Antique emerald cut CVB June Cluster possibly in works

[petrock<3]

Caysie’s video of the stone

Stone arrived to Caysie so next she will ship it to me. What a process!! But I’m going to be out of town so can’t get it right away : (

 

[petrock<3]

Sneak peek of the ring! Still needs antiquing which will be done this week. Having Dahlia and clip antiqued as well. So right now I’m ringless and blingless haha but should be getting everything next week!
Caysie said the stone was so sparkly it was hard to get a good pic!

 

[petrock<3]

Coming today!!

 

[Inked]

OMG, it's soooo beautiful! post finger pics when it comes, and you said you were having your other rings antiques, so i want to see them all!!!!!

 

[vintageinjune]

Can't wait to see the hand shots of this little piece of magic!

 

[BrownGinger]

It’s beautiful!

 

[Antiana]

Your ring is such a beauty and I love how the emerald turned out! Please post hand shots when you get it!

Would you mind sharing how the overall experience was with cutting the stone? I'm currently trying to source a stone via DeBebians , however I'm not having much luck.

Since I was planning on a CVB setting anyway, why not have a stone cut by them as well?

Coming today!!

 

[petrock<3]

My phone case has bright colored flowers on it I should have taken it off before I took photos. But here she is! The craftsmanship is impeccable!

 

[petrock<3]

 

[Skymonkey2000]

That turned out amazing! Do you love it??? Gorgeous

 

[oldcutclubmember]

It’s beautiful! I love the high crown on the step cut and the setting compliments the stone so well!

 

[petrock<3]

So the setting is done perfectly, I love the setting very much. But I think independent of this stone. I thought the black bezel would be more noticeable but in real life not noticeable at all. I absolutely love the sharp prongs like 1000% but in movement the reflections and shadows of those points look like cracks in the stone to me. They interrupt the lines of the facets.

I thought I would see clear step facets but instead they blend together like step cut blur. Is that normal? The culet I think bothers me to see flesh color in the middle. And then maybe thats reflected around? There appear to be large windows maybe that’s an emerald cut thing but at certain angles it’s totally see through. So yeah. I’m hoping in a different setting and if they cut the culet I will feel differently about it.
I’ve been giving it time, and I don’t dislike the stone but was surprised by how it’s kind of see through and reflects a lot of the yellow gold. And like dizzying thin lines that blur rather than clear sharp facets. So instead of a bright white E it looks kind of blah warm a lot of the time. I like warm stones but this isn’t a warm stone. So anyway trying to figure out what my next move is. I love the setting I think I’m going to put my emerald by finewater into one like this. I think it will fit it better.
Any advice?

 

[vintageinjune]

My phone case has bright colored flowers on it I should have taken it off before I took photos. But here she is! The craftsmanship is impeccable!

I'm very thankful no one other than my poor birds (who I startled greatly, resulting in them flying all the way downstairs into the kitchen from the upstairs loft) witnessed the tea choking and wheezing that occurred when I saw this! The setting is exquisite. Just.... absolutely gorgeous.

So, that said.... I have been wondering how you felt about it since you've had it for a while and hadn't posted. The whole look does appear warm - like you said, not necessarily a bad thing, but since this is an icy white E, well.... wanting that to shine through makes sense. As does the dislike of the skin through the culet, along with the windowing at certain angles and the dizzying facet pattern due to the reflection of the prongs.

It is a bummer that the whole package doesn't thrill you, but more time won't change that. I do believe an emerald in that setting would be absolutely stunning.

Are you thinking of having the culet removed, or having another stone cut where there is no open culet?

 

[petrock<3]

I'm very thankful no one other than my poor birds (who I startled greatly, resulting in them flying all the way downstairs into the kitchen from the upstairs loft) witnessed the tea choking and wheezing that occurred when I saw this! The setting is exquisite. Just.... absolutely gorgeous.

So, that said.... I have been wondering how you felt about it since you've had it for a while and hadn't posted. The whole look does appear warm - like you said, not necessarily a bad thing, but since this is an icy white E, well.... wanting that to shine through makes sense. As does the dislike of the skin through the culet, along with the windowing at certain angles and the dizzying facet pattern due to the reflection of the prongs.

It is a bummer that the whole package doesn't thrill you, but more time won't change that. I do believe an emerald in that setting would be absolutely stunning.

