What style of setting is this?

[ItsMainelyYou]

Every collecction starts with a longing

And money, mostly you need money. I can hear my spinel box with tiny yellings of, set me.

 

[JewelledEscalators]

Yes. I don't really have a loose stone collection, but when I buy a stone, I intend to use a pre-loved setting for it.

In any case, don't most of us juggle things around where we buy things and sell them off later to either fund new purchases or keep our finances in check?

 

[T L]

But then again, this Belle Epoque ring has a similar shank to mine:

Belle Epoque Diamond Bandeau Ring

A very versatile piece, this stunning Belle Epoque diamond ring adds sparkle to any wardrobe. Crafted in platinum over 18K yellow gold, this antique charmer is set with tiny rose cuts half way along the shanks, and six larger Old Brilliant cut diamonds in the center. We love the idea of a wide...

www.sofiakaman.com

Not really. Notice that yours has an open notch that actually splits the shanks,, and a smooth divet at the connection point. This is more a modern touch.

 

[JewelledEscalators]

Not sure what you mean by a smooth divet. It's not smooth at the connectin point, and the 'notch' you refer to I can see in the other ring too.

 

[Tayberry]

It looks like a Ribbon ring or bow ring. I have one from the 1940s

 

[JewelledEscalators]

I see what you mean. Slightly different design but speaking of ribbons, somebody on PS used to have a gorgeous ribbon ring with emerald (that they later detached). Still think about that ring every now and again.

 

[T L]

I’m referring to this circled divet. The antique ring you posted a link to looks just like two separate bands coming together, although I cannot see the soddering connection. Your ring looks like it has more of a modern double shank joint. I could be wrong, it’s just an observation. It could be that your ring is truly antique but had a new shank put on at a later date. Or, I could be completely wring. I’m not an antique jewelry expert, but I’ve seen a lot of antique jewelry and that shank seemed to not go with the rest of the ring. The connection between the two rings forms a “u” shape as well. Maybe the shank was redone to resize the ring???

 

[JewelledEscalators]

Hmm. To me, the below ring looks similar

Belle Epoque Diamond Bandeau Ring

A very versatile piece, this stunning Belle Epoque diamond ring adds sparkle to any wardrobe. Crafted in platinum over 18K yellow gold, this antique charmer is set with tiny rose cuts half way along the shanks, and six larger Old Brilliant cut diamonds in the center. We love the idea of a wide...

www.sofiakaman.com

I can't really tell with these things.

Antique rings having shanks altered I don't believe is unusual given that most antique shops offer resizing of rings, and in itself I don't thinnk it impacts price for most types of rings (it's different maybe if it was like a roman ring or something very old and it was nothing but a simple gold band).

I thought the important thing is that it's in keeping with the original style - that I can't say. You could be right, it might be a later addition, and may not be in keeping with the original style/work of that period.

A whlie back, I sold a Georgian mourning ring which I advertised as possibly shank changed, as it felt 'modern' in feel but later I realised that it was typical for that period.

Who knows?

Where is the antique expert of PS?

 

[JewelledEscalators]

At the moment, I'm more curious about the stone.

It seems almost navy in low light and under my orange-ish lamp shade and almost looks opaque, but in daylight/strong light it looks much more transparent and in direct sun, the tone and colour is completely different. It's like the attached photo (this is flash). It also seems to go from mid blue with no hint of violet to almost violet blue in certain lighting conditions. There also seems too be an iridiscent shimmer (like a film) I can see in certain lights and with my loupe.

I'm not really a blue sapphire person so don't know if that's normal for sapphires.

I suppose my ruby also looks quite different under different lighting conditions so maybe that's just the sapphire version of it.

I'm thinking of getting it tested.

 

[JewelledEscalators]

So had the metal tested, and it's platinum on top and 18ct gold on the bottom. The platinum seems typical of a belle epoque ring.

 

[T L]

So had the metal tested, and it's platinum on top and 18ct gold on the bottom. The platinum seems typical of a belle epoque ring.

Do you think the shank was added later in order to resize the ring?

 

[JewelledEscalators]

I don't know for certain, but I am thinking maybe.

 

[JewelledEscalators]

Do you think the shank was added later in order to resize the ring?

I've now taken it to an antiques dealer and his opinion was that the top is original (he reckoned 1850) but the shank has been changed/modififed/added later. Anyway, decided to put it up for sale as doesn't suit my podgy fingers and generally not into blue sapphires so much (only certain very specific kinds). If it doesn't sell, am thinking of modifying it by taking out the centre stone an putting a bright red spinel in it. Might look very striking.

 

[Ionysis]

At the moment, I'm more curious about the stone.

It seems almost navy in low light and under my orange-ish lamp shade and almost looks opaque, but in daylight/strong light it looks much more transparent and in direct sun, the tone and colour is completely different. It's like the attached photo (this is flash). It also seems to go from mid blue with no hint of violet to almost violet blue in certain lighting conditions. There also seems too be an iridiscent shimmer (like a film) I can see in certain lights and with my loupe.

I'm not really a blue sapphire person so don't know if that's normal for sapphires.

