Any idea what the cost per carat is for Pariba

[MJO]

Hi Ferre,

In real life Paraiba''s look nothing like Blue Topaz. They have a much different look. The stone on Judi611 is very nice but not THE BEST color but is great for the price. The best 1/2 carat stone I''ve seen I bought that cost me $5,000. I was asked to take a picture of it but have to get a new disk for my camera. It''s a Sony digital that uses small cd disks and my kids scratched the last one I had. I''ll have to buy more.

Regards,
Maurice

 

[strmrdr]

How does it look compared to zircon of simular color?
Iv seen very few windex blue ones but the other colors are in the range that zircon is common in.

 

[MJO]

Date: 10/30/2005 3:46:49 PM
Author: strmrdr
How does it look compared to zircon of simular color?
Iv seen very few windex blue ones but the other colors are in the range that zircon is common in.

Blue zircon also ranges alot in color and yes it is similar in color to paraiba colors. There is even a find of Apatite that is windex blue top neon green blue. The .45ct paraiba (if I remember correctly) is similar in color to the best of the blue range in blue zircon it is very clean but just doesn''t have as much of an internal glow as the best paraiba''s I''ve seen. That said there are not many of THE BEST paraiba out there since most are sold to collectors as soon as they come out of the ground and are cut. THE BEST don''t often make it to a wholesaler these days and are only available when someone parts with it just like all Rare stones. On a scale of one to 10 I would give this stone a 7-8 with the 1st stone pictured by Ferre a 2-3 and THE BEST a 10.

Regards,
Maurice

 

[strmrdr]

thanks, what gets me about colored stone collectors is that at times they pay outragous prices for a color in one kind of stone that they can find the same or a ton better color in another.
It is strange to me.

 

[MJO]

Date: 10/30/2005 9:19:13 PM
Author: strmrdr
thanks, what gets me about colored stone collectors is that at times they pay outragous prices for a color in one kind of stone that they can find the same or a ton better color in another.
It is strange to me.

Why to some people buy a Rolex watch and some a timex? They both are good looking. They both tell time. As a matter of fact the timex ussually is more accurate. It''s all the way you perceive value.

Regards,
Maurice

 

[strmrdr]

dont get me wrong, whatever floats someones boat its kewl with me.
Dont think its wrong,,, just dont get it and likely never will :}
then again i love synthetic sapphires and rubies so what do i know :}

 

[MissAva]

Date: 10/30/2005 10:00:07 PM
Author: MJO

Date: 10/30/2005 9:19:13 PM
Author: strmrdr
thanks, what gets me about colored stone collectors is that at times they pay outragous prices for a color in one kind of stone that they can find the same or a ton better color in another.
It is strange to me.

Why to some people buy a Rolex watch and some a timex? They both are good looking. They both tell time. As a matter of fact the timex ussually is more accurate. It''s all the way you perceive value.

Regards,
Maurice

And then the really clever ones buy a Breitling.

I would say people buy what appeals to them, not only how you perceive value, but how you wish to be perceived. Some would not care to own something they consider false.

 

[MJO]

Hi Matatora,

Personally I wear a timex . I tend to lose watches and don''t want to lose something expensive. I have not and will not buy costume jewelery. Since I was 15 years old (over the last 30 years) I only bought gold with real stones for my girlfreinds and now my wife and daughter. They may have been diamond chips or amethyst but they were natural. I admire natural beauty. If they want costume jewelery they have to buy it themselves.

Regards,
Maurice

 

[MJO]

I found a picture of a windex blue paraiba tourmaline crystal

Maurice

 

[Kaleigh]

I just got the Tiffany holiday catalog, and yes I know Tiff''s is way over priced, but their Paraiba tourmaline ring is listed at.....$127,000.00. It doesn''t list the carart weight, but sure is a pretty blue. From the pic it looks to be about 6-7 carats. It has traps on the sides. Holy moly

 

[MJO]

Date: 10/31/2005 8:22:57 PM
Author: kaleigh
I just got the Tiffany holiday catalog, and yes I know Tiff''s is way over priced, but their Paraiba tourmaline ring is listed at.....$127,000.00. It doesn''t list the carart weight, but sure is a pretty blue. From the pic it looks to be about 6-7 carats. It has traps on the sides. Holy moly

kaleigh,

I don''t get the catalog. Is it on line anywhere? That must be a good looking ring.

