4.1ct LucYen red spinel...heavy pictures

[OTL]

It is a big size, and it has good color. But those inclusions are really visible. I can see them with arm distance from certain angle.

I bought this stone on ebay. It does not come with any certificate. I am not a gemlogist but the close up shot of the inclusions looks dirty, and natural to me.

I am still in 7days period so would love to hear your thoughts about this stone. Thanks a lot!

 

[OTL]

And close up shot

 

[minousbijoux]

The pictures make it look like it has a good deal of brown in it. Does it?

 

[OTL]

The pictures make it look like it has a good deal of brown in it. Does it?

emmm...This is awkward, but I can't see a brown color both IRL and in the pictures

 

[ChrisA222]

It doesn't look very saturated to me, but it could still be a nice deal depending on what it cost. Its not bad to me, and its huge, but its not that bright red color, ya know?

 

[AprilBaby]

I know nothing about spinel but its gorgeous with your skin tone and your rosé gold band!!!!

 

[marymm]

Well, on my monitor I see a russet color, not red... Of course, this doesn't mean your spinel isn't red, or doesn't look red to you, just pointing out that real-life color doesn't always translate correctly to photographs, and photos/colors viewed on one computer monitor may look different when displayed on another monitor.

 

[LD]

Leave aside the inclusions for a minute because in your hand shots (unless you know they're there) you don't see them and they can be disguised by a setting. Do YOU like/love it? If yes, then it's a keeper.

My only hesitation for you is that it is leaning very heavily to brown. As others have commented, this is not a red that I would go "whoa red!". The other thing to mention is that it does have some areas of extinction.

Having said that, it's a good size and a nice looking gem. If you don't see brown then that's fine - everybody sees colour differently and at the end of the day you're the one who will be wearing it.

 

[Kim Bruun]

I see a red with a brownish modifier as well. It's not an unttractive colour, but I would prefer a visually pure red, then a pinkish red, then a purplish red, and lastly, very slightly orangy red. The Burmese reds typically have one of these modifiers, but it is nevertheless interesting to see a Luc Yen red, though my preference would be the former, if the russet colour is typical of Luc Yen reds.

 

[OTL]

Alright, since every one can see a brownish color, I shoot some new pictures, and I can figure out a brownish modifier in the dark extinction area now. But only slightly..The color does not bother me though, I think it is as best as I can do for a red spinel, not the pinkish red, I have some already.

 

[LD]

If you don't want a pinkish red I can see how this is far more attractive for you. This is heavily towards an orangey/brownish red. If you look at the whole stone (in your latest pictures), do you see the orange? It's a pretty stone and a great size - does it close up somewhat when it's on your hand? I suspect it will and so will look darker once set. What are your plans for it?

 

[minousbijoux]

The other thing to mention is that it does have some areas of extinction.

Having said that, it's a good size and a nice looking gem. If you don't see brown then that's fine - everybody sees colour differently and at the end of the day you're the one who will be wearing it.

Good call, LD. I always go to color first, and then sometimes can't see beyond it. Honestly, I didn't even notice the extinction!

OTL, its as LD said - if you like it, great! You have a large reddish stone. Whether or not it has brown, if you like it, set it! It would look good in yellow gold (disclosure: I love yellow gold).

 

[innerkitten]

It's kind of a cinnamon red, not a stop light red but there is nothing wrong with that as long as the price is right. I like that color a lot and I think it looks very nice with that gold ring you have on. Yellow gold might be a good choice if you wind up keeping it and setting it

 

[OTL]

If you don't want a pinkish red I can see how this is far more attractive for you. This is heavily towards an orangey/brownish red. If you look at the whole stone (in your latest pictures), do you see the orange? It's a pretty stone and a great size - does it close up somewhat when it's on your hand? I suspect it will and so will look darker once set. What are your plans for it?

No it stays the same on hand or alone. And I do see a slight slight orange/brownish color you are all seeing. Maybe because I don't want a pinkish in it and people generally prefer that. But that is not what I was looking for when searching for a red spinel. There is nothing wrong with pinkish red, it is beautiful, but not what I want for now.

