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Antique purple pink diamond

Ercealan

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Hello all. Someone is selling a supposed purple diamond. I was curious and went to see it. The person said it has been in the family for generations. Person was positive it is a diamond, as this is the info their family members were told. Loose stone, said I can perform any test on it. The color in photos look like color of amethyst. The stone was an emerald cut. But I researched and the emerald cut has not changed mostly through time. This one from what I remember, had less facets than today's emerald cuts. Under loupe, very clean stone. No doubling of facets. Does not scratch with tungsten scriber. But weight seems s bit off. Measures 7.98 x 6.14 x 3.92 mm. Weighs 2ct.
 
"supposed" being the opportune word of the day!

If it truly WAS what they were saying it was [or what they believe it to be] it would be certified out the wazoo, because it would be a worth a fortune. I'm not buying anything they're saying. Everyone has access to the internet. Anyone can google "purple diamond" and see pricing and know, it would be through the roof. And even if they are asking xxxxx amount of dollars, there should be a bare minimum of GIA certification with it along with a laser inscribed serial number. This isn't just some random family piece you would sell at a flea market.

IMHO
 
By performing any test, will they send it to GIA or let you take it to an expert, no questions asked?

I wouldn't touch this with a ten-foot pole without a certification. This sounds like poppycock, I hate to be blunt.

If real, this diamond would be worth potentially millions depending on the level saturation.

Can you at least share photos? We may be able to tell instantly if it is not a diamond.
 
The seller would not allow a diamond like that to be viewed by random people.
It would be sold through channels that sell these sorts of things (diamond brokers, auction houses, whoever brokers these deals..etc.)
Unless you're a collector that has tens of millions, you and I wouldn't make the list to see it.

It might be a diamond, but it's not a natural, mined diamond.
 
I'd bet any of my jewelry that it's not a mined diamond (if a diamond at all). Purple CZ, purple lab spinel, purple glass, purple amethyst (natural, or lab), purple anything - other than mined diamond. I don't think I've ever seen a vivid purple lab diamond, either.
 
said I can perform any test on it.
Ask about performing the Send It To GIA test.

Zero chance this is a mined and untreated diamond.

Extremely slim chance it’s any sort of diamond at all.
 
jeez- and I get accused of being overly skeptical:)
You guys don't trust anyone!!
So many people I know have million dollar purple emerald cuts laying around.....
 
They might really believe it themselves. It seems like there are an alarming number of people around who believe they own things of stunningly high value. Like when they come on here for verification. Then when they're told otherwise, they think everyone is trying to trick them out of their amazing possession and throw a fit. I know, I know, it's mean to laugh.
 
They might really believe it themselves.

This.....
You have no idea as to the nature of some of the phone call/email inquiries people have........
We always talk them off the ledge gently ( for example, I've stopped using the term "you're bat$hit crazy if you believe it's a diamond")
 
Nope.
 
[True story]
When I was a little girl.. no older than 6 maybe. I was playing in the front yard and there was a sign out front of the neighbors house "yard sale". I ran inside, grabbed my piggy bank and went into the neighbors yard. I bought my mother a fur coat. I was so proud of myself!!! I went home with my treasure [fur coats come on wire hangers right? why not.. I was 6]. I ran into the house and I yelled MOM! I got you something! She looked at me like..where did you get this? My piggy bank was empty and I said "I bought you a fur coat". Now she knew..it wasn't a fur coat..my uncle knew..it wasn't a fur coat..but I sure thought it was..Good intentions they may be..but it doesn't mean the item is authentic.
 
Not in USA. Certifying said diamond would cost them money person does not have. Firstly travelling to US to have it mailed. Many people here saying, "no it can't be" because of color. Then proceed to try to educate me, not by any science, but because it just can't be. I am trying to find out what Stone tests to be a diamond on a diamond tester, does not scratch, is NOT a sapphire, with said weight and said measurements. I saw this stone at night in a cafe outside. I have yet to see it in the daytime. Unfortunately I am travelling and did not bring spectroscope or dichroscope. Also my UV light went dead. Did not take pictures because it was night and would be going to see it again.
 
Please excuse the lame humor attempts ( mine especially)

Look- anything is possible in this world...we've all seen that....the comments made are based on likelihoods....
Purple diamonds are incredibly rare....
 
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Genuine curiosity, has a vivid purple diamond the color of amethyst ever been found?
 
"supposed" being the opportune word of the day!

If it truly WAS what they were saying it was [or what they believe it to be] it would be certified out the wazoo, because it would be a worth a fortune. I'm not buying anything they're saying. Everyone has access to the internet. Anyone can google "purple diamond" and see pricing and know, it would be through the roof. And even if they are asking xxxxx amount of dollars, there should be a bare minimum of GIA certification with it along with a laser inscribed serial number. This isn't just some random family piece you would sell at a flea market.

IMHO

By performing any test, will they send it to GIA or let you take it to an expert, no questions asked?

I wouldn't touch this with a ten-foot pole without a certification. This sounds like poppycock, I hate to be blunt.

If real, this diamond would be worth potentially millions depending on the level saturation.

Can you at least share photos? We may be able to tell instantly if it is not a diamond.

The person doesn't live in USA. We don't know each other. This person needs the money. But I am not certain of it being a diamond. If I was certain, another story it would be.
 