I suppose my ruby also looks quite different under different lighting conditions so maybe that's just the sapphire version of it.

I'm thinking of getting it tested.

I think you bought this from Ishy right? Just ask - they are very reputable.

 

[JewelledEscalators]

I think you bought this from Ishy right? Just ask - they are very reputable.

? Who's Ishy? I bought this at an auction in the UK

 

[JewelledEscalators]

Oh I see, Ishy is a name of an antique shop - just looked up their insta/website. No, didn't buy it off them. Why did you see something similar on sale?

 

[Ionysis]

How peculiar / suspicious.

Just yesterday when I wrote that comment YOUR EXACT RING was on the Ishy antiques Instagram page. But since I posted my comment it has been deleted. Most odd.

 

[JewelledEscalators]

How peculiar / suspicious.

Just yesterday when I wrote that comment YOUR EXACT RING was on the Ishy antiques Instagram page. But since I posted my comment it has been deleted. Most odd.

Really?? How weird!

 

[Ionysis]

Maybe they deleted it because it had been sold. But it was on there two days ago.

 

[JewelledEscalators]

The exact same one? I've never seen one that's the same. They're based near Hatton Garden right, and the auction house I bought it off was nearby too so maybe they sold it through them.

 

[JewelledEscalators]

How much was it going for, out of interest, as I'm selling mine.

 

[LightBright]

Hi,

I bought a sapphire ring recently (I'll probably look to resell) and just wondered what the style of this is called? Is it Belle Epoque? I am thinking that it's probably not an original antique and likely a modern reproduction, or possibly the band is a modern replacement, but just wanted to find rings of a similar design and not sure which era to search for. I've seen quite a few belle epoque type rings with a similar scroll type design but most are toi et moi rings. The stone colour is darker than the photos by the way.

I’m guessing Belle Epoque and authentic. We recently had a PS posting of another Belle Epoque ring (1871-1914) that I assumed was a repro but when I looked further into it- it seemed real. Your ring looks real to me - I think the old mines in the four points and the rose cuts in the shank look antique, etc. Shank looks replaced in the section shown. The sapphire looks like Burma but the Colored Stones section would be far more expert on that. This ring will be snapped up if you resell it. Gorgeous, beautiful and unique. Can you post a photo that shows the truer color of the sapphire?

 

[LightBright]

It's sold by a jeweler in France that deals in both antique and new pieces. It's made in-house by the jeweler, new, to order. https://www.bijouxbaume.com/1-bague-saphir-et-diamants/

There are new reproductions being sold out of Turkey, Italy, Argentina, and now I’m seeing France. The giveaway for the ring you link to are the modern cut diamonds on either side of the sapphire. But I think some repros are actually using old cut diamonds now for example rose cuts so you have to be really careful.

 

[LightBright]

Well that’s strange about the Ishy Instagram post of the exact same ring! The plot thickens. I still think your ring is REAL.

I’m still taking an uneducated guess that the sapphire is Burma origin.

 

[Rfisher]

There are new reproductions being sold out of Turkey, Italy, Argentina, and now I’m seeing France. The giveaway for the ring you link to are the modern cut diamonds on either side of the sapphire. But I think some repros are actually using old cut diamonds now for example rose cuts so you have to be really careful.

There was an ETSY shop (that I cannot find anymore ) that had everything labelled as authentically fabricated repros direct from Argentina. Not super cheap ones , but not outrageously priced either.
Shame I can’t find it anymore.

Not related to OP’s questions
But it was interesting to look thru.

 

[LightBright]

There was an ETSY shop (that I cannot find anymore ) that had everything labelled as authentically fabricated repros direct from Argentina. Not super cheap ones , but not outrageously priced either.
Shame I can’t find it anymore.

Not related to OP’s questions
But it was interesting to look thru.

Yes, about eight years ago I visited a little antique jewelry store in a beach town on the East Coast. The woman behind the counter showed me and I handled reproductions that were incredibly beautiful and finely made. She only had a few “real” antiques- everything else was from Argentina! She wouldn’t sell me a modern repro setting at the time, too bad. What she did say is that YES Argentina is a source for beautiful authentic looking antique style settings (mostly Belle Epoque type with rose cuts rubies or emeralds, etc.). Again that was eight years ago and I believe even now some of the ”antique” vendors are actually selling repros without knowing it once in a while. Buyer beware.

 

[JewelledEscalators]

@LightBright, thanks for the info. Yes the top looks original. I had the sapphire tested and they couldn't determine the origin. The sapphire colour looks different in different lightings. Also, when it's up close, it looks brighter, and darker when further away. I've now listed it on ebay with pics that are close to reality for pretty much what I paid for it + cert and there are some watchers.

 

[JewelledEscalators]

Here are some additional photos. Really hard to get the colour right. I first took photos that looked too bright, then only took dark looking photos and it looked too dark.

Here are some looking dark.

 

[JewelledEscalators]

Some looking lighter - it can look like this too. It also has a rainbowy shimmer in some lights.

 

[JewelledEscalators]

And others also looking different.hers also looking different.