What is wrong with this stone?

[peacechick]

By this time it sounds like it’s been through so many hands, including two settings and an attempted recut that really it could have been anything (all of the above?) causing stress on the stone, not ruling out your own wear too. I agree it’s pointless to send it back to GIA. Unsetting and resetting might make things worse when this setting is perfect already and the ring still looks pretty to you.

 

[blingmeupscotty]

Fwiw when weighing the stones unless a calibration happens every time the scale is used [it's happened to me several times] it is very common to come up with multiple weight variations.

 

[Papillion]

Does your original receipt include the GIA report # and if yes, does it match the report you have?
The stone looks great in that setting!

Yes, the ID number on my copy of the GIA report does match the number and report that is listed on the GIA site.

 

[Papillion]

Fwiw when weighing the stones unless a calibration happens every time the scale is used [it's happened to me several times] it is very common to come up with multiple weight variations.

So perhaps David Klaas's scale is off?

 

[Papillion]

Yikes. I have heard of a few instances where a polish or recut worsened existing inclusions and the stone developed internal cracks. I really hope they didn't intentionally hide that from you.

Does that line look like a crack to you? Will the stone be susceptible now to continuing to crack if accidentally bumped very hard against something? I know there is always a risk to having a stone recut. I have always been dissatisfied with the amount of extinction it exhibits or brilliance or whatever terminology you would like to use. I just wish they had notified me if they did try to actually recut it. I understood there was some risk. The diamond seller never said, "We found so and so to recut your stone, and we'll have you discuss it with them." Just returned it saying they'd repolished it. I didn't know about a cracking risk with repolishing. Okay, another thing I learned!

 

[peacechick]

Does that line look like a crack to you? Will the stone be susceptible now to continuing to crack if accidentally bumped very hard against something? I know there is always a risk to having a stone recut. I have always been dissatisfied with the amount of extinction it exhibits or brilliance or whatever terminology you would like to use. I just wish they had notified me if they did try to actually recut it. I understood there was some risk. The diamond seller never said, "We found so and so to recut your stone, and we'll have you discuss it with them." Just returned it saying they'd repolished it. I didn't know about a cracking risk with repolishing. Okay, another thing I learned!

Do you mean windowing? The lack of brilliance in the middle is caused by the lack of faceting, usually due to a shallow cut. I can believe that they didn’t recut it because to recut it would make your stone much smaller and they would have to inform you of this.

For smaller stones under 2 cts there’s usually nothing you can do but try to live with the window...

 

[Papillion]

Do you mean windowing? The lack of brilliance in the middle is caused by the lack of faceting, usually due to a shallow cut. I can believe that they didn’t recut it because to recut it would make your stone much smaller and they would have to inform you of this.

For smaller stones under 2 cts there’s usually nothing you can do but try to live with the window...

Yes, it does exhibit about 50% extinction darkness. It's a very shallow cut stone. I have since learned about proper depths for good cuts. I had thought that if anyone had attempted a recut they would have told me it didn't have enough depth to recut. A vendor at a gemstone show told me that they didn't think that I should do anything with it, to leave it as is, that it looked fine. I agree, I don't think the diamond seller would have had someone do a recut and not discuss it with me.

 

[blingmeupscotty]

So perhaps David Klaas's scale is off?

I would venture a guess and say that the GIA cert could have very well been off. The problem with original certifications is origination. Although they provide the "what" they never provide the "how". Services such as worthy remove the gems themselves before sending out to labs for certification. We do not know where this stone came from. There could have been a scale error, there could have been a typographical error-but I am more apt to trust DK than GIA because of the sheer size and volume that runs through them versus DK's attention to detail with the consumer. [note: this is not to discredit GIA just a hypothesis on the size discrepancy of this stone].

 

[Rfisher]

Does that line look like a crack to you? Will the stone be susceptible now to continuing to crack if accidentally bumped very hard against something? I know there is always a risk to having a stone recut. I have always been dissatisfied with the amount of extinction it exhibits or brilliance or whatever terminology you would like to use. I just wish they had notified me if they did try to actually recut it. I understood there was some risk. The diamond seller never said, "We found so and so to recut your stone, and we'll have you discuss it with them." Just returned it saying they'd repolished it. I didn't know about a cracking risk with repolishing. Okay, another thing I learned!

Yes, it does exhibit about 50% extinction darkness. It's a very shallow cut stone. I have since learned about proper depths for good cuts. I had thought that if anyone had attempted a recut they would have told me it didn't have enough depth to recut. A vendor at a gemstone show told me that they didn't think that I should do anything with it, to leave it as is, that it looked fine. I agree, I don't think the diamond seller would have had someone do a recut and not discuss it with me.

I’m getting confused of when you are speaking about your sapphire, vs when you are speaking about your diamond.

I hope both can still give you joy when you wear them though!

 

[Papillion]

I’m getting confused of when you are speaking about your sapphire, vs when you are speaking about your diamond.

I hope both can still give you joy when you wear them though!

I'm always speaking about my sapphire. I just asked my diamond seller because of their presence in the industry if they knew someone who could recut my sapphire, as they were the ones that removed it and reset their diamond in my ring. I had no need to recut my diamond. It's just lovely!

 

[Rfisher]

Got it! I read it wrong

 

[LD]

Does the line look like a crack? Yes it could be. Did you mention you had recently had it set or re-set? Very occasionally if there's a weakness in a stone, the process of folding the prongs over the stone which needs some force can make that weakness worse and a crack appears. Unfortunately, it's nobody's fault when this happens, it's just the internal structure of the stone. Why not get a loupe or ask a jeweller to have a look at it for you?

 

[Papillion]

Does the line look like a crack? Yes it could be. Did you mention you had recently had it set or re-set? Very occasionally if there's a weakness in a stone, the process of folding the prongs over the stone which needs some force can make that weakness worse and a crack appears. Unfortunately, it's nobody's fault when this happens, it's just the internal structure of the stone. Why not get a loupe or ask a jeweller to have a look at it for you?

I have a loupe, and yes, it does show up when louped. I just had no idea if it was actually a crack. I'll have to see if I can find a jeweler I trust in my area to look at it for me. If it is indeed a crack, does this mean I have to be extra careful when wearing it? Or that I should only wear it occasionally and not every day? Well, I guess you get what you pay for when you buy heated corundum -- and a shallow stone.