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Quite right, AGBF. It''s getting more and more like a soap opera, don''t you think?

To be honest, no-one here in the UK seems to be particularly bothered about what''s going on with the Royal wedding. In a way, it''s sad.
 
Here is a story about the "extended family" (in the United States we would call this a "blended family") created by the marriage of the Prince of Wales and Mrs. Parker-Bowles. The story seems balanced in that it details Prince William having pushed tissues under the bathroom door while his mother sobbed inside during his parents'' marriage and Prince Harry''s recent reluctance to accept Mrs. Parker-Bowles. It also shows the couple out with the Prince''s sons and mentions Prince Harry being seen to kiss Mrs. Parker-Bowles good-bye after a polo match.

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Deborah
 
Here is a story about the "extended family" (in the United States we would call this a "blended family") created by the marriage of the Prince of Wales and Mrs. Parker-Bowles. The story seems balanced in that it details Prince William having pushed tissues under the bathroom door while his mother sobbed inside during his parents' marriage and Prince Harry's recent reluctance to accept Mrs. Parker-Bowles. It also shows the couple out with the Prince's sons and mentions Prince Harry being seen to kiss Mrs. Parker-Bowles goodbye after a polo match.

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Deborah
 
Here are some excerpts from the story:

"The recent newspaper report that Prince Charles had decided to set up a £1-million trust fund for Camilla Parker Bowles's son Tom, 30, and her daughter Laura, 26, was perhaps the first clue that they were to become part of the royal family.

Charles will gain a stepson and daughter (Tom is already his godson), while Camilla will of course become stepmother to Prince Harry and Prince William, an idea that once seemed un-thinkable. Now it's about to become a reality.

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William was ten years old and Harry only eight when the ‘War of the Waleses’ ended with Charles and Diana's announcement that they had decided to separate, in December 1992.
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Now almost eight more years have passed.

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William is reported to have told his father that he approves of his relationship with Camilla. “Whatever makes you happy,” he allegedly said.

Harry, meanwhile, has been anxious that no-one should try to take his mother's place. Camilla has always scrupulously avoided doing that. She has never interfered in the lives of Charles's sons, offered them advice or tried in any way to “mother” them. But the fact that she has taken Diana’s place at his father's side has not exactly delighted Harry, according to several royal sources. Still, he has learnt to accept her, and last summer was even seen kissing her goodbye at the end of a polo match in Gloucestershire."

Deborah
 
This replica of Camilla's ring is for sale on eBay. It claims to be something special with only 50 being made. The description says, "the rings are being made to a traditional design by Wartski, a privately owned jewellery company based in London. Established in 1865, Wartski has held the Royal Warrant to HRH The Prince of Wales since 1979. It is a timeless classic." It *IS*, however, a timeless CZ and sterling silver classic!!!


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i love silver, and as a replica, it is lovely......CZ or not. many people like to live out the fantasy and if this helps, then go for it. it was a treat to see what the ring looked like up close!

peace,, movie zombie
 
Speaking of copies... this one is a smaller version made by the same maker and most likely contemporary.

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I loved this article in "Scotland on Sunday" by Andrew Roberts.

"Charm and modesty: crucial weapons in disarming Camilla's critics"


Here are some excerpts:


"ON Wednesday, September 6, 2016 - only 11 years from now - Queen Elizabeth II will beat Queen Victoria’s record for time spent on the British throne. Given her mother’s hardy Bowes-Lyon longevity there is no reason why, the present queen, who will be 90 by then, should not achieve this.

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I believe that long before then, the present near vilification of Mrs Parker Bowles seen and heard on endless television and radio programmes last week will have not just abated but actually been reversed. We shall see that far from being some demonic home-breaker, Camilla Parker Bowles is in fact a warm, good-humoured, charming and bright woman ideally suited to the heavy task before her.


When the time comes, people will be shocked at the mean-spirited refusal of the Palace authorities to let her assume equal rank and status as her husband, as British law has always hitherto dictated.