Are you thinking of having the culet removed, or having another stone cut where there is no open culet?

I think my only option is to have the culet removed. Which Caysie said before wouldn’t be hard to do. I’m hoping that makes a difference, and have it set in platinum.

 

[vintageinjune]

I think my only option is to have the culet removed. Which Caysie said before wouldn’t be hard to do. I’m hoping that makes a difference, and have it set in platinum.

I'm glad removing the culet will be easy. Hopefully that fixes some things.

What setting are you thinking of for the re-do?

 

[petrock<3]

I'm glad removing the culet will be easy. Hopefully that fixes some things.

What setting are you thinking of for the re-do?

I think just a simple platinum setting until I know what to do. Thin double claw prongs or thin bezel. Unless I should consider something that hides windows.

Edit to add- I’m just hoping it’s the setting and culet and not a bigger problem with the diamond itself

 

[Rfisher]

I thought I would see clear step facets but instead they blend together like step cut blur. Is that normal? The culet I think bothers me to see flesh color in the middle. And then maybe thats reflected around? There appear to be large windows maybe that’s an emerald cut thing but at certain angles it’s totally see through. So yeah. I’m hoping in a different setting and if they cut the culet I will feel differently about it.
I’ve been giving it time, and I don’t dislike the stone but was surprised by how it’s kind of see through and reflects a lot of the yellow gold. And like dizzying thin lines that blur rather than clear sharp facets.

Beautiful ring and stone. I think I understand your hesitation on loving it though.

Before you think more about tweak the stone or even to reset it
Can you find a very similar cut stone that to what you have now that is unset (with or without the culet) to bring in and see in person?

I’m just thinking that whatever cost to see a loose one in person, may help your mind on deciding on a reset or culet tweak is the road to take, plus be less costly if not.

Eta: how close to your skin is the culet when it’s worn?
Maybe to see more linear step cuts to your eye - a modern emerald cut would be the way to go.

 

[lulu_ma]

Oh it's so beautiful, but it does seem like little things are bothering you.

I just have a regular F color emerald cut. After I reset it in 18k YG, I noticed that it no longer presents as icy white. But I had it set in platinum for two decades, so I was ready for a change. I did keep my platinum setting in case I ever decide to go back to white metal. I hope you find the perfect setting for your gorgeous stone.

 

[petrock<3]

Beautiful ring and stone. I think I understand your hesitation on loving it though.

Before you think more about tweak the stone or even to reset it
Can you find a very similar cut stone that to what you have now that is unset (with or without the culet) to bring in and see in person?

I’m just thinking that whatever cost to see a loose one in person, may help your mind on deciding on a reset or culet tweak is the road to take, plus be less costly if not.

Eta: how close to your skin is the culet when it’s worn?
Maybe to see more linear step cuts to your eye - a modern emerald cut would be the way to go.

It’s very close to my skin as it’s set very low and it’s all open in the bottom. With my puffy fingers could come very close to touching if not touching. Do you think that’s exacerbating the problem?
I don’t necessarily want to see long lines, I do like the antique style that’s more of an asscher square style. But I would like to see facets better, clear facets vs blurry glittery look that reminds me more of a radiant. Maybe it just appears that way because of the lack of contrast due to the culet? I don’t know.

But that’s good advice to try to look at other stones. Thank you . I will try to figure out how to swing it

 

[petrock<3]

Oh it's so beautiful, but it does seem like little things are bothering you.

I just have a regular F color emerald cut. After I reset it in 18k YG, I noticed that it no longer presents as icy white. But I had it set in platinum for two decades, so I was ready for a change. I did keep my platinum setting in case I ever decide to go back to white metal. I hope you find the perfect setting for your gorgeous stone.

I think my main problem is I’ve only ever had E color in platinum so that what I’m used to. But I love the look of gold better and my other pieces are gold. But I think for me platinum for diamonds is the way I have to go.

You have such beautiful pieces!! Thanks for your comment

 

[luckygreen317]

Although I not educated on anticipated light return for emerald cuts, I did want to share my experience with a similar bezel setting that is essentially closed around all sides. I had an excellent cut round diamond set very similar to yours. The metal color did visually reflect warmth into the stone. I ended up resetting it into a raised bezel so light could bounce around the stone. It made all the difference in my situation.

With that said, your ring is really beautiful. However, if you aren’t happy with it that is what is most important.

