Worth the extra 1500 bucks?

[flamingoezz]

I put one on hold. Just days before my custom ring is completed, I did a last search..is this worth the upgrade?

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2829739.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2812711.htm

 

[04diamond<3]

The .8 was sold...was that you? If not, Then I wouldn't recommend your second option because it's way too deep at 62.9%. Do you have to buy from there?

 

[flamingoezz]

yes..
the .824 is mine.

i had the ring made at WF, so yes. was just looking to see if there was a small jump in size i could make that is worthwhile. was hoping to spend more like $4500 than $5000+ but doesn't seem to be much available

 

[04diamond<3]

yes..
the .824 is mine.

i had the ring made at WF, so yes. was just looking to see if there was a small jump in size i could make that is worthwhile. was hoping to spend more like $4500 than $5000+ but doesn't seem to be much available

Then definitely the one you have. There isn't going to be much of a mm difference between what you got and the other option because the other is too deep so it faces up smaller than it should. So, you did well.

 

[bunnycat]

I put one on hold. Just days before my custom ring is completed, I did a last search..is this worth the upgrade?

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2829739.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2812711.htm

Interesting, have you called to discuss it with them? I admit the 62.9 depth is off-putting, but the Idealscope looks nice. A well cut .9 ought to be around 6.2mm or so, so that's a ding against it, as has been noted, but like I said, the idealscope looks nice. It does have the slightly shallower pavillion at 40.7 and a crown angle of 34.6, so maybe thats what helping it? It also scored 1.3 on the HCA tool.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

yes..
the .824 is mine.

i had the ring made at WF, so yes. was just looking to see if there was a small jump in size i could make that is worthwhile. was hoping to spend more like $4500 than $5000+ but doesn't seem to be much available

The .824 looks really nice. You made a good choice with that one. The table size on that is better, too, IMO.

 

[flamingoezz]

..and this one? i'm going to STOP looking after this..ha

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2829738.htm

 

[bunnycat]

..and this one? i'm going to STOP looking after this..ha

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2829738.htm

glutton for punishment, eh?

I think from the IS image, it looks like it could be about the same performance-wise, but you could ask them for a comparison.

Size-wise, most people here are probably going to say don't bother, it's only .2mm, which is a little under 10% increase in surface area. The issue I think becomes "mind clean" regarding size. The first one is a .8ish stone, this one hops over .9 and towards .93 and starts to mentally "feel" like a carat, I think.

On the other hand, I think Whiteflash has a nice upgrade policy and so as long as the setting can accept a larger stone later on, you could arguably wait a while and upgrade the stone later to something larger for an anniversary or something.

 

[04diamond<3]

..and this one? i'm going to STOP looking after this..ha

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2829738.htm

If you're going to keep looking:

This one is a noticeable size difference and scored a 1.4 on the HCA
http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.05-carat-H-color-VS2-clarity-sku-195434

this one's also a bigger one and scored a 1.3 on the HCA and has a unique brown/pink/purple tint (from a side view):

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.09-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-71311

You could put these on hold and request idealscope images, although I'm sure they'd look stunning. JA offers a discount to PS members and personally, if you keep wanting something bigger, then I'd go this route.

 

[Christina...]

If WF is also designing your ring then I would also stick with them for the stone. It's less stress and complication having the stone and setting both in the same house. You would also have to insure the stone before setting because WF will not insure a stone purchased from an outside vendor, so if something untoward were to happen during the setting the process, you would end up with the damaged diamond and no recourse!

 

[flamingoezz]

thats my sentiment exactly.

i think mental comfort is what im reaching for. paying 1500 more while downgrading color just to add a fraction of a mm seems to make little sense, but im not a pro. i really want it to be perfect which is the only reason im still entertaining it.

she is a small size (5.5) and the ring is pretty thin (2mm) so i think that works for me with making the .824 look sizeable. any thoughts on if its worth the jump in price given those factors?

..and this one? i'm going to STOP looking after this..ha

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2829738.htm

glutton for punishment, eh?

I think from the IS image, it looks like it could be about the same performance-wise, but you could ask them for a comparison.

Size-wise, most people here are probably going to say don't bother, it's only .2mm, which is a little under 10% increase in surface area. The issue I think becomes "mind clean" regarding size. The first one is a .8ish stone, this one hops over .9 and towards .93 and starts to mentally "feel" like a carat, I think.

On the other hand, I think Whiteflash has a nice upgrade policy and so as long as the setting can accept a larger stone later on, you could arguably wait a while and upgrade the stone later to something larger for an anniversary or something.

 

[Roxy]

thats my sentiment exactly.

i think mental comfort is what im reaching for. paying 1500 more while downgrading color just to add a fraction of a mm seems to make little sense, but im not a pro. i really want it to be perfect which is the only reason im still entertaining it.

she is a small size (5.5) and the ring is pretty thin (2mm) so i think that works for me with making the .824 look sizeable. any thoughts on if its worth the jump in price given those factors?

..and this one? i'm going to STOP looking after this..ha

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2829738.htm

glutton for punishment, eh?

I think from the IS image, it looks like it could be about the same performance-wise, but you could ask them for a comparison.

Size-wise, most people here are probably going to say don't bother, it's only .2mm, which is a little under 10% increase in surface area. The issue I think becomes "mind clean" regarding size. The first one is a .8ish stone, this one hops over .9 and towards .93 and starts to mentally "feel" like a carat, I think.