Whenever I meet Mrs Parker Bowles - often at book launches - I am struck by the fact that she has actually read the book being celebrated, which is surprisingly unusual on such occasions. Moreover she is always the same whether you meet her at private dinner parties, weddings or big public occasions: she has absolutely no ‘airs’ to her. Her conversation is never dull, never of that defensive quality that so many celebrities and politicians adopt in the presence of people who might quote (or just as likely misquote) them. She also has an engaging smile that might not have Princess Diana’s Hollywood dazzle to it, but has far more sincerity behind it. This, you realise, is a real woman - small wonder Prince Charles has worshipped her for more than three decades.


She is of a recognisable type of no-nonsense British country-women whose charm lies in their modesty and lack of guile. Lunching with her father, Major Bruce Shand, recently, I remarked on the fact that his slim autobiography about his wartime service, Previous Engagements, entirely omitted the surely rather salient fact that he had won the Military Cross not once but twice. He immediately but courteously changed the subject.

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Several factors will ensure that the future HRH the Duchess of Cornwall will not remain unpopular forever. The first is that it will soon be generally seen that she can carry herself with dignity. Alone of the three members of the ‘three-person marriage’, Camilla Parker Bowles never gave an interview to Martin Bashir, Jonathan Dimbleby or anybody else. And aside from her work for the National Osteoporosis Society, she does not talk publicly at all, rather like the late Queen Mother. This has allowed her to retain a sense of privacy and dignity - even mystique - that hopefully the Palace will allow her to continue.

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Camilla Parker Bowles is far more than merely a Mrs Simpson who made it, she is a powerful and wholly positive influence on a complicated man. She alone can soothe his - by all accounts hot - temper, rather in the way the late Queen Mother was able to do for George VI’s ‘gnashes’.

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I am the only person saying it now, but my prediction will be vindicated sooner or later: one day we will all be proud of Her Majesty Queen Camilla."
 
Good news for everyone who wants a replica of Camilla's ring, but doesn't want a CZ set in sterling silver!

"ASDA, a British retail store that's a subsidiary of WalMart, will sell replicas of the platinum and diamond ring for £19, or about $36 US, starting on April 8th, the day Charles and Camilla will wed. The rings will be made from sterling silver and cubic zirconias and the company plans to sell only 1,000 of them.

ASDA also announced plans to sell a platinum and diamond replica for £30,000. That version will contain diamonds weighing a total of 3 carats. Camilla's vintage engagement ring, said to have been owned by the late Queen Mother, reportedly contains 8 carats of diamonds."

Camilla's Ring in Platinum and Diamonds
 
These are excerpts from a short article in the "Sunday Mirror". I do not know if what it reports is true. It seems odd to me.

"THE man who famously 'laid down his wife for King and country' is to be rewarded with an invite to the Royal wedding.

Andrew Parker Bowles, ex-husband of Camilla, is to get an invitation to the ceremony when she marries Prince Charles at Windsor Guildhall on April 8.

The former Army officer - who turned a blind eye to the couple's 20-year affair - has been asked along at the insistence of the Queen.

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His invitation will be seen as a reward for never having spoken publicly about his famously open marriage.

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personally, i''d rather have the CZ in silver than give a dime to even a subsidiary of walmart.....

but i''m enjoying the ongoing articles re how history will vindicate camilla.

peace, movie zombie
 
Well, here is some more grist for the mill!

Here is an excerpt from a very good article written by a journalist/doctoral candidate. She is critical of the entire situation that led to Charles' marriage of convenience and to adultery. Here she writes of the young Camilla and Charles:


"Why they did not marry then is the enduring question. Had he made the choice then, Diana Spencer might still be leading the life she was born to - a minor aristocrat married to another of that breed, driving children to boarding schools and skiing in Austria. Of course her tragedy was the making of her. Not only did her position give her an entrée into high-profile charity work, but it also ensured instant canonization upon her death. Suffering often creates character, and there is no doubt that Diana Spencer suffered hugely in her marriage to the emotionally stunted Prince of Wales. Yet who would choose be a dead icon rather than a living woman?