Maurice

 

[Richard M.]

Date: 10/26/2005 9:37:59 PM
Author: widget
Well, I don''t know if these prices are typical...Not exactly giving them away, are they?

Obviously stones coming out of Brazil go for a premium.

Yummy, though!


widget

I want a piece of that market! I don''t know whether this Namibian tourmaline has copper, but it certainly is similar to the colors you posted. Tourmaline of this type, sold simply as blue-green tourmaline -- which I mentioned in an earlier post -- is available for much less than so-called Nigerian "Paraiba." The flaw in this stone photographs much worse than the reality. I''m posting the image for educational purposes only.

I believe consumers should be very wary about paying ultra-high prices for "Paraiba." The original stuff from the 80s was awesome and probably worth the price levels it achieved. I''m not sure a lot of today''s "Paraiba" is worth anything close to the prices demanded because similar stones from less ''glitzy'' locations are sold for less. Just my opinion.

 

[fatafelice]

http://cgi.ebay.com/AGTA-CERTIFIED-Brazillian-Paraiba-Tourmaline-3-16-cts_W0QQitemZ5052297329QQcategoryZ10283QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Note: Is paraiba usually heated?

 

[Richard M.]

Date: 11/14/2005 8:33:10 PM
Author: fatafelice
Note: Is paraiba usually heated?

Yes, always, according to my research. Read more HERE

Richard M.

 

[valeria101]

Date: 11/1/2005 10:58:53 PM
Author: Richard M.


I believe consumers should be very wary about paying ultra-high prices for ''Paraiba.'' The original stuff from the 80s was awesome and probably worth the price levels it achieved. I''m not sure a lot of today''s ''Paraiba'' is worth anything close to the prices demanded because similar stones from less ''glitzy'' locations are sold for less. Just my opinion.

True enough - as much as I can tell.

I know that there have been several tourmaline finds reputed to be paraiba-like in some ways: chemistry or hue ...

But is that intense turquoise blue available from any other source than the intial find?

 

[MJO]

Date: 11/14/2005 9:02:09 PM
Author: valeria101

Date: 11/1/2005 10:58:53 PM
Author: Richard M.


I believe consumers should be very wary about paying ultra-high prices for ''Paraiba.'' The original stuff from the 80s was awesome and probably worth the price levels it achieved. I''m not sure a lot of today''s ''Paraiba'' is worth anything close to the prices demanded because similar stones from less ''glitzy'' locations are sold for less. Just my opinion.

True enough - as much as I can tell.

I know that there have been several tourmaline finds reputed to be paraiba-like in some ways: chemistry or hue ...

But is that intense turquoise blue available from any other source than the intial find?

Ana,

No I haven''t seen that original top color in any other stone.. Also there are rare ocasions were the stones are unheated.

Regards,
Maurice

 

[Richard M.]

Date: 11/14/2005 9:02:09 PM
Author: valeria101

Date: 11/1/2005 10:58:53 PM


I know that there have been several tourmaline finds reputed to be paraiba-like in some ways: chemistry or hue ...But is that intense turquoise blue available from any other source than the intial find?

Not the top quality material, at least from what I''ve seen. My comment had to do with some of the lower-end colors currently called "Paraiba" being sold at very high prices. Some of those aren''t significantly different (in my opinion) from the fine non-cuprous blue-greens found at Neu Schwaben, Namibia, and a few other locations. I''ve seen quite a bit of Nigerian "Paraiba" and have yet to encounter any stones that begin to compare with top gems from Brazil -- but your quote from Souren Melikian applies here. I''ve seen what I''ve seen, and that''s quite a bit. But I certainly haven''t seen it all.

Richard M.

 

[valeria101]

Date: 11/14/2005 11:50:55 PM
Author: Richard M.

Date: 11/14/2005 9:02:09 PM
Author: valeria101

My comment had to do with some of the lower-end colors currently called 'Paraiba' being sold at very high prices. Some of those aren't significantly different (in my opinion) from the fine non-cuprous blue-greens found at Neu Schwaben, Namibia, and a few other locations.

Yes... and that practice does not feel good at all because prices are so inconsistent someone is obviously getting the short end of the stick paying for value that is not recognized across the street

If at least there were new finds of the valuable type, it would be the usual 'name game' of pricing by origin. Your answers have just given me reason to believe my own eyes.