On the other hand, I think Whiteflash has a nice upgrade policy and so as long as the setting can accept a larger stone later on, you could arguably wait a while and upgrade the stone later to something larger for an anniversary or something.

She's going to love either of these ... they're both beautiful. That said, since you want this to be "perfect", I agree with Bastetcat's comments about .93 being closer to a carat. There's just "something" about a carat (or being "just under ..."), so I definitely think it's worth the extra $1500.

Go for it! The ring is going to be AMAZING when it's done!!

 

[bunnycat]

That's a toughie...so I had to ask Hubby his opinion (because I have pondered much of what you ask myself).

The first thing to do is take a step back and look at the logic behind this. So, the first thing to think about is talking to WF and finding out what the current and potential options are in terms of stone sizes that will fit in your setting. Second, is assess your financial situation and ask yourself how much of a strain it would be to go bigger, if at all. Third, is ask yourself how much you think SHE will prefer one or the other or just not care one way or the other on the size, or of you feel she may not ever want an upgrade. (And here is where hubs said to me "...be sure to give him a heads up that what looks the right size NOW may not later." )


So, If the setting will accommodate more than just something close to the current stone size, and given that diamond prices will tend to increase, and given that WF continues to have a great upgrade policy, and also that it wouldn't be a financial strain on you to park your money (as hubs says) on the larger stone, then there doesn't seem to be a reason NOT to consider going a little bigger now to get to your "comfort" zone. It can certainly be done later too, if things don't line up for it now, as long as you have made sure the setting can take a larger stone in advance. It's not a halo is it? There's only so much leeway in those....

 

[flamingoezz]

no, it is not a halo.

i asked WF about the stone last night and they said performance was comparable, but it was probably not worth the upgrade being as it would add the width of a single human hair to the diamond. that seemed to cement things in my mind..but coming back here, im now entertaining it again.

my GF would not upgrade her stone -- she is too sentimental. as far as the ring, she doesn't really care about such things -- she said she doesn't even need a diamond. she just wants a ring. so i don't think the size would matter to her either. from a financial perspective, i paid half up front and put the other 50% on an interest free credit card, so i have a year to pay it off. tacking on the extra 1500, its still possible to pay in a year, though it would probably be month 11 or 12.

ill message the person handling my ring project. .15mm may be too much of a difference without alterations to the ring, and that would squash the idea right there. is there any illustrations that would show two stone with similar gap in size next to eachother so I could see the physical difference?

That's a toughie...so I had to ask Hubby his opinion (because I have pondered much of what you ask myself).

The first thing to do is take a step back and look at the logic behind this. So, the first thing to think about is talking to WF and finding out what the current and potential options are in terms of stone sizes that will fit in your setting. Second, is assess your financial situation and ask yourself how much of a strain it would be to go bigger, if at all. Third, is ask yourself how much you think SHE will prefer one or the other or just not care one way or the other on the size, or of you feel she may not ever want an upgrade. (And here is where hubs said to me "...be sure to give him a heads up that what looks the right size NOW may not later." )


So, If the setting will accommodate more than just something close to the current stone size, and given that diamond prices will tend to increase, and given that WF continues to have a great upgrade policy, and also that it wouldn't be a financial strain on you to park your money (as hubs says) on the larger stone, then there doesn't seem to be a reason NOT to consider going a little bigger now to get to your "comfort" zone. It can certainly be done later too, if things don't line up for it now, as long as you have made sure the setting can take a larger stone in advance. It's not a halo is it? There's only so much leeway in those....

 

[vickygigi]

With everything you are saying about your girlfriend and her priorities, I would stay with your original diamond. Maybe down the road, you can get her a wrap with some side stones to bump up the carat weight if that becomes important. It seems the .8 stone is just perfect for her now. Congrats and good luck!

 

[bunnycat]

With everything you are saying about your girlfriend and her priorities, I would stay with your original diamond. Maybe down the road, you can get her a wrap with some side stones to bump up the carat weight if that becomes important. It seems the .8 stone is just perfect for her now. Congrats and good luck!

I think GF is Jewish and so wedding bands have to be plain, if I am remembering the original conversation now. Don't know how adding a wrap or blingy bands fits in with that in terms of social tradition. If this is going to be her main bling for a LONG time with no extras, I say he warranted feeling like he has to reach a certain comfort zone the first (and possibly only) time. Who knows what the fututre brings though. She may feel that way now, but 5-10 years from now, as she gets older she may have other ideas.

I looked at the CAD thread and it seems like a fairly standard basket setting that should allow SOME changing of stone size. I'll try to post a pic of different stone size comparisons here for you so maybe you can make a decision and lay this to rest because it IS mostly a mental thing with the slight change in size.

 

[bunnycat]

Ok- here's the best I could come up with. I took pics of all the white stones I had. In order from largest to smallest they are 6.67x6.77, about 6.25-6.3, 5mm, 4mm, 3.75mm....



and a 6mm orange stone beside the previously mention 6.25-6.3mm white stone (my slide caliper is not the most accurate thing). This is more like what the difference is you will get. I actually see it in person, but don't think it shows up well in the photo, but I am sensitive to size changes like some people are sensitive to clarity or color....