rfisher]

Do you have pictures of the stone in the original setting, your pictures or the listing photos?

 

[lambskin]

I’m curious why stone weight does not match the cert. who did the cert? Any photos of the stone on the cert? Was the weight over or under and by how much. The ring is sooooo beautiful.

 

[lilmosun]

Very pretty ring!

Was the certificate for a loose or mounted stone? If the latter, the weight is an estimate.

 

[Papillion]

I’m curious why stone weight does not match the cert. who did the cert? Any photos of the stone on the cert? Was the weight over or under and by how much. The ring is sooooo beautiful.

The cert is by GIA. I bought the stone loose from a local jewelry store to make a ring for me. The cert I received said that it is 1.86 carats. and David Klaas weighed it as 1.63, and weighed it twice to confirm. I had it mounted in another ring for about a year and half before replacing it in that setting with a diamond. I never took any photos of it prior to this because I was always disappointed in the way it looked in its prior setting of a halo with diamonds and platinum. It grayed it out, and it already has gray in it. Looks much better in the 18k gold.

 

[Papillion]

Very pretty ring!

Was the certificate for a loose or mounted stone? If the latter, the weight is an estimate.

Can they be off by as much as .23? That was the difference in weight. The local jewelry store (not David Klaas!) brought in a lot of different pink sapphires for me to look at. It's possible the vendor that sent them the stones included the wrong GIA report. But shouldn't the jewelry store have weighed the stone to verify its weight? I was just wondering if to add insult to injury the stone is glass filled. WIth an inaccurate GIA report, who knows?

 

[Papillion]

Do you have pictures of the stone in the original setting, your pictures or the listing photos?

No, I bought it loose from a local jewelry store, and so no photos. I should have photographed it when I brought it home to look at it. Now I know that.

 

[Rfisher]

Does your GIA report have a photo of the stone on it? (Online lookup or your hard copy?)

 

[Papillion]

Does your GIA report have a photo of the stone on it? (Online lookup or your hard copy?)

Yes, it does. I have the hard copy. It doesn't show any whitish line in the photo. I never really though it looked that much like the photo.

 

[Mrs_Strizzle]

Did David say that the mm was accurate though? A quarter of a carat seems like it's the wrong report on a loose stone, for sure to me...

 

[Rfisher]

You’d surely need to unmount the stone and send it back to GIA to have another report done to know for sure about the treatment you are questioning.
If you find out what you fear - I do not know there are any recourse against the original jeweler who sold it to you, with the time that has passed. I am no lawyer though.
Will knowing the answer to your question help or hinder your enjoyment of the current (new) ring you have?

 

[Papillion]

Did David say that the mm was accurate though? A quarter of a carat seems like it's the wrong report on a loose stone, for sure to me...

They did say that it basically fit the measurements given on the GIA. They didn't state "we measured it and it was exact." I'm not sure if it was exactly that. It might have been a mixup on the part of the vendor who sent the stones over to the jewelry store, or it might have been deliberate. No way of knowing now.

 

[Papillion]

You’d surely need to unmount the stone and send it back to GIA to have another report done to know for sure about the treatment you are questioning.
If you find out what you fear - I do not know there are any recourse against the original jeweler who sold it to you, with the time that has passed. I am no lawyer though.
Will knowing the answer to your question help or hinder your enjoyment of the current (new) ring you have?

So much time had passed that there was nothing that I could do. That jewelry store had been in business over 25 years in my area, so I thought they were fairly reputable. They're going out of business now. Owner says because of retirement (per Nextdoor app -- I never went there again because of probs I had with them!) or because of COVID killing their business. I have decided that I will enjoy my ring no matter what. It's actually pretty in person to my untrained eye. The photography shows so many flaws in the stone. I just was trying to educate myself for future purchases about what to look for when buying a colored stone.

 

[lambskin]

Absolutely the right next step! Enjoy your beautiful ring...it is a stunner!

 

[Laurainthesky]

Maybe the stone was just recut? Nothing nefarious. I read a few articles that glass filled stones fall apart catastrophically, not in a subtle way.

 

[Papillion]

Maybe the stone was just recut? Nothing nefarious. I read a few articles that glass filled stones fall apart catastrophically, not in a subtle way.

Well, to further add to the story, when I took this stone out of a setting, I replaced it with a diamond. The seller who sold me the diamond is well known and very reputable here on Pricescope, and I love the diamond, so I will let them remain anonymous. I asked them if they knew anyone who could recut a stone to get rid of some of the extinction. When they said the stone was ready, they said that all they did was repolish it because it had a poor polish. They didn't admit that they had tried to recut it, and they didn't charge me anything for the repolish. I don't know if someone took a stab at trying to recut it and it began to crack, so they didn't want to admit to doing anything. I thought perhaps it was was a farfetched theory, so I didn't mention it. David Klaas offered me the option of sending the stone back to GIA and trying to get to the bottom of why it had lost weight from the certificate amount, but it had been away from the original vendor so long that I figured why bother.

 

[kgizo]

Does your original receipt include the GIA report # and if yes, does it match the report you have?
The stone looks great in that setting!

 

[ForteKitty]

Yikes. I have heard of a few instances where a polish or recut worsened existing inclusions and the stone developed internal cracks. I really hope they didn't intentionally hide that from you.

 

[AnastasiaBeaverhausen]

It sounds like it'll be difficult to determine what exactly happened to it. My main concern would be to find out what that line is exactly and how it may or may not affect durability. FWIW, it's still a very pretty stone!