 

[OTL]

For example, I can see some pink color in this gorgeous red spinel..

 

[Rosebloom]

I know nothing about spinel but its gorgeous with your skin tone and your rosé gold band!!!!

I agree!

 

[OTL]

If set, this will probably cover the inclusions, but I will still know they are there

 

[VapidLapid]

the inclusions would bother me. the fracture, the spots that look like shattered impacts, more than the specks. Then the color is, if red, then brick red, which is to say brownish, which is fine if you like it but it makes it look like an almandine garnet.

 

[OTL]

can you see a orangish modifier in this color?

 

[minousbijoux]

OTL, what is your point, really? You asked for opinions and we provided them. The rest is up to you. It doesn't really matter how we see color does it? Its about how you see it.

 

[OTL]

the inclusions would bother me. the fracture, the spots that look like shattered impacts, more than the specks. Then the color is, if red, then brick red, which is to say brownish, which is fine if you like it but it makes it look like an almandine garnet.

Thanks for your input VL, I was mainly forcusing on the inclusions at first but turns out we are all talking about colors. but I couldn't agree this looks like an almandine garnet...

 

[OTL]

OTL, what is your point, really? You asked for opinions and we provided them. The rest is up to you. It doesn't really matter how we see color does it? Its about how you see it.

Not trying to make a point. Like I said I was focusing on the inclusions at first. But it is certainly interesting to see that others see the color differently and I was the only one. That makes me think whether I was wrong about seeing colors all this time It is unexpected

 

[VapidLapid]

can you see a orangish modifier in this color?

not sure I'd call it a modifier, it might even be the primary.

 

[OTL]

can you see a orangish modifier in this color?

not sure I'd call it a modifier, it might even be the primary.

Interesting...But I used the pure red color in photoshop...The color is called RGB red.

 

[minousbijoux]

can you see a orangish modifier in this color?

not sure I'd call it a modifier, it might even be the primary.

I would say orangish red and much, much more saturated than your stone.

 

[VapidLapid]

I downloaded one of your images and opened it in photoshop, where I have a better colorspace. Other than resizing the garnet I made no changes to the files. Remember that PS compresses photos and colors often look dreary when uploaded here.. I took a screenshot of the PS window and the photoshop window together with one of your almandine images. Dont know if this helps. As I said it is the inclusions that would bother me, the impacts on the side and the one that looks like a fracture.

 

[LD]

can you see a orangish modifier in this color?

not sure I'd call it a modifier, it might even be the primary.

Interesting...But I used the pure red color in photoshop...The color is called RGB red.

I think Vapid was referring to your photos of the stone not the colour you used from photoshop.

The thing is, and you mentioned it above, everybody is seeing brown and orange in your stone. When we have high hopes for a stone and it arrives, occasionally we all see a bit of love that others don't. That's absolutely fine. At the end of the day you have to decide if you love it and want it as part of your collection.

 

[OTL]

can you see a orangish modifier in this color?

not sure I'd call it a modifier, it might even be the primary.

I would say orangish red and much, much more saturated than your stone.

See this is why I get confused. I use the pure red color in Photoshop, but then you can see orangish in it. Not talking about saturation though, it is pure solid red color. Wouldn't be suprised it is more saturated than a natural stone.

 

[OTL]

can you see a orangish modifier in this color?

not sure I'd call it a modifier, it might even be the primary.

Interesting...But I used the pure red color in photoshop...The color is called RGB red.

I think Vapid was referring to your photos of the stone not the colour you used from photoshop.

The thing is, and you mentioned it above, everybody is seeing brown and orange in your stone. When we have high hopes for a stone and it arrives, occasionally we all see a bit of love that others don't. That's absolutely fine. At the end of the day you have to decide if you love it and want it as part of your collection.

I think VL is referring to the red color not stone if you see which posts is quoted.

Thanks for all your quick inputs though. I really appreciate it.

I have no problem about the color, just the inclusions making me hesitate.

 

[VapidLapid]

here is a screenshot of your swatch as it appears on ps, and downloaded in photoshop. My only point is that colors are changed somewhat when pics are uploaded to PS, so what we see may not match well with what you saw.