Unwilling - or more likely, forbidden - to marry Camilla when they were both young and free, Charles was required by the institution that his family embodies to marry someone. So in a scenario straight from the 14th century, the prince set about to find himself a suitable princess, all the while keeping up a relationship with the now married Parker Bowles. Parker Bowles didn't seem to mind. She is, after all, the one said to have started the ball rolling in the first place by remarking to Charles, "My great-grandmother was your great-great-grandfather's mistress, so how about it?"

This seems to be the crux of the royal sympathizers' argument: Camilla remained faithful to her one true love despite being married to someone else. More to the point, her husband has never uttered a public word in condemnation of the situation that inevitably led to their divorce.

In the 21st century, as opposed to the 14th, the human cost of the customary aristocratic disregard of ordinary moral boundaries is far from negligible. In ordinary life, the perpetrators of such alliances would stand little chance of becoming the titular head of the Church of England, nor would the excuses be made for ordinary citizens that have been made for Charles and his circle of willing enablers."



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''Why they did not marry then is the enduring question"

The answer is one word - virginity (or at least the credible appearance thereof)

A woman who starts a conversation with "My grandmother was your grandfather''s mistress - how about it?" is not going to be the person to provide England with an unquestioned heir to the throne.

Charles was looking for the proverbial needle in the haystack, a virgin in the aristocracy of marriagable age.

If he had not been held to that standard Camilla would probably have been in the running back in 1980.
 
Now they're saying Camilla COULD be Queen. It may happen automatically on the event Charles' coronation. Duchess of Cornwall would be a temporary title.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7257427/
 
charles wanted a virgin?! more likely the monarchy wanted a vigin and pressured charles to NOT marry camilla. it is so naive to think that he married diana out of romance. in retrospect, it would appear it was more likely she was breeding stock to fuel the monarchy. and how that must have hurt to realize after being wed that charles loved another woman. rather than accept the fact that she had been young and naive, she blamed camilla for breaking up her marriage to charles. actually, the blame should lie on charles for marrying a woman he didn''t love. but he''s not the first to do so....in or out of the monarchy.

peace, movie zombie
 
Prince William and Tom Parker-Bowles will be the witnesses at the marriage of Prince Charles and Camilla Parker-Bowles.

"Prince William will be a witness at his father's wedding to Camilla Parker Bowles, alongside the bride's son Tom, royal officials announced yesterday. Prince Charles's younger son Prince Harry, Charles's three siblings - Prince Andrew, Prince Edward and Princess Anne - and Edward's wife Sophie also will attend the April 8 civil ceremony at Windsor town hall."

Prince William to be a Witness
 
Although I sincerely pitied the late Princess of Wales, I have grown increasingly fond of Camilla Parker-Bowles. I think the English people have been very blind to her good qualities. The author of the article excerpted here seems to share my point of view.

"She has had bread rolls thrown at her, been called a 'Rottweiler', 'Cowmilla' or 'Duchess Dracula' - and has smiled through it all.

Camilla Parker Bowles, soon to be the wife of Prince Charles and the second most senior woman at the British court, has endured her share of humiliation and display of public disaffection.

And yet, in the 35 years she has been acquainted with the heir to the British throne, hardly anyone has ever heard her voice.

She might bring great influence to bear on the future king
Camilla, 57, is portrayed as the solid, country-loving horsewoman, happy to keep a discreet silence and stay out of the limelight.

While behind the scenes she might bring great influence to bear on the future king, no one outside her most intimate circle would ever know.
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For Charles, Camilla has all the qualities he so sorely missed in his first wife.

Unlike Princess Diana, Camilla does not seek, or attract, the limelight. She does not own 600 pairs of shoes or 400 hats, and rather than seeing herself in a competing role, she is there to support and console the man she calls 'Charlie'.

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While some royal-watchers believe that Camilla will never win the hearts of the British people, others suggest that she might have a positive effect on the court after decades of turmoil and scandal.

'She will probably be the most sensible person to join the inner circle of the royal family in the past 20 years', said one."



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I quite agree!
 
This article is in today's, "The New York Times".

The Once and Future Camilla

Here are some excerpts:

"THE bride wore tweed. Or at least you get the feeling that she would, if she could.