 

[Cerulean]

I think my main problem is I’ve only ever had E color in platinum so that what I’m used to. But I love the look of gold better and my other pieces are gold. But I think for me platinum for diamonds is the way I have to go.

You have such beautiful pieces!! Thanks for your comment

Have you ever thought about rhodium plating the inside of the basket/prongs?

Im not sure how tricky that is…but seems possible?

 

[petrock<3]

Have you ever thought about rhodium plating the inside of the basket/prongs?

Im not sure how tricky that is…but seems possible?

I did wonder that! I put tinfoil inside to see if it helped and I think it looked better. Also that blocked the culet. But I wonder if the yellow touching the border, holding the diamond is the biggest problem. Maybe stone has to come out. Anyway if culet gets closed has to come out anyway.

I also considered if I get the setting redone if it’s just a bezel no prongs, if the inside of the bezel is platinum and outside gold? I love the look of the gold outside. But maybe that’s too complicated I don’t know.

 

[Cerulean]

I did wonder that! I put tinfoil inside to see if it helped and I think it looked better. Also that blocked the culet. But I wonder if the yellow touching the border, holding the diamond is the biggest problem. Maybe stone has to come out. Anyway if culet gets closed has to come out anyway.

I also considered if I get the setting redone if it’s just a bezel no prongs, if the inside of the bezel is platinum and outside gold? I love the look of the gold outside. But maybe that’s too complicated I don’t know.

It might be worth asking Caysie! I also really like 2 tone settings, maybe she can cook up something…

 

[Inked]

Oh no!! I’ve been dying to hear your update and see more pictures ! I’m so sorry you don’t love it!! That’s so disappointing! I know what you mean you can tell it is absolutely stunning craftsmanship and like you said it looks good in a still picture but in movement it’s not what you were expecting.

I think it’s absolutely gorgeous - I love the prongs and the black antiquing but I do see what you mean in some pictures you don’t even see it at all. I’m a big fan of Armenta jewelry and they have a lot of black antiquing and it’s bold, this is more subtle but perhaps it’s because you don’t want the black reflecting into the diamond?

Maybe it’s some thing where you put a gemstone in the setting and just do a simple solitaire for the gorgeous diamond then you have the best of both!

 

[petrock<3]

Is the diamond supposed to be so see through like this? And you can see in the last photo the reflection or shadow of the prong breaks up the flashes so I think that’s adding to the stone not looking as bright as it could.

 

[petrock<3]

Oh no!! I’ve been dying to hear your update and see more pictures ! I’m so sorry you don’t love it!! That’s so disappointing! I know what you mean you can tell it is absolutely stunning craftsmanship and like you said it looks good in a still picture but in movement it’s not what you were expecting.

I think it’s absolutely gorgeous - I love the prongs and the black antiquing but I do see what you mean in some pictures you don’t even see it at all. I’m a big fan of Armenta jewelry and they have a lot of black antiquing and it’s bold, this is more subtle but perhaps it’s because you don’t want the black reflecting into the diamond?

Maybe it’s some thing where you put a gemstone in the setting and just do a simple solitaire for the gorgeous diamond then you have the best of both!

Yes! I’ve been trying to reconcile that I love the ring itself so much, the details and craftsmanship, but it’s not clicking with this stone. An emerald I think would be perfect.
I love Armenta too!

Yeah I think platinum for this diamond and gem for this setting is the way to go!

 

[petrock<3]

Tried to get some clear pics of the gold being bounced around.
2 questions:

What setting do you think will complement this stone

Will closing culet help contrast and brightness in the center

Thanks everyone so much for the help!!

@DejaWiz @Kim N @Karl_K

 

[Karl_K]

Tried to get some clear pics of the gold being bounced around.
2 questions:

What setting do you think will complement this stone

Will closing culet help contrast and brightness in the center

Thanks everyone so much for the help!!

The one its in is awesome and compliments the stone perfectly.
Not, because in order to do it the p3 angles have to be changed and they will likely become to shallow.

 

[petrock<3]

The one its in is awesome and compliments the stone perfectly.
Not, because in order to do it the p3 angles have to be changed and they will likely become to shallow.

Thank you Karl! Do you think there’s anything that can reduce the yellow I’m seeing, like rhodium plating the inside or anything like that? Thank you