Whiteflash Ready to go diamond studs

[MeganShannon11]

Has anyone purchased these in any of the sizes offered? Are you happy with them? I’m not sure I really need the upgrade option, so I’m wondering if these are a better value. Any thoughts on their cut/color/quality would be helpful.

 

[sledge]

Can you link to them?

Are the stones actual ACA's, or virtual inventory?

 

[MeganShannon11]

Can you link to them?

Are the stones actual ACA's, or virtual inventory?

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I'm in touch with them trying to find that out. They aren't ACAs and they aren't certified. I don't think I have a huge issue with that at 1/2 carat each, but I really just want to find out what the cut is like.

 

[WindyCitySparkle]

I have them in 0.25 ctw. Would it be helpful to see pics of those? I can put them next to my new 1.4 ctw ACAs.

 

[MeganShannon11]

I have them in 0.25 ctw. Would it be helpful to see pics of those? I can put them next to my new 1.4 ctw ACAs.

Yes, very helpful! I’m also curious how you would personally compare them.

 

[daisygrl]

Four-Prong Diamond Basket Earrings--Ready Set To Go | 1353

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I'm in touch with them trying to find that out. They aren't ACAs and they aren't certified. I don't think I have a huge issue with that at 1/2 carat each, but I really just want to find out what the cut is like.

Can you clarify? What do you mean by "they aren't certified?" If they are sold by WF, they are certified. They might not be ACA but they have at least GIA report.

 

[munchee]

Can you clarify? What do you mean by "they aren't certified?" If they are sold by WF, they are certified. They might not be ACA but they have at least GIA report.

their preset isn’t certified

 

[MeganShannon11]

This is from Becca at WF on the pre-set studs:

Our pre-selected options are non-certified diamonds that were hand selected by our diamond team to give nice, even performance and help keep the price down for those who aren’t interested in upgrading their diamonds down the line. I personally haven’t seen any that weren’t eye clean to our standard. Since these are un-certified options they won’t come with our upgrade benefit.

 

[sledge]

Hey @Texas Leaguer can you provide some insight here? Would appreciate it a bunch.

 

[WindyCitySparkle]

Yes, very helpful! I’m also curious how you would personally compare them.

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Here’s a short video. I hope it works. I’ve enjoyed having the 0.25s for years (0.12 each). They are very sparkly and a nice, modest every day size. I may hand them down to my daughter at some point. Personally I don’t think I would pay for ACAs at that size. A matter of personal preference, but for me I would need to be at around .6 or greater ctw before it would be worth it.

 

[MeganShannon11]

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Here’s a short video. I hope it works. I’ve enjoyed having the 0.25s for years (0.12 each). They are very sparkly and a nice, modest every day size. I may hand them down to my daughter at some point. Personally I don’t think I would pay for ACAs at that size. A matter of personal preference, but for me I would need to be at around .6 or greater ctw before it would be worth it.

So helpful! Thanks so much. This is what I’m debating as I am looking at 1 ctw so .50ish each. If I don’t go with the pre-sets, I might look at individual Expert Selection stones.

 

[lala646]

@MeganShannon11 I have a pair of the pre-sets in 0.66ctw that I bought pre-loved from another PS-er, and I LOVE them. I'll try to get a photo later if I can. They're super white and absolutely eye clean. If upgrading and "Super Ideal" aren't a primary driver for you, I think they're a solid option.

 

[WindyCitySparkle]

So helpful! Thanks so much. This is what I’m debating as I am looking at 1 ctw so .50ish each. If I don’t go with the pre-sets, I might look at individual Expert Selection stones.

You can really see the difference in color - the presets are probably H whereas the ACAs are K in yellow gold.

 

[MeganShannon11]

@MeganShannon11 I have a pair of the pre-sets in 0.66ctw that I bought pre-loved from another PS-er, and I LOVE them. I'll try to get a photo later if I can. They're super white and absolutely eye clean. If upgrading and "Super Ideal" aren't a primary driver for you, I think they're a solid option.

Thanks so much for the info!

 

[MeganShannon11]

You can really see the difference in color - the presets are probably H whereas the ACAs are K in yellow gold.

Yeah. I was hoping to stay at an H or I for color, so those fit with that too.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

At 1ctw and up, I'd definitely choose ACAs. They won't cost that much more than expert selection. In fact, I have pairs of ACA studs smaller than that to give my girls later on.

 

[Dancing Fire]

I bought 2 pairs of .50ctw (H/I SI1?) for my daughters. They are nice stones for the money but not in the same league as their ACA.

 

[MeganShannon11]

At 1ctw and up, I'd definitely choose ACAs. They won't cost that much more than expert selection. In fact, I have pairs of ACA studs smaller than that to give my girls later on.

