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Autumnovember|1304093384|2908005 said:Im confused again. How come Princess Diana became Princess Diana then and Kate isn't? They both married into the family?
Zoe|1304093455|2908007 said:AN -- I heard or read somewhere that Victoria Beckham is really self-conscious about her smile (or is it her teeth?), which is why she doesn't smile too often.
I don't think Kate will ever become queen because she's only in the royal family by marriage. Queen Elizabeth's husband is Prince Philip, not king, because he's not of royal lineage. I think that's how it works.
Here's a random tidbit I heard earlier: If Kate and William have a baby boy someday, he'll become next in line after William to be king. Harry won't be in the running, so to speak.
Zoe|1304093455|2908007 said:I don't think Kate will ever become queen because she's only in the royal family by marriage. Queen Elizabeth's husband is Prince Philip, not king, because he's not of royal lineage. I think that's how it works.
mayerling|1304096628|2908043 said:An explanation on why Diana was a princess and whether Kate will be queen:
Diana was the Princess of Wales because she married the Prince of Wales, just like Kate is a duchess because she married a duke. Diana being a princess had nothing to do with her being a princess already. In fact, she wasn't; she was just Lady Diana because her father was the Earl of Spencer.
Kate will be queen. It doesn't matter that she isn't of royal blood. Once Prince William accedes to the throne, he will be king and she will be queen. Prince Phillip is not King (not because he's not of royal blood - he is, he comes from the royal family of Greece), but because the title of King cannot be gained after marriage. This means that when the king marries his wife becomes queen, but when a queen marries her husband does not become king.
janinegirly|1304098872|2908077 said:A woman who marries a King becomes Queen. A man who marries a Queen will not be King b/c King is higher than Queen and obviously that can't be. I have no idea how they (the Queen) determines which title should be used (Prince vs Countess vs Duchess) but they can have multiple titles and Kate's title is determined by whatever William's is. So she is Duchess of Cambridge and Princess William of Wales. It is a good question why Diana was Princess of Wales rather than Prince Charles of Wales...not clear on that one. She wasn't royalty but she was aristocracy ('Lady").
mayerling|1304096628|2908043 said:An explanation on why Diana was a princess and whether Kate will be queen:
Diana was the Princess of Wales because she married the Prince of Wales, just like Kate is a duchess because she married a duke. Diana being a princess had nothing to do with her being a princess already. In fact, she wasn't; she was just Lady Diana because her father was the Earl of Spencer.
Kate will be queen. It doesn't matter that she isn't of royal blood. Once Prince William accedes to the throne, he will be king and she will be queen. Prince Phillip is not King (not because he's not of royal blood - he is, he comes from the royal family of Greece), but because the title of King cannot be gained after marriage. This means that when the king marries his wife becomes queen, but when a queen marries her husband does not become king.
tyty333|1304102969|2908128 said:mayerling|1304096628|2908043 said:An explanation on why Diana was a princess and whether Kate will be queen:
Diana was the Princess of Wales because she married the Prince of Wales, just like Kate is a duchess because she married a duke. Diana being a princess had nothing to do with her being a princess already. In fact, she wasn't; she was just Lady Diana because her father was the Earl of Spencer.
Kate will be queen. It doesn't matter that she isn't of royal blood. Once Prince William accedes to the throne, he will be king and she will be queen. Prince Phillip is not King (not because he's not of royal blood - he is, he comes from the royal family of Greece), but because the title of King cannot be gained after marriage. This means that when the king marries his wife becomes queen, but when a queen marries her husband does not become king.
I thought I understood all this stuff but...I guess not. So...why is Willam a Prince since he is not a Prince of somewhere?
Shouldnt he only be a Duke (until his father dies) if I follow the logic. When William and Kate have kids will they be little
dukes and duchesses? I'm thinking they'll probably be prince and princesses...but how if they are not Prince of anywhere
and there Dad is not a prince of anywhere?
I'm missing something in the big picture.
tyty333|1304102969|2908128 said:mayerling|1304096628|2908043 said:An explanation on why Diana was a princess and whether Kate will be queen:
Diana was the Princess of Wales because she married the Prince of Wales, just like Kate is a duchess because she married a duke. Diana being a princess had nothing to do with her being a princess already. In fact, she wasn't; she was just Lady Diana because her father was the Earl of Spencer.
Kate will be queen. It doesn't matter that she isn't of royal blood. Once Prince William accedes to the throne, he will be king and she will be queen. Prince Phillip is not King (not because he's not of royal blood - he is, he comes from the royal family of Greece), but because the title of King cannot be gained after marriage. This means that when the king marries his wife becomes queen, but when a queen marries her husband does not become king.
I thought I understood all this stuff but...I guess not. So...why is Willam a Prince since he is not a Prince of somewhere?
Shouldnt he only be a Duke (until his father dies) if I follow the logic. When William and Kate have kids will they be little
dukes and duchesses? I'm thinking they'll probably be prince and princesses...but how if they are not Prince of anywhere
and there Dad is not a prince of anywhere?
I'm missing something in the big picture.
NewEnglandLady|1304103936|2908143 said:In regards to Pippa in white, I think I read that in British culture the bridesmaids wear the same color as the bride.
I read years ago that the purpose of the bridesmaid is to confuse evil spirits (I think?) so that they don't know which woman is the bride. If that is the case, then traditionally-speaking, bridesmaids should wear the same color as the bride.
kenny|1304103738|2908139 said:This is my favorite wedding shot.
Actually it's a screen capture I took when I paused a BBC video.
I love how this camera operator was smart enough to NOT look where the action is.
It really tells the story.
Hudson_Hawk|1304104515|2908151 said:NewEnglandLady|1304103936|2908143 said:In regards to Pippa in white, I think I read that in British culture the bridesmaids wear the same color as the bride.
I read years ago that the purpose of the bridesmaid is to confuse evil spirits (I think?) so that they don't know which woman is the bride. If that is the case, then traditionally-speaking, bridesmaids should wear the same color as the bride.
Now it's just the chosen color of evil MILs!
diamondseeker2006|1304102002|2908120 said:The commentators I was listening to this morning said that she will likely be called Princess Catherine since her husband is called Prince William. I would think that is likely because I think she will be accepted as a princess because she actually acts and looks like one!
mayerling|1304103783|2908140 said:The male-line grandchildren of the monarch are styled Prince and Princess (except for Prince Edward's kids because he chose not to have them styled as such). These kids (basically William, Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie) are styled Prince FirstName of Place-father-is-a-prince-of.
AGBF|1304105889|2908161 said:Finally, there is the matter of whether she will be called, "Princess Catherine". I can guarantee that she will be, because people are ignorant. It grates on my ears and my nerves just as it always did to hear, "Princess Diana", but we may as well all get used to it!
AGBF|1304106460|2908167 said:mayerling|1304103783|2908140 said:The male-line grandchildren of the monarch are styled Prince and Princess (except for Prince Edward's kids because he chose not to have them styled as such). These kids (basically William, Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie) are styled Prince FirstName of Place-father-is-a-prince-of.
You are right that Edward's son and daughter are known as Viscount Severn and Lady Louise Windsor, but legally they remain TRH Prince James and Princess Louise of Wessex.
Deb/AGBF
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