Only the most hard-hearted could fail to sympathize, if even a teeny bit, with Camilla Parker Bowles as the days dwindle before her wedding to Prince Charles on Friday. Comparisons with Diana, Princess of Wales, which linger deep in the British psyche, have come inevitably to the forefront. And in the fashion arena Mrs. Parker Bowles has often seemed defenseless.


A woman who usually looks as if she would be more comfortable walking through fields in mud-spattered Wellington boots than trussed into an evening gown or bejeweled stiletto heels, Mrs. Parker Bowles has endured the scorching public eye and the jabs of style critics for years.
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The self-appointed arbiter known as Mr. Blackwell, keeper of the annual worst-dressed list, awarded Mrs. Parker Bowles the No. 8 ranking in 2001, adding helpfully that she "packs the stylistic punch of a Yorkshire pudding."

It would be unfair, unkind and even superficial, however, to dismiss the future Duchess of Cornwall's sense of style as nonexistent. Instead, Mrs. Parker Bowles's simple tailored suits and hunting-jacket-plus-jodhpurs look is that of the quintessential upper-crust British woman, her peers say.
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This type of English countrywoman values looking "practical and tidy" above all else, Ms. Higginson noted. That's because she often has more important things on her mind than what's in Vogue this month: caring for her horses, gardening or taking her dogs for a walk. Such women are often great animal lovers, Ms. Higginson said: "Their Labradors and their horses are up there with their husband and their children in their affections."


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There's no direct comparison to Mrs. Parker Bowles and her ilk in the United States. Growing up and growing older with money in America usually translates into a perfectly coiffed, well-toned and ultra-groomed appearance. Think of the older models in a Ralph Lauren ad."
 
The wedding of Camilla and Charles has been postponed due to the death of the Pope.

Royal Wedding Postponed

Charles (the Prince of Wales) will be attending the Pope's funeral.

"Clarence House said the prince, but not Mrs Parker Bowles, would represent the Queen at the funeral in Rome.
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Clarence House said the postponement of the ceremony was 'a mark of respect' for the pontiff."

Deborah
 
Camilla Parker-Bowles will be Queen if Prince Charles ever becomes King, whether or not she uses the title, and as soon as she marries him she will become the Princess of Wales, whether or not she uses *THAT title. Here is an excerpt from the article below:

"There is nothing in law to stop Camilla Parker Bowles from calling herself the Princess of Wales after her marriage to Prince Charles on Friday, the Government will confirm tomorrow.

By law, she would be entitled to adopt any of her husband's long list of titles, and an Act of Parliament would be needed to prevent her....

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'She will be the Princess of Wales, but she will not be using the title,' a spokeswoman for the Constitutional Affairs department said."

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Deborah
 
Because they've had to postpone the wedding, all the memorabilia is now marked with the wrong date! They were saying that if you can get your hands on any of it, it may go up in value because of the incorrect date and the fact that there's so little stuff available anyway. I must say I'm tempted to get the Asda silver ring, if only as a keepsake of the world's worst organised wedding.
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Here is yet another (to me, fascinating) article about the kind of life to which Camilla Parker-Bowles was bred versus the royal life into which she will be shoved. If I were she I would be very glad I was, at last, to marry the man I loved. On the other hand, I would prefer to see the man I love when we had time to be together...NOT when he had to attend a church service or a dinner for some government officials. That would be a life I would truly, truly hate!

Here are some excerpts from the article:

"As Camilla Parker Bowles unfurls her wedding hosiery this Saturday, she's bound to think back to her old life, the life she was bred for: children, horses, dogs and arranging the church flowers on the second Friday in every month.
She will remember, as she submits to her bridal manicure, how things like nail varnish barely figured in the old days. Nail varnish was what you used for stopping ladders in your tights.

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For the old Camilla, a manicure began and ended with the prising out of earth from under the nails with the end of a metal nail file. You might need to do this after planting out geraniums around the taddle stones in front of the house but, otherwise, why bother? You'd only be plunging your hands into a bucket of warm bran mash the next morning.