It looks like I would have to settle for about .80 ctw versus 1 ctw to do that, so just debating if it’s worth it in smaller stones...

 

[Lookinagain]

It looks like I would have to settle for about .80 ctw versus 1 ctw to do that, so just debating if it’s worth it in smaller stones...

It would be for me because even though you may think you won’t upgrade, you may surprise yourself! What color ACAs at you looking at? If H/I check out J color. The cut may make up for the drop in color.

 

[daisygrl]

It looks like I would have to settle for about .80 ctw versus 1 ctw to do that, so just debating if it’s worth it in smaller stones...

Have you looked at their Expert Selection or Premium Select? A bit cheaper than ACA but still eligible for a trade-up. Diamond shrinkage is real and you might want to upgrade in the future, otherwise you would be stuck with the .80ctw (especially if you already doubting the .80ctw size).

 

[MeganShannon11]

Have you looked at their Expert Selection or Premium Select? A bit cheaper than ACA but still eligible for a trade-up. Diamond shrinkage is real and you might want to upgrade in the future, otherwise you would be stuck with the .80ctw (especially if you already doubting the .80ctw size).

I am definitely very interested in the Expert Selection, but there just aren’t many in the .40-.50 size range. Not sure I know how Premium Select compares? I think 1 ctw is pretty perfect for me. I feel like .80 tcw might feel small.

 

[lulu_ma]

Wow-looks like a lot of ACA diamonds I/J .40 range got snapped up this past weekend! Is Rose Gold still your top choice for metal?

Here’s a .423 ct versus a .503 for comparison. While the J VS1 ACA is (4.80 x 4.82 x 2.97) is $921, the .503 ct J VS2 ACA (5.07 x 5.12 x 3.13) is $1396.

I put the dims in the diamond database so you have a side by side view. While I can see a slight difference, it doesn’t seem like the .503 ct is worth a 52% up charge.

If you like the .423 ct, would you consider buying it and waiting for a match to come in? The beauty of Whiteflash seems to be the upgrade policy. Seems like buying in the .42 ish range will get to beautiful earrings that you can easily upgrade in the future...

(Full disclosure-I don’t currently own any super ideal diamonds, but for my next project I would like to build my own 5 stone ring with .40 carat ACAs)

 

[MeganShannon11]

Wow-looks like a lot of ACA diamonds I/J .40 range got snapped up this past weekend! Is Rose Gold still your top choice for metal?

Here’s a .423 ct versus a .503 for comparison. While the J VS1 ACA is (4.80 x 4.82 x 2.97) is $921, the .503 ct J VS2 ACA (5.07 x 5.12 x 3.13) is $1396.

I put the dims in the diamond database so you have a side by side view. While I can see a slight difference, it doesn’t seem like the .503 ct is worth a 52% up charge.

If you like the .423 ct, would you consider buying it and waiting for a match to come in? The beauty of Whiteflash seems to be the upgrade policy. Seems like buying in the .42 ish range will get to beautiful earrings that you can easily upgrade in the future...

(Full disclosure-I don’t currently own any super ideal diamonds, but for my next project I would like to build my own 5 stone ring with .40 carat ACAs)

Thanks so much for doing that! No, I’m looking to set them in a white metal: probably platinum. I’m not so sure about a J. Was thinking more along the lines of H/I. But, can you buy one if you see one in your range and have them hold it?

 

[lulu_ma]

Thanks so much for doing that! No, I’m looking to set them in a white metal: probably platinum. I’m not so sure about a J. Was thinking more along the lines of H/I. But, can you buy one if you see one in your range and have them hold it?

I’m not really certain what their process is. Others will know that better.

But take a look at the J I posted versus an ACA I in the same carat range. When I look at the videos they look very comparable color wise. I just love the idea of ACA or Expert Select bc you can upgrade easily.

Diamond | 0.445 ct I SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4361894

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.445 carat I color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4361894

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Diamond | 0.423 ct J VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4361893

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 0.423 carat J color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4361893

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[Jax172]

I didn’t have Whiteflash stones but I had BGD so essentially in the same league. They were 0.80 ctw K VS stones. I think you could definitely go down to a J/K in super ideal stones and be totally happy with them. I will be honest and say the reason I’m upgrading them is the size. I purchased some Lightbox 1.0 ctw earrings recently and I knew I would not wear the 0.80’s again. The size doesn’t seem that significant on paper but it did seem like a big difference to me on the ear. But with Whiteflash you could get 0.80 now and upgrade later to 1 ctw. I definitely still think a well cut stone trumps size.

