2ct Blue Sapphire

[lin_ny]

Hi everyone!

Just received this stone in the mail today.

I was originally looking/hoping for a medium-dark, strongly-saturated cushion for the centre stone for my engagement ring. I'm not exactly sure this one fits the bill... but I'd like to get your opinions on it. This stone actually looks more saturated in these pictures than it does it real life. It looked most appealing to me under the halogens in my bathroom (where it was darkest with some violet hues). I also didn't find it very sparkly... I mean, it's clear and pretty but I think it lacks a bit of 'wow' factor! I wonder if maybe that has to do with the cut?

It seems like a good size but I think I'd like more saturation. It's generally quite a lightish-medium blue in most lighting situations. They classified it as medium-dark when I asked... so this is where I start to get confused. It also has this annoying stripe splitting the stone in two - one lighter side and one darker - which looks like colour-zoning to me. Is this a relatively common and accepted thing with coloured stones?

As far as my boyfriend's opinion on it - after getting a closer look at it, he said frankly, "this isn't the one."

Sooo, thoughts/opinions?

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direct sunlight

 

[GliderPoss]

I'll let the others chime in on the technical stuff but I agree - whilst pretty it's just not knock-out beautiful or sparkley.

 

[chrono]

This stone is definitely not it. It looks a medium light and is also not saturated enough. I'll have to power up the laptop tomorrow to get a closer look at the cut. From what I can see at the moment, the cut is causing a bowtie in the sapphire. This is a cut issue, not a material issue so it isn't colour zoning. Strangely enough, I see a little green in it too but that might just be your camera.

 

[chrono]

I'm back on a good monitor and see no green but it doesn't make the stone look any better. This stone is definitely not IT. The colour saturation just isn't there and it has cut issues ranging from a horrible large tilt window at the slightest angle and some extinction outdoors (which I might forgive if the colour is great). I would send that stone back right away. Sorry it didn't work out for you.

 

[Lovinggems]

Is this the sapphire that you mentioned in another thread? If it is it looks nothing like the vendor photo. I see a window in some photos, the colour looks desaturated.

 

[movie zombie]

i'm with your boyfriend. the stone isn't singing to me for the reasons Chrono mentioned.

 

[lin_ny]

I feel a bit misled about the tone and saturation of the stone. I made sure to communicate what I was looking for before I bought it... unfortunately they didn't mention that this doesn't really fit my criteria. If I had a better description of the stone prior, I wouldn't be wasting over $100 in shipping costs. I'm just pretty disappointed overall. I'm okay that this isn't the stone but feeling misled really sucks! Lesson learned I suppose.

 

[JewelFreak]

I'm sorry it wasn't The One & cost you too. Chrono's points are right on & you picked up most of them yourself. Did you get photos of the stone before they sent it? If not, it might help next time to ask for them in different lights & different positions, or even video if possible. At least you're not stuck with something that doesn't make you happy -- and you're better informed to make the right decision. Chin up & keep trying -- once you find the sapphire that sings your name, it will all feel worth it!

--- Laurie

 

[lin_ny]

I'm sorry it wasn't The One & cost you too. Chrono's points are right on & you picked up most of them yourself. Did you get photos of the stone before they sent it? If not, it might help next time to ask for them in different lights & different positions, or even video if possible. At least you're not stuck with something that doesn't make you happy -- and you're better informed to make the right decision. Chin up & keep trying -- once you find the sapphire that sings your name, it will all feel worth it!

--- Laurie

Unfortunately they don't send extra pics or video... otherwise I definitely would have checked those out before ordering!

That's why I tried to ask as many in-depth questions as I did. Obviously that didn't help me much.

Do you guys think it's worth it to e-mail them with my concerns about the discrepancy between how they described it and how it actually is? Or just ship it and forget about it. I can't help but feel bad about the $100.

 

[lin_ny]

Is this the sapphire that you mentioned in another thread? If it is it looks nothing like the vendor photo. I see a window in some photos, the colour looks desaturated.

I know right! Doesn't look 'medium-dark' with 'strong saturation' to me! I honestly don't even know how they took that photo with this stone.

Also keep in mind this stone is LESS saturated in person than it is in these photos, too. Total disappointment.

 

[lin_ny]

I'll let the others chime in on the technical stuff but I agree - whilst pretty it's just not knock-out beautiful or sparkley.

Nope. Not my knock-out. Oh well... my boyfriend said he doesn't want me to see 'the' stone anyway, and now that he's seen this one he knows exactly what I want. haha.

I'm back on a good monitor and see no green but it doesn't make the stone look any better. This stone is definitely not IT. The colour saturation just isn't there and it has cut issues ranging from a horrible large tilt window at the slightest angle and some extinction outdoors (which I might forgive if the colour is great). I would send that stone back right away. Sorry it didn't work out for you.

I feel so misled! Do I just need to ship it back and forget about it or is it worth pursuing? I feel like I need to HEAVILY rely on their descriptions in order to buy a stone because they won't do alternate pics or videos... but how can I rely on that when it's not an accurate description? I just totally and completely trusted what they were telling me which is the only reason I bought it. I feel like such a newbie. This is tough. haha.

i'm with your boyfriend. the stone isn't singing to me for the reasons Chrono mentioned.