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In her old life, Camilla would arrive back home late, flushed and sweating from a day's hunting. Due at a supper party two villages away with old friends (PLUs she would have said they were, People Like Us), she would wipe herself down with a wet flannel, but not before first wiping her horse down with a handful of dry straw and feeding the dogs. Off with the jodhpurs, on with the party dress - the old steadfast from the boutique in Hungerford, with the hem half down - a flick of the mascara wand and off she went, trailing cigarette smoke and an old cashmere wrap.


No nonsense, no silly fuss. Camilla would stop only to pick up the evening clutch bag (contents: cigarettes, lighter, labrador's arthritis pills) on the way out of the door, quick glance in the hall mirror, wince, say 'I'll do', and off she would go in the Volvo with a sack of pony nuts in the back, pounding away at her hair as she drove, with a brush kept in the glove compartment along with a tin of saddle soap and some baler twine."


Has Camilla's dream come true - or does she harbour regrets?


Deborah
 
Another American woman seems to have reacted to the way Camilla Parker-Bowles has been treated much as I have :-). Some excerpts follow.

"Credit Charles, Camilla for endurance"

I am not, by genealogy or nationality, a follower of the British royal family. The last monarch who mattered to Americans was George III, and God knows he made a mess of things. Nevertheless, I find myself hooked on the thoroughly un-fairy tale wedding of Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles scheduled for Saturday. I am not quite so besotted that I’m buying the coffee cup, suitable for microwaving, bearing the congratulatory message. But I do have my eye on the refrigerator magnet.


I owe my fanfare to the uncommon couple in large measure to the British press. These Brits, at their beastly best, managed to transform Camilla from the “other woman” to the “older woman.”


Yes, I know, many Diana lovers will never forgive Camilla for Charles’ affection. At the height of the annus horibilis she was the femina horibila. There are those who threw buns at her at a supermarket, and there are those who will picket at her wedding.


But when Charles allegedly got down on bended knee and proposed, the press description of his fiancée made Diana’s pet name for her – “the Rottweiler” – seem complimentary. Scrutinized from her hair to her teeth to her waistline to her wardrobe, she was declared “frumpy,” “dowdy,” and the “jellied eel” to Diana’s “lobster thermidor.”


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It was as if Charles had upset the natural order of things, whereby every Donald Trump must have his trophy wife. It was if the Prince Charming had chosen the ugly stepsister as his second wife. What woman of a certain age couldn’t side with the un-bowed and un-Botoxed object of his affection?


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But what makes me tip my republican – small r – hat to the couple anyway is their endurance. The real trophy here, if you will allow it, is tenacity in, um, love.


The Daily Star headlined its announcement, “Boring Old Gits to Wed.” An Australian writer said Charles and Camilla raised “the ewww factor. … It’s like catching your parents pashing.” What they forgot is the grit in the gits and the undeniable passion in the pashers.


In just the past few weeks, this couple has been subject to polls taken on whether they should marry or whether Camilla should be called queen. A bishop actually told Charles to make a public apology to Camilla’s husband.


The pair who have endured it call each other “devoted old bags.” The devotion of the old bags has managed to overwhelm the burden of the old baggage. Not bad.

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Ellen Goodman is a Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist for the Boston Globe and can be contacted at [email protected].


http://www.thenewstribune.com/opinion/columnists/story/4749574p-4378853c.html

Deborah
 
Well, it''s done! What does everybody think?

I think the Dutchess of Cornwall looked absolutely lovely...quite beautiful, in fact. And Prince Charles looked truly truly happy...

Blessings to them...

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I think Camilla looked truly lovely and I think Price Charles looked like he was just beaming. My best wishes for them, they''ve waited a long time for this.
 
I watched a little - so nice to see them smiling obviously very much in love.

I personally watched just to see the display of hats that always come out at British weddings. If I still lived in the UK my diamond fund would probably have gone to hats!
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Best wishes to them both - even the British tabloids were kind to them today!
 
Yes the hats that the British wear are very unusual. I think people in the UK tend towards very formal attire for weddings.
 
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I personally watched just to see the display of hats that always come out at British weddings. If I still lived in the UK my diamond fund would probably have gone to hats!
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I agree...aren't those hats a trip? That's one British tradition I'm glad we didn't bring with us to the colonies!
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I thought her dress was stunning. Some young brides could take a lesson from her: less is more!

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