 

[MissGotRocks]

I would definitely consider smaller diamonds in order to be eligible for the upgrade policy. Over time you may find yourself wanting larger and their upgrade policy makes it super easy. The other plus is the cut quality of the diamonds - beautiful sparkle bombs!

 

[Rhd3]

I have .75 tcw preset studs by Whiteflash. I don't typically experience DSS but have with studs! The presets are beautiful but I do regret not getting ACAs for the upgrade policy. Eventually, I'll get ACA studs and reset the presets into dangle earrings but would go with ACAs if I could go back in time.

 

[Texas Leaguer]

Hey @Texas Leaguer can you provide some insight here? Would appreciate it a bunch.

@sledge,
Thank you for pointing me to this thread. Upon reviewing our stud listings we did discover an error. The color and clarity are listed in the title (H-I Si), and are supposed to also appear in the jewelry details table lower on the page. In the case of the 4 prong style that info is missing. We are fixing that as we speak.

We also have the option of designating a cut quality level in the details section and would be interested to hear what the community thinks. In the past we have described cut quality, but in ways that have led to some confusion.

So here's an overall description of our pre-set studs. They are gemologically H-I Si, and with nice cut quality. (Since we are known for cut quality we have to be fussy about this aspect, but they are not held to the same technical standard as our in-house certified diamonds). We inspect them for color and clarity and for brightness and viusal match. They are really nice commercial quality diamonds - not the quality offered by low price leaders. Becca's description cited above is a pretty good one.

So here's the question: If we added a field to the jewelry details section indicating "Cut Quality - Very Good" would this be helpful? Would it be fair and not confusing?

 

[AllAboardTheBlingTrain]

@sledge,
Thank you for pointing me to this thread. Upon reviewing our stud listings we did discover an error. The color and clarity are listed in the title (H-I Si), and are supposed to also appear in the jewelry details table lower on the page. In the case of the 4 prong style that info is missing. We are fixing that as we speak.

We also have the option of designating a cut quality level in the details section and would be interested to hear what the community thinks. In the past we have described cut quality, but in ways that have led to some confusion.

So here's an overall description of our pre-set studs. They are gemologically H-I Si, and with nice cut quality. (Since we are known for cut quality we have to be fussy about this aspect, but they are not held to the same technical standard as our in-house certified diamonds). We inspect them for color and clarity and for brightness and viusal match. They are really nice commercial quality diamonds - not the quality offered by low price leaders. Becca's description cited above is a pretty good one.

So here's the question: If we added a field to the jewelry details section indicating "Cut Quality - Very Good" would this be helpful? Would it be fair and not confusing?

For me, reading “cut quality - very good” would indicate that you believe the stones would get a GIA “Very Good” rating if graded. I’m not sure if that’s what you want to indicate, or if you mean “very good” by WF’s (rather higher) standards.

 

[sledge]

Wow, if there were ever 2 stones destined to be a pair of earrings, look at these 0.502 & 0.503 J-VS2's. Size is nearly identical, but cut proportions are basically a mirror image.

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I know J is a little lower in color than you expected or wanted but right now it seems in the 0.40-0.60 range there isn't a bunch of well matched H/I ACA/ES/PS stones in-stock.

I did see some H's I threw into the comparison that may work, but it takes your total carat weight down to 0.85 instead of 1+ carats. I wish there was some H/I in an SI1 clarity as I think that is your sweet spot for size, clarity & dollars.

That said, let's talk about the J's a bit more. First off, price. There is about a $500 premium to jump to them. That's about a 22% increase in price, so the percentage sounds scary but IMO the overall dollar increase is pretty minimal in the big scheme of life.

J-VS2 ACA's = $1,390 + $1,355 = $2,745 wire



The advantage is you get some killer stones to wear now in the size you want and an OPTION to upgrade when inventory replenishes. Or maybe an option to go bigger when budget and/or desires change. With the non-certified stones, you are stuck unless you can find someone to buy them and then you will take more than a 22% loss from retail price. Nothing against the product, it's just the way the pre-loved market works.

And there is a possibility the color might surprise you. Many people are thrilled with their lower colored super ideal stones because they are so well cut they have edge to edge light return which makes the stone appear more bright (and white) overall.

I think they are worth a look at the least. Perhaps have WF send you two stones they would set in the earrings that are non-certified. And then also these 2 J-VS2 ACA's. Test them out in your home. See how the color, sparkle, etc works out. If you are thrilled with the non-certified stones, then send all 4 back and instruct WF to mount the non-certified. If you see a noticeable difference with the ACA's have those mounted instead and have the reassurance of knowing you spent the increased money wisely.

Just my 2 cents anyhow.