The person doesn't live in USA. We don't know each other. This person needs the money. But I am not certain of it being a diamond. If I was certain, another story it would be.

If the person needs the money that is their problem, not yours. If you are paying money for a supposedly natural diamond, there's no way to guarantee it is real without a lab cert (unless it is obvious in pictures) although i am 99.9% certain it is not real

just google how much they cost and ask yourself if what they expect it is worth is commensurate

if this was real, they would not be selling it this way. they'd be dealing with a professional due to the sheer dollar amount involved

are you in the market for a multi-million dollar diamond?

unfortunately i believe you are getting scammed, whether they (or you) realize it or not
 
This.....
You have no idea as to the nature of some of the phone call/email inquiries people have........
We always talk them off the ledge gently ( for example, I've stopped using the term "you're bat$hit crazy if you believe it's a diamond")

What could it be? Tests diamond on tester, with the measurements given and weight, doesn't scratch, and not sapphire. (No doubling of facets) Not coated either, because coating would have come off also.
 
If the person needs the money that is their problem, not yours. If you are paying money for a supposedly natural diamond, there's no way to guarantee it is real without a lab cert (unless it is obvious in pictures) although i am 99.9% certain it is not real

just google how much they cost and ask yourself if what they expect it is worth is commensurate

if this was real, they would not be selling it this way. they'd be dealing with a professional due to the sheer dollar amount involved

are you in the market for a multi-million dollar diamond?

unfortunately i believe you are getting scammed, whether they (or you) realize it or not
 
It could be any of the things I mentioned in my previous comment, Purple CZ, purple lab spinel, purple glass, purple amethyst (natural, or lab), purple anything - other than mined diamond.
What could it be? Tests diamond on tester, with the measurements given and weight, doesn't scratch, and not sapphire. (No doubling of facets) Not coated either, because coating would have come off also.
 
I'd bet any of my jewelry that it's not a mined diamond (if a diamond at all). Purple CZ, purple lab spinel, purple glass, purple amethyst (natural, or lab), purple anything - other than mined diamond. I don't think I've ever seen a vivid purple lab diamond, either.

Those stones you list can all be scratched by a tungsten scriber. This one does not scratch
 
There's no reason I would believe their claim that this stone doesn't scratch. I don't know what they're using to test it. I have no reason to believe anything they say. I have no reason to believe they aren't using a pencil and calling it a tungsten scriber.

They're waving a giant red flag at you. Nobody here is out to get you. I strongly believe they are.
 
"supposed" being the opportune word of the day!

If it truly WAS what they were saying it was [or what they believe it to be] it would be certified out the wazoo, because it would be a worth a fortune. I'm not buying anything they're saying. Everyone has access to the internet. Anyone can google "purple diamond" and see pricing and know, it would be through the roof. And even if they are asking xxxxx amount of dollars, there should be a bare minimum of GIA certification with it along with a laser inscribed serial number. This isn't just some random family piece you would sell at a flea market.

IMHO

I would be sceptical even if GIA certified. Unless me, myself and I had it certified, I would be certain.
 
you say you are not seeing the diamond yourself, which means you arent testing it either. nor has a professional.

why are you so confident in a DIY test done by a complete stranger who supposedly needs money (so presumably is motivated to sell)?

this could also be moissanite or even lab-made diamond if they are doing the test properly - which i doubt they are

if you want to refuse to accept the reality that this is almost certainly not a natural diamond i don't know what else anyone can add
 
There's no reason I would believe their claim that this stone doesn't scratch. I don't know what they're using to test it. I have no reason to believe anything they say. I have no reason to believe they aren't using a pencil and calling it a tungsten scriber.

They're waving a giant red flag at you. Nobody here is out to get you. I strongly believe they are.

I scratched the stone. Not them. I took a tungsten scriber and tried to scratch my diamond, to show them diamonds don't scratch. I asked them to scratch it, and they replied for me to do it. I warned them that it could be some other nice stone and it could scratch. They said to do the test. "I" looked at it, "I" scratched it, "I" measured it and weighed it. I tested with diamond tester. I don't know if this would work for colored diamonds, but it was positive. But the measurements and weight say it bit heavy.
 
you say you are not seeing the diamond yourself, which means you arent testing it either. nor has a professional.

why are you so confident in a DIY test done by a complete stranger who supposedly needs money (so presumably is motivated to sell)?

this could also be moissanite or even lab-made diamond if they are doing the test properly - which i doubt they are

if you want to refuse to accept the reality that this is almost certainly not a natural diamond i don't know what else anyone can add

I haven't seen it in the light of day. I did all the testing. I can identify positively diamonds from moissanites, from sapphires. (White diamonds) I wonder if anyone has read my original post. The measurements , the weight.
 
I get what you are saying and maybe a jeweler will come along and answer your specific technical questions. I would like to know the answers to them too.

However, I don't think you can tell with enough certainty based on any type of amateur testing. For ex. a lab created fancy colored diamond would test exactly the same as a mined diamond with a diamond tester and scratch test and so on but would be worth only a small fraction of a similar mined diamond.

There are many other variables as well. So, then it comes back to what you stated yourself above. You would need to send it to GIA or other reputable lab yourself to get the answer you are seeking with any degree of certainty.

Good luck with it.
 
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