And I DEFINITELY need it to sing.

 

[chrono]

It's not this one, is it?

ETA
I would ship the stone back. You can inform the vendor that the stone is not a medium dark and also not as saturated as stated, or just say nothing at all. I guess this is a PS recommended vendor, if you can confirm the vendor's picture. He is doesn't take extra pictures or do videos. Another way when communicating with any vendor, is not only by description but also to include pictures of what you have in mind. As they say, picture tells more than what words can sometimes.

 

[lin_ny]

It's not this one, is it?

ETA
I would ship the stone back. You can inform the vendor that the stone is not a medium dark and also not as saturated as stated, or just say nothing at all. I guess this is a PS recommended vendor, if you can confirm the vendor's picture. He is doesn't take extra pictures or do videos. Another way when communicating with any vendor, is not only by description but also to include pictures of what you have in mind. As they say, picture tells more than what words can sometimes.

That's the one!

 

[chrono]

I have no idea what to say - other than seeing the similarity in cut, they look like two different stones! I've read many other PSer's experience describing that the stone looks just like the picture but yours obviously isn't.

His description: Well saturated medium violet blue.

He described it as medium dark to you? It's certainly not well saturated though. I would return the stone and look elsewhere. Again, I am sorry this has turned out to be a costlier experience than expected.

 

[lin_ny]

I have no idea what to say - other than seeing the similarity in cut, they look like two different stones! I've read many other PSer's experience describing that the stone looks just like the picture but yours obviously isn't.

His description: Well saturated medium violet blue.

He described it as medium dark to you? It's certainly not well saturated though. I would return the stone and look elsewhere. Again, I am sorry this has turned out to be a costlier experience than expected.

Laura and I conversed via email and she mentioned it was medium-dark with strong saturation. Needless to say, I'm frustrated. Better just inform them of my findings and ship it back asap.

Thanks for all the advice and support. Much appreciated.

 

[maebelle]

With Gemfix I think its important to check out the "pantone" colors they put in the listings. The pictures you have shown do look a lot like the "2727c" they list (it doesn't look like 2736 though!), but that's no excuse for the fact that Laura said it was "medium-dark" in an email.




Good luck in your search!

 

[lin_ny]

With Gemfix I think its important to check out the "pantone" colors they put in the listings. The pictures you have shown do look a lot like the "2727c" they list (it doesn't look like 2736 though!), but that's no excuse for the fact that Laura said it was "medium-dark" in an email.




Good luck in your search!

I googled the pantone colour when I first saw the stone... but then I found this on their website:

Color: Wherever possible, a similar Pantone Color Card number has been used, NOT the Pantone colors online, which necessarily use RGB approximations, and are not the same. "

So who knows. And you're right... it kinda resembles that one in pictures but it's indeed less saturated in person.

Thanks for the well wishes! I think I'm gonna leave this entire job to my boyfriend. Gem shopping is stressful business!!!

 

[iLander]

If you don't like it, return it, simple as that.

If it's cheap (under $500), I'd send it to Jerry at Gemart Services for a recut, but it's probably too expensive for that.

Was it cut by Andrew? It usually says so on his listings.

Gem shopping IS hard! I've purchased and returned about 25 stones to end up with the 5 that I have. But it's worth it in the end.

Keep trying!

 

[lin_ny]

If you don't like it, return it, simple as that.

If it's cheap (under $500), I'd send it to Jerry at Gemart Services for a recut, but it's probably too expensive for that.

Was it cut by Andrew? It usually says so on his listings.

Gem shopping IS hard! I've purchased and returned about 25 stones to end up with the 5 that I have. But it's worth it in the end.

Keep trying!

Not that cheap unfortunately... Not cut by Andrew. Sadly.

I know the right stone is out there for me. Just gotta encourage the bf to start shopping now (it could take him a year to find it... haha!!)

 

[emcee]

Oh lin_ny, I'm so sorry it didn't work out with this stone! I think you should definitely let Laura know that you aren't satisfied. The photo they posted online and her verbal description clearly doesn't match with the actual stone, so I think you deserve some kind of an explanation. Maybe they would even make it up to you by refunding some or all of the shipping costs. But either way, at least you'll get some kind of a resolution and you will be less hesitant to purchase online again (whether it's from them or another vendor). Good luck!

 

[movie zombie]

good grief! the difference between the vendor stone and your pictures, well, i can understand your disappointment!

 

[maebelle]

They finally relented and are starting to put handshots up on their website starting with their new gems! About time

 

[lin_ny]

Oh lin_ny, I'm so sorry it didn't work out with this stone! I think you should definitely let Laura know that you aren't satisfied. The photo they posted online and her verbal description clearly doesn't match with the actual stone, so I think you deserve some kind of an explanation. Maybe they would even make it up to you by refunding some or all of the shipping costs. But either way, at least you'll get some kind of a resolution and you will be less hesitant to purchase online again (whether it's from them or another vendor). Good luck!

Hopefully they'll cover the shipping... we'll see though. When I first mentioned maybe sharing some of the shipping burden she didn't really address it at all.

They told me that the stone matches their monitor perfectly. Somehow I'm not really believing that. Oh well.

 

[lin_ny]

They finally relented and are starting to put handshots up on their website starting with their new gems! About time

THEY ARE?!?!!? After I go though this whole experience?

(where are said hand shots?)

 

[JewelFreak]

I looked at their hand shots today & found them really helpful. Doesn't do you much good, Lin, and I'm sorry about that. In the hand shots it was easy to see that a few stones weren't as saturated as the listing photos showed them -- a great tool in future at least. I gotta give them credit for that.

--- Laurie

 

[ieatbugs]

Oh lin_ny, I'm so sorry it didn't work out with this stone! I think you should definitely let Laura know that you aren't satisfied. The photo they posted online and her verbal description clearly doesn't match with the actual stone, so I think you deserve some kind of an explanation. Maybe they would even make it up to you by refunding some or all of the shipping costs. But either way, at least you'll get some kind of a resolution and you will be less hesitant to purchase online again (whether it's from them or another vendor). Good luck!

Hopefully they'll cover the shipping... we'll see though. When I first mentioned maybe sharing some of the shipping burden she didn't really address it at all.

They told me that the stone matches their monitor perfectly. Somehow I'm not really believing that. Oh well.

Hi,

I used photoshop to extract the color that made up the majority of each stone and then display a large rectangle of them next to each other.

The darkest tones on the stone on the right are not even visible in the stone on the left.



Maybe this can help illustrate your case. I think the photo was unquestionably misleading.

 

[lin_ny]

Oh lin_ny, I'm so sorry it didn't work out with this stone! I think you should definitely let Laura know that you aren't satisfied. The photo they posted online and her verbal description clearly doesn't match with the actual stone, so I think you deserve some kind of an explanation. Maybe they would even make it up to you by refunding some or all of the shipping costs. But either way, at least you'll get some kind of a resolution and you will be less hesitant to purchase online again (whether it's from them or another vendor). Good luck!

Hopefully they'll cover the shipping... we'll see though. When I first mentioned maybe sharing some of the shipping burden she didn't really address it at all.

They told me that the stone matches their monitor perfectly. Somehow I'm not really believing that. Oh well.

Hi,

I used photoshop to extract the color that made up the majority of each stone and then display a large rectangle of them next to each other.

The darkest tones on the stone on the right are not even visible in the stone on the left.



Maybe this can help illustrate your case. I think the photo was unquestionably misleading.

Wow. This is why I love PS... amazingly helpful people like you!!

I'll definitely send this to them. You rock. Thank you!!!

 

[ieatbugs]

Oh lin_ny, I'm so sorry it didn't work out with this stone! I think you should definitely let Laura know that you aren't satisfied. The photo they posted online and her verbal description clearly doesn't match with the actual stone, so I think you deserve some kind of an explanation. Maybe they would even make it up to you by refunding some or all of the shipping costs. But either way, at least you'll get some kind of a resolution and you will be less hesitant to purchase online again (whether it's from them or another vendor). Good luck!

Hopefully they'll cover the shipping... we'll see though. When I first mentioned maybe sharing some of the shipping burden she didn't really address it at all.

They told me that the stone matches their monitor perfectly. Somehow I'm not really believing that. Oh well.

Hi,

I used photoshop to extract the color that made up the majority of each stone and then display a large rectangle of them next to each other.

The darkest tones on the stone on the right are not even visible in the stone on the left.



Maybe this can help illustrate your case. I think the photo was unquestionably misleading.

Wow. This is why I love PS... amazingly helpful people like you!!

I'll definitely send this to them. You rock. Thank you!!!

You're welcome. Keep us posted on how it progresses!

 

[emcee]

They finally relented and are starting to put handshots up on their website starting with their new gems! About time

THEY ARE?!?!!? After I go though this whole experience?

(where are said hand shots?)

What?? Yeah, where are these hand shots? I would love to see them too.

On another note, that photo side-by-side comparison is so helpful! The colors clearly don't match up and I'd be curious to see how they respond to that.

By the way, a user in another thread from last week ([URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/seeking-advice-on-6x8-oval-unheated-blue-sapphire.178710/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/seeking-advice-on-6x8-oval-unheated-blue-sapphire.178710/[/URL]) had the same issue with their GemFix stone turning out to be much less saturated than the website's photos. They used to be more reliable than this, didn't they?

 

[lin_ny]

They finally relented and are starting to put handshots up on their website starting with their new gems! About time

THEY ARE?!?!!? After I go though this whole experience?

(where are said hand shots?)

What?? Yeah, where are these hand shots? I would love to see them too.

On another note, that photo side-by-side comparison is so helpful! The colors clearly don't match up and I'd be curious to see how they respond to that.

By the way, a user in another thread from last week ([URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/seeking-advice-on-6x8-oval-unheated-blue-sapphire.178710/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/seeking-advice-on-6x8-oval-unheated-blue-sapphire.178710/[/URL]) had the same issue with their GemFix stone turning out to be much less saturated than the website's photos. They used to be more reliable than this, didn't they?

My attitude now: ya win some, ya